RAM Mhz drop after upgrade....Please HELP!!!

dave_w · 11-25-2007, 09:06 AM

Sorry to jump in with no real useful data here, but isn't anyone wondering why the industry hasn't rehabbed the labelling system for RAM and mobo/RAM compatibility? Seems kind've silly that an educated consumer could do his research, make an informed purchase, and still not get it right the first time out.

At the very least, could the manufacturers keep an updated list of recommended RAM? I'm sick of checking out their websites and finding exactly the same list that's in the outdated print manual.

PC eye · 11-25-2007, 09:16 AM

I know that feeling well enough from trying to point what brand will work bets on what board. On one older build here two well known brands saw all kinds of errors while being defect free. Corsair is advertised at Asus while Kingston is seen in the recommended lists at Gigabyte and MSI. They pay for advertising space there.

Bertminator · 11-25-2007, 06:15 PM

One thing that's upsetting, is NCIX & TigerDirect have sales on PC 6400 1 Gb's ram for $29.00, yet my PC3200 Ram is still sitting at a premium price of $65.00 / 1 GB. ram. I don't get it, my system is about 3 years old and the ram is MORE expensive than the newer stuff

. If my ram were at $29.00, it would be a no brainer (my kind of purchase

).

...Bert

johnb35 · 11-26-2007, 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bertminator

One thing that's upsetting, is NCIX & TigerDirect have sales on PC 6400 1 Gb's ram for $29.00, yet my PC3200 Ram is still sitting at a premium price of $65.00 / 1 GB. ram. I don't get it, my system is about 3 years old and the ram is MORE expensive than the newer stuff

. If my ram were at $29.00, it would be a no brainer (my kind of purchase

).

...Bert

Older type of ram, as in your case, will be more expensive then the new type. PC133 and PC100 is even more expensive then regular DDR memory.

dave_w · 11-26-2007, 01:44 AM

Yup. Retailers take a big risk keeping older memory in stock, and manufacturers take an even bigger risk my making it. So to account for the risk, they mark it up pretty high. The fact that they only make a little at a time only makes it more expensive.

PC eye · 11-26-2007, 05:53 AM

In August I paid about $135 for a pair of 1gb DDR2 800 PC6400 dimms then. A pair of 2gb dimms by the same brand and type of performance then saw $329 now at $209. How many order PC100 or PC133 memory these days? Not many except to restore some old system somewhere. With DDR3 available the 2gb dims of DDR2 came down plus the time of year where sales are the highest is now being seen.

Bertminator · 11-29-2007, 05:57 AM

Ok, I checked my system, and all is up to date, one thing I noticed however, is the CPU is sitting almost always at 100%...with spikes up and down...usually steady around 100%. I have 630 ish Megs of ram in the system, and I NEVER had that spike that high for so long. What do you think the problem might be now?

PC eye · 11-29-2007, 07:12 AM

What are you using to see the cpu activity? The first thing would be to look at the processes tab in the task manager to see what is the most active there. That will give you an idea of what is probably hanging on you demanding cpu time. The initial spike when first opening up the chart there is normal as you see when the performance section is looked over. That's simply the cpu time request spike that disappears fast.

Bertminator · 11-29-2007, 11:02 PM

I know all about the processes, and how to shut them down. I did that, and my system is still spiking to 100%. Could it be that my power supply is hooked up wrong? I did remove it to test another computer a little while back. I'm pretty sure, everything is connected right, but maybe something got buggered up. I noticed a four-prong plug for the power supply that wasn't connected before, and I DID connect it. Could it be this little plug making my computer spike, as well as affecting my video playbacks? I find it hard to believe that this "little" plug could do this much damage. My MoBo layout says that it's called the "PWR_fan" Under the CPU Fan plugin.

What do you think?

johnb35 · 11-29-2007, 11:11 PM

Look in the processes tab and tell us what process or processes is using your cpu up. Also, what processor are you running right now? On all current processors you need the 4pin cpu plug connected in order for the computer to even boot.

