XP OutShines Vista

Jabes · 11-28-2007, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MatrixEVO

I want to switch to Vista, since my new system will be high-end and my video card is DX10 native. If Microsoft would allow DX10 to be used on XP, then I would not switch.

Also, alot of people are saying Vista is like ME, I don't think this is true. When Windows ME came out, it immediately seemed to be a short term OS, especially because ME stood for "Millenium Edition", and there was already alot of talk about XP when ME was released. ME only lasted for about a year. I think Vista is going to last a while longer, but maybe not as long as XP. I just think that XP is getting very old, it's 6 already! It was definitely time for an upgrade.

yea IMO its the mac people and the people that can't run vista on their pcs that are saying that

and I'm not trying to start a flame war

zaroba · 11-28-2007, 09:06 PM

erm...lol

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The tests, run on a Dell XPS M1710 test bed with a 2GHz Core 2 Duo CPU and 1GB of RAM

well, that part i bolded explains exactly WHY it ran slower for them.

whenever anybody has problems with something i know about, i first look at there specs.
something i have noticed among vista users/triers is that:
nearly all of the people who complain about it being slow or have other trouble have less then 2gb of ram.
nearly all of the people who have no trouble with it have more then 2gb of ram.

so...its pretty obvious to me that ram is the main issue with people not being able to run vista nicely.

vista uses more ram then xp. so of course it will run noticeably slower then xp on a computer with only 1 gb of ram. thats why its easily possible to upgrade computers. besides that, EVERY OS ran slower then the previous one when put on hardware made for the previous one.
ie, vista runs slower then xp on the hardware that was made for xp
xp ran slower then 98 on hardware that was made for 98
98 ran slower then 95 on hardware that was made for 95
95 ran slower on hardware that was made for 3.1

each os released needs more ram and hard drive space then the previous OS and thus ran slower on hardware that was fine for the previous os.

Jabes · 11-29-2007, 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zaroba

erm...lol

well, that part i bolded explains exactly WHY it ran slower for them.

whenever anybody has problems with something i know about, i first look at there specs.
something i have noticed among vista users/triers is that:
nearly all of the people who complain about it being slow or have other trouble have less then 2gb of ram.
nearly all of the people who have no trouble with it have more then 2gb of ram.

so...its pretty obvious to me that ram is the main issue with people not being able to run vista nicely.

vista uses more ram then xp. so of course it will run noticeably slower then xp on a computer with only 1 gb of ram. thats why its easily possible to upgrade computers. besides that, EVERY OS ran slower then the previous one when put on hardware made for the previous one.
ie, vista runs slower then xp on the hardware that was made for xp
xp ran slower then 98 on hardware that was made for 98
98 ran slower then 95 on hardware that was made for 95
95 ran slower on hardware that was made for 3.1

each os released needs more ram and hard drive space then the previous OS and thus ran slower on hardware that was fine for the previous os.

well put

chrislo · 11-29-2007, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by tobywuk

Check this link out, From Cnet stating XP is faster.

I just went back to XP from Vista yesterday and Im finding it much better.

http://www.news.com/Windows-XP-outsh...3-6220201.html

The problem with Vista is it requires more from your system, if you have a slower system its going to be slow going. What has me worried is all the bugs I am hearing about. I hope by time I build my PC to replace this one the bugs have been fixed.

hermeslyre · 11-29-2007, 02:58 AM

Service pack 3 is supposed to speed up xp even more,

http://arstechnica.com/journals/micr...rivate-testers

pwned.

Edit: the test beta was also leaked, you can find it through a bittorrent tracker site, like mininova.

chrislo · 11-29-2007, 04:19 AM

Whats the ETA for SP3?

hermeslyre · 11-29-2007, 04:23 AM

I thinks.... first half of '08. that's right, says so in the link. ;P Couple months away, It might actually be worth it to pick up that beta, 15,000 other people are currently testing it.. think of it as.. a unconfirmed testing, lol. Anyways, i haven't made up my mind yet.

chrislo · 11-29-2007, 04:29 AM

I am shocked Microsoft is coming out with SP3, I expected them to drop XP like they did with the Xbox.

patrickv · 11-29-2007, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Jabes

yea IMO its the mac people and the people that can't run vista on their pcs that are saying that

and I'm not trying to start a flame war

jabes stop being an a**, now you really pissed me off, it ain't Mac users at all, get your mind right damn it

of course you are doing a war you just don't realize what you said, you don't realize that such comments (such as your sig also) pisses off people.
sorry to be so mean dude but you deserved it

hermeslyre · 11-29-2007, 04:39 AM

Well if they dropped XP they'd look even more like an arrogant monopolized standard, damaging their image too much, possibly. Most people still use XP, and dropping all support would result in a bevy of unpatched security holes and that sort of thing. I think they should drop Vista, personally.

11-29-2007, 02:58 AM	#15 (permalink)
hermeslyre VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 18 Posts: 4,940	Service pack 3 is supposed to speed up xp even more, http://arstechnica.com/journals/micr...rivate-testers pwned. Edit: the test beta was also leaked, you can find it through a bittorrent tracker site, like mininova. Last edited by hermeslyre; 11-29-2007 at 03:09 AM.

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chrislo Silver Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lords Valley, Pennsylvania, USA Age: 21 Posts: 245	Whats the ETA for SP3? __________________ Computer Spec's: Dell Dimension XPS Gen 4 Windows XP MCE 2005 SP2 (TV Tuner Card) Intel Pentium 4 CPU 3.46GHz (2 CPUs HyperThreading) 3 GB's of Ram 2 80 GB Hard Drives ATI RADEON X850 Platinum Edition 256 MB SB Audigy 2 ZS Audio One thing PC users can do that Mac users can't do...

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chrislo Silver Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lords Valley, Pennsylvania, USA Age: 21 Posts: 245	I am shocked Microsoft is coming out with SP3, I expected them to drop XP like they did with the Xbox. __________________ Computer Spec's: Dell Dimension XPS Gen 4 Windows XP MCE 2005 SP2 (TV Tuner Card) Intel Pentium 4 CPU 3.46GHz (2 CPUs HyperThreading) 3 GB's of Ram 2 80 GB Hard Drives ATI RADEON X850 Platinum Edition 256 MB SB Audigy 2 ZS Audio One thing PC users can do that Mac users can't do...

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11-29-2007, 04:23 AM	#17 (permalink)
hermeslyre VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 18 Posts: 4,940	I thinks.... first half of '08. that's right, says so in the link. ;P Couple months away, It might actually be worth it to pick up that beta, 15,000 other people are currently testing it.. think of it as.. a unconfirmed testing, lol. Anyways, i haven't made up my mind yet.

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hermeslyre VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 18 Posts: 4,940	Well if they dropped XP they'd look even more like an arrogant monopolized standard, damaging their image too much, possibly. Most people still use XP, and dropping all support would result in a bevy of unpatched security holes and that sort of thing. I think they should drop Vista, personally.