Vista Users! How to / Problems

Jabes · 12-27-2007, 06:34 PM

did it go thru the whole scan?

Kornowski · 12-27-2007, 06:49 PM

A box popped up and then disapeared, I don't know what it did...

Jabes · 12-27-2007, 07:12 PM

are u still getting the bsod?

PC eye · 12-27-2007, 10:59 PM

The sfc /scannow command was used on the older versions from 98 to XP and not applicable on Vista. With the installation disk in boot up with that and look to the bottom of the first splash screen for the "Repair Tools" button seen there. Vista now sees an automatic repair option for fixing startup problems. This is most likely what you have been running into if you saw a bad install of Windows.

**mep916** · 12-27-2007, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PC eye

The sfc /scannow command was used on the older versions from 98 to XP and not applicable on Vista.

It worked for me...sorta.

The only problem I experienced was receiving an "Access is Denied" message when attempting to view the log file. The scan apparrently found corrupted system files but failed to fix them.

PC eye · 12-28-2007, 12:14 AM

This is why I was pointing out how it was a tool good for some extent on the previous versions while Vista has it's own stratedy and security processes inplace. Instead of seeing the recovery like seen with 2000, ME, and later XP Vista no longer sees that for manual attempts at reparing any installation there. What MS did was put the new auto repair type tool as well as the Linux memtest utility as an extra on the full version disk.

**mep916** · 12-28-2007, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PC eye

Vista no longer sees that for manual attempts at reparing any installation there.

Yeah, it would be nice to see that feature in Vista. I found it very useful with XP.

PC eye · 12-28-2007, 02:48 AM

With the two sites seen for downloading the free memory tool widely recommended over their own memory tester something like memdiag they finally smartened up a little promising "Customer Satisfaction" with Vista.

I found that one almost split a rib here since while many will knock the new Windows I've been finding it not so different in various ways when reviewing the various versions going back as far as 95/98. The themes and gadget as well as some useful features change between each version anyways.

While many complain about Vista being the great "memory hog" I can easily look back to seeing a need for only 16mb for 95/98 while needing 64-128mb for XP! Each new version sees it's own dilemnas that way while the most common complaint is the need to see all new softwares. games, whