MOBO that support PCi-e 2.0 amd 45nm

mAJORgAMER · 11-04-2007, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by elitehacker

Well, they advertise P35 and X38 as compatible with "upcoming 45nm processors" so I guess if they change the 45nm processors a little bit, they will release a Bios revision for it. I still don't like the idea of buying in anticipation for something that has not been released yet.

Yhea that a good point. But maybe they have stop working on it by now i dont know. Anyway, my priority is to get a mobo whit pci-e 2.0 enable for the upcoming 9000 serie GPU. So this is one of the few available right now.

PC eye · 11-04-2007, 07:25 AM

At present there are some 9 8xxx series models available at newegg. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...CI+Express+2.0

One concern when the 9800s do come out is that they have far better driver support then. Lately some who rushed for 8800s are now in the same boat I was with a new DX10 compatible ATI model as far as driver problems. That's why I remind people that the software side always takes longer then hardware side. Long Horn(Vista) is a prime example of that one!

nexolus · 11-04-2007, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by PC eye

And if the board won't support a new line of cards later then what? You build a system around what a board will support often leaving some room for later upgrade/expansion when possible. But last year saw AM2 models and Intel quad cores weren't out yet. When going to upgrade you do it in the largest increment to avoid the need for fast swapouts in a short period of time.

uh, PCIe 1.1 came out like 5 years ago. I'm pretty sure all the new cards that will be coming out for a while will be supported by pci2.0

PC eye · 11-05-2007, 01:41 AM

PCI-E 4x has only been around and soon replaced by PCI-E 16x for about 3yrs. or so while 2.0 is just now being seen. The link here shows the 9 models that newegg is presently carrying. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...CI+Express+2.0

At present the only PCI-E 2.0 SLI board found at newegg is the Asus Inetl model seen at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131218

nexolus · 11-05-2007, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by PC eye

PCI-E 4x has only been around and soon replaced by PCI-E 16x for about 3yrs. or so while 2.0 is just now being seen. The link here shows the 9 models that newegg is presently carrying. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...CI+Express+2.0

At present the only PCI-E 2.0 SLI board found at newegg is the Asus Inetl model seen at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131218

That board supports crossfire but it doesn't support SLI as far as I know. And that's not the only one that supports pcie2.0, all of these do: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...name=Intel+X38

If it's x38, it supports 2.0

PC eye · 11-05-2007, 04:47 AM

You'll have to excuse the typo there.

That was the only Crossfire model found.

I guess I'm not in any rush for either SLI or Crossfire adding a second HD 2600XT card in. I was hoping AMD would have had their own quad models out by the time the new build was in progress here. Now apparently I will be looking at PCI-E 3.0 on the next build when they do finally come out.

StrangleHold · 11-05-2007, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PC eye

PCI-E 4x has only been around and soon replaced by PCI-E 16x for about 3yrs.

When PCIe 1.0 was released in 2002 is wasnt just X4. It had 1X-2X-4X-8X-12X and 16X lanes slots. Having 2X-4X-8X and 12X lanes didnt catch on that well and most boards have 1X and 16X lanes slots but some boards still have X4 and X8 lane slots. A 12X lane slot just never caught on.

PC eye · 11-06-2007, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by StrangleHold

When PCIe 1.0 was released in 2002 is wasnt just X4. It had 1X-2X-4X-8X-12X and 16X lanes slots. Having 2X-4X-8X and 12X lanes didnt catch on that well and most boards have 1X and 16X lanes slots but some boards still have X4 and X8 lane slots. A 12X lane slot just never caught on.

Did you say 2002?

PCI Express, officially abbreviated as PCI-E or PCIe, is a computer expansion card interface format introduced by Intel in 2004. It was designed to replace the general purpose PCI expansion bus, the high end PCI-X bus and the AGP graphics card interface. Unlike previous PC expansion interfaces rather than being a bus it is structured around point to point full duplex serial links called lanes. In PCIe 1.1 (the most common version as of 2007) each lane carries 250 MB/s in each direction. PCIe 2.0 doubles this and PCIe 3.0 doubles it again.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express

PCI Express Technology

Download PDF (533)February 2004

Jim Brewer, Dell Business and Technology Development
Joe Sekel, Dell Server Architecture and Technology

Formerly known as 3GIO, PCI Express is the open standards- based successor to PCI and its variants for server- and client-system I/O interconnects. Unlike PCI and PCI-X, which are based on 32- and 64-bit parallel buses, PCI Express uses high-speed serial link technology similar to that found in Gigabit1 Ethernet, Serial ATA (SATA), and Serial-Attached SCSI (SAS). PCI Express reflects an industry trend to replace legacy shared parallel buses with high-speed point-to-point serial buses. http://www.dell.com/content/topics/g...us&l=en&s=corp