11-25-2007, 09:16 AM	#12 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 20,278	I know that feeling well enough from trying to point what brand will work bets on what board. On one older build here two well known brands saw all kinds of errors while being defect free. Corsair is advertised at Asus while Kingston is seen in the recommended lists at Gigabyte and MSI. They pay for advertising space there. __________________ Turning the Tongue into a Device Controller http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Sma...ory?id=5647175 Is EBay going out of the Auction Business? http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=5626840&page=1

11-26-2007, 05:53 AM	#16 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 20,278	In August I paid about $135 for a pair of 1gb DDR2 800 PC6400 dimms then. A pair of 2gb dimms by the same brand and type of performance then saw $329 now at $209. How many order PC100 or PC133 memory these days? Not many except to restore some old system somewhere. With DDR3 available the 2gb dims of DDR2 came down plus the time of year where sales are the highest is now being seen. __________________ Turning the Tongue into a Device Controller http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Sma...ory?id=5647175 Is EBay going out of the Auction Business? http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=5626840&page=1

11-29-2007, 07:12 AM	#18 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 20,278	What are you using to see the cpu activity? The first thing would be to look at the processes tab in the task manager to see what is the most active there. That will give you an idea of what is probably hanging on you demanding cpu time. The initial spike when first opening up the chart there is normal as you see when the performance section is looked over. That's simply the cpu time request spike that disappears fast. __________________ Turning the Tongue into a Device Controller http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Sma...ory?id=5647175 Is EBay going out of the Auction Business? http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=5626840&page=1

11-29-2007, 11:11 PM	#20 (permalink)
johnb35 Platinum Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: IL, USA Age: 38 Posts: 939	Look in the processes tab and tell us what process or processes is using your cpu up. Also, what processor are you running right now? On all current processors you need the 4pin cpu plug connected in order for the computer to even boot. __________________ Motherboard - Asus P5B-E CPU - E6600 Memory - 2GB Corsair XMS2 (2x 1gb) Graphics - x1650 pro 256mb Hard Drives - 250GB WD and 250GB Samsung in Raid 1 DVD Drive - Lite-On DVD Burner - Lite-On Power Supply - Ultra 425 watt - upgrading to at least 550-600 Watt 22" Acer widescreen AL2216WBD

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11-25-2007, 09:06 AM	#11 (permalink)
dave_w Silver Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 163	Sorry to jump in with no real useful data here, but isn't anyone wondering why the industry hasn't rehabbed the labelling system for RAM and mobo/RAM compatibility? Seems kind've silly that an educated consumer could do his research, make an informed purchase, and still not get it right the first time out. At the very least, could the manufacturers keep an updated list of recommended RAM? I'm sick of checking out their websites and finding exactly the same list that's in the outdated print manual.

11-25-2007, 06:15 PM	#13 (permalink)
Bertminator New Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: CANADA Posts: 12	One thing that's upsetting, is NCIX & TigerDirect have sales on PC 6400 1 Gb's ram for $29.00, yet my PC3200 Ram is still sitting at a premium price of $65.00 / 1 GB. ram. I don't get it, my system is about 3 years old and the ram is MORE expensive than the newer stuff . If my ram were at $29.00, it would be a no brainer (my kind of purchase ). ...Bert

11-26-2007, 01:44 AM	#15 (permalink)
dave_w Silver Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 163	Yup. Retailers take a big risk keeping older memory in stock, and manufacturers take an even bigger risk my making it. So to account for the risk, they mark it up pretty high. The fact that they only make a little at a time only makes it more expensive.

11-29-2007, 05:57 AM	#17 (permalink)
Bertminator New Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: CANADA Posts: 12	Ok, I checked my system, and all is up to date, one thing I noticed however, is the CPU is sitting almost always at 100%...with spikes up and down...usually steady around 100%. I have 630 ish Megs of ram in the system, and I NEVER had that spike that high for so long. What do you think the problem might be now?

11-29-2007, 11:02 PM	#19 (permalink)
Bertminator New Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: CANADA Posts: 12	I know all about the processes, and how to shut them down. I did that, and my system is still spiking to 100%. Could it be that my power supply is hooked up wrong? I did remove it to test another computer a little while back. I'm pretty sure, everything is connected right, but maybe something got buggered up. I noticed a four-prong plug for the power supply that wasn't connected before, and I DID connect it. Could it be this little plug making my computer spike, as well as affecting my video playbacks? I find it hard to believe that this "little" plug could do this much damage. My MoBo layout says that it's called the "PWR_fan" Under the CPU Fan plugin. What do you think?

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