Vista

peter912 · 12-01-2007, 10:10 PM

In a Mac computer commercial it is said that there are a lot of problems with the Vista operating system and that a lot of computer users are going back to using Windows XP instead of Vista . Is this true or only the competition ( Apple ) trying to make us believe this ?

I have Windows XP and am curious because if I bought a new computer with Vista would I encounter problems that I don't have now with Windows XP ?

tlarkin · 12-01-2007, 10:14 PM

TV doesn't lie....

Yes it is true, but that doesn't mean you would have all the problems others have running vista. It all depends on what you want to use it for. I think the main reason for people not wanting vista is because it doesn't offer any ground breaking features with a $300 upgrade. So people are sticking with XP.

spanky · 12-01-2007, 10:16 PM

I wouldn't say a lot but there are a few. The vast majority are transitioning to Vista and staying there. There are some cases in which people switch back. Most probably cause are hardware/software incompatibility (ie old system that handle vista or software support) or just pure hatred of Vista. Many of the software problems have been fixed or currently being worked on. I myself have a software/driver issue which I cannot use my wifi card but I don't mind.

All in all I like Vista better.

tlarkin · 12-01-2007, 10:25 PM

No, vista has actually had really bad sales. Comparing to the sales of XP at the same amount of time of release it is like 65% below of what XP sales were. This is because every company now has pretty much allowed customers the option of having either XP or Vista installed. Most people still choose XP. Only about 13% of the enterprise world has gone to, or has some portion, of vista users on their network. That leaves 77% of users that are not using vista, and Microsoft has like a 80% market share. So, there are still tons more XP users out there.

So, really its not that a lot of people are upgrading to vista and then downgrading back to XP, they are just not even switching to vista yet.

http://www.news.com/Windows-XP-outsh...3-6220201.html

peter912 · 12-01-2007, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by tlarkin

No, vista has actually had really bad sales. Comparing to the sales of XP at the same amount of time of release it is like 65% below of what XP sales were. This is because every company now has pretty much allowed customers the option of having either XP or Vista installed. Most people still choose XP. Only about 13% of the enterprise world has gone to, or has some portion, of vista users on their network. That leaves 77% of users that are not using vista, and Microsoft has like a 80% market share. So, there are still tons more XP users out there.

So, really its not that a lot of people are upgrading to vista and then downgrading back to XP, they are just not even switching to vista yet.

http://www.news.com/Windows-XP-outsh...3-6220201.html

What I meant really is people who have bought a new computer that came with Vista and didn't like it and gone back to using Windows XP on their new computer. A Dell rep told me that it was just the competition ( Apple) bashing the Vista operating system and to not pay attention to it.

tlarkin · 12-01-2007, 10:45 PM

Sales reps are almost always biased, wrong, or misleading. I used to work for a company years ago that had a retail side and a service side. I worked as a Tech on the service side supporting clients and of course the sales staff. I can't tell you how many battles I had with sales reps being retarded and selling clients the wrong technology or giving them wrong information.

In fact, it is the PC manufacturers that have pressured Microsoft into letting them have the ability to sell XP still. If you are a system builder for MS, and MS says okay this is the new OS that is out, you have to start putting that OS on your machine. XP was suppose to be phased out completely by now, but it hasn't. Microsoft set a deadline for January 2008 would be the last month you could buy XP on a brand new system, and because of the high demand to still get XP with a new computer they have already had to extend that dead line all the way down to June of 2008. So, its companies like Dell that don't want their sales to plummet them into bankruptcy lobbying to Microsoft to allow them to still put XP on their machines.

What happened if Microsoft didn't allow the companies to do this? Sales would have dropped off even more, and some companies could have been in a lot of trouble. If no companies make computers that run Windows OS, then Microsoft is also hurt in the end. They had no choice but to let the companies still sell XP.

12-01-2007, 10:10 PM	#1 (permalink)
peter912 Bronze Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 27	Vista In a Mac computer commercial it is said that there are a lot of problems with the Vista operating system and that a lot of computer users are going back to using Windows XP instead of Vista . Is this true or only the competition ( Apple ) trying to make us believe this ? I have Windows XP and am curious because if I bought a new computer with Vista would I encounter problems that I don't have now with Windows XP ?

12-01-2007, 10:16 PM	#3 (permalink)
spanky Diamond Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: KC, MO Posts: 2,419	I wouldn't say a lot but there are a few. The vast majority are transitioning to Vista and staying there. There are some cases in which people switch back. Most probably cause are hardware/software incompatibility (ie old system that handle vista or software support) or just pure hatred of Vista. Many of the software problems have been fixed or currently being worked on. I myself have a software/driver issue which I cannot use my wifi card but I don't mind. All in all I like Vista better. __________________ CS:S [.:CF:.] site: http://forums.cfclan.net/ Formerly theresthatguy CPU: Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 HSF: TK IFX-14 with 120 mm @ 114 CFM GPU: XFX 7950 GX2 RAM: 2GB Corsair XMS2 Pro DDR2 800 MOBO: Intel D975XBX HDD:80GB/750GB Seagates CASE: P180b

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12-01-2007, 10:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
tlarkin VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 5,930	TV doesn't lie.... Yes it is true, but that doesn't mean you would have all the problems others have running vista. It all depends on what you want to use it for. I think the main reason for people not wanting vista is because it doesn't offer any ground breaking features with a $300 upgrade. So people are sticking with XP.

12-01-2007, 10:25 PM	#4 (permalink)
tlarkin VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 5,930	No, vista has actually had really bad sales. Comparing to the sales of XP at the same amount of time of release it is like 65% below of what XP sales were. This is because every company now has pretty much allowed customers the option of having either XP or Vista installed. Most people still choose XP. Only about 13% of the enterprise world has gone to, or has some portion, of vista users on their network. That leaves 77% of users that are not using vista, and Microsoft has like a 80% market share. So, there are still tons more XP users out there. So, really its not that a lot of people are upgrading to vista and then downgrading back to XP, they are just not even switching to vista yet. http://www.news.com/Windows-XP-outsh...3-6220201.html

12-01-2007, 10:45 PM	#6 (permalink)
tlarkin VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 5,930	Sales reps are almost always biased, wrong, or misleading. I used to work for a company years ago that had a retail side and a service side. I worked as a Tech on the service side supporting clients and of course the sales staff. I can't tell you how many battles I had with sales reps being retarded and selling clients the wrong technology or giving them wrong information. In fact, it is the PC manufacturers that have pressured Microsoft into letting them have the ability to sell XP still. If you are a system builder for MS, and MS says okay this is the new OS that is out, you have to start putting that OS on your machine. XP was suppose to be phased out completely by now, but it hasn't. Microsoft set a deadline for January 2008 would be the last month you could buy XP on a brand new system, and because of the high demand to still get XP with a new computer they have already had to extend that dead line all the way down to June of 2008. So, its companies like Dell that don't want their sales to plummet them into bankruptcy lobbying to Microsoft to allow them to still put XP on their machines. What happened if Microsoft didn't allow the companies to do this? Sales would have dropped off even more, and some companies could have been in a lot of trouble. If no companies make computers that run Windows OS, then Microsoft is also hurt in the end. They had no choice but to let the companies still sell XP.