PCI (Peripheral Component Interconnect) Express is a scalable I/O (Input/Output) serial bus technology set to replace parallel PCI bus which came standard on motherboards manufactured from the early 1990s through 2004. In the latter part of 2004 PCI Express slots began appearing alongside standard slots, starting a gradual transition. http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-pci-express.htm

StrangleHold · 11-06-2007, 02:49 AM

Yea I said 2002, PCIe was approved as a standard in July 2002 and nothing about your post had anything to do with you saying PCIe was just X4 moving on to X16 later and it wasnt.

http://www.pcisig.com/news_room/PCI_Family_History.pdf

PCI Express

Originally known as 3rd Generation I/O (3GIO), PCI Express, or PCIe, was approved as a standard on July 2002 and is a computer bus found in computers. PCI Express is designed to replace PCI and AGP and is available in several different formats: x1, x2, x4, x8, x12, x16 and x32

PC eye · 11-06-2007, 05:28 AM

The first boards seeing PCI-E 1x and then 4x were first seen in 2004. 12x would never have worked out since everything doubles with each step up. 1x goes to 2x to 4x to 8x and then onto 16x which saw the largest increment from 1x to 4x to 16x.

This is what you were missing there. Once a standard is accepted it still takes a few years before being seen on the market since that has to be then included in new board designs. Work on Long Horn started around that time as well but we know how MS was ssslowww

there taking forever to see Vista come out(and now people don't want it?

).

11-04-2007, 07:25 AM	#22 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 20,474	At present there are some 9 8xxx series models available at newegg. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...CI+Express+2.0 One concern when the 9800s do come out is that they have far better driver support then. Lately some who rushed for 8800s are now in the same boat I was with a new DX10 compatible ATI model as far as driver problems. That's why I remind people that the software side always takes longer then hardware side. Long Horn(Vista) is a prime example of that one! __________________ What The Data Miners Are Digging Up About You http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Tec...6355541&page=1 High Tech gifts for the Holidays under $150 http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/GadgetGuide/

11-05-2007, 01:41 AM	#24 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 20,474	PCI-E 4x has only been around and soon replaced by PCI-E 16x for about 3yrs. or so while 2.0 is just now being seen. The link here shows the 9 models that newegg is presently carrying. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...CI+Express+2.0 At present the only PCI-E 2.0 SLI board found at newegg is the Asus Inetl model seen at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131218 __________________ What The Data Miners Are Digging Up About You http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Tec...6355541&page=1 High Tech gifts for the Holidays under $150 http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/GadgetGuide/

11-05-2007, 04:47 AM	#26 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 20,474	You'll have to excuse the typo there. That was the only Crossfire model found. I guess I'm not in any rush for either SLI or Crossfire adding a second HD 2600XT card in. I was hoping AMD would have had their own quad models out by the time the new build was in progress here. Now apparently I will be looking at PCI-E 3.0 on the next build when they do finally come out. __________________ What The Data Miners Are Digging Up About You http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Tec...6355541&page=1 High Tech gifts for the Holidays under $150 http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/GadgetGuide/

11-06-2007, 02:49 AM	#29 (permalink)
StrangleHold Diamond Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: And you think your safe! Posts: 8,139	Yea I said 2002, PCIe was approved as a standard in July 2002 and nothing about your post had anything to do with you saying PCIe was just X4 moving on to X16 later and it wasnt. http://www.pcisig.com/news_room/PCI_Family_History.pdf PCI Express Originally known as 3rd Generation I/O (3GIO), PCI Express, or PCIe, was approved as a standard on July 2002 and is a computer bus found in computers. PCI Express is designed to replace PCI and AGP and is available in several different formats: x1, x2, x4, x8, x12, x16 and x32 __________________ NZXT Apollo Phenom 8750BE 3.0ghz. Gigabyte GA MA770 DS3 G Skill DDR2 1066 4gb. PNY 8800GT/VD964 W/D RE2 Sata 3.0 500gb. Life's tough, hit them in the throat and move on. Last edited by StrangleHold; 11-06-2007 at 02:53 AM.

11-06-2007, 05:28 AM	#30 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 20,474	The first boards seeing PCI-E 1x and then 4x were first seen in 2004. 12x would never have worked out since everything doubles with each step up. 1x goes to 2x to 4x to 8x and then onto 16x which saw the largest increment from 1x to 4x to 16x. This is what you were missing there. Once a standard is accepted it still takes a few years before being seen on the market since that has to be then included in new board designs. Work on Long Horn started around that time as well but we know how MS was ssslowww there taking forever to see Vista come out(and now people don't want it? ). __________________ What The Data Miners Are Digging Up About You http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Tec...6355541&page=1 High Tech gifts for the Holidays under $150 http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/GadgetGuide/

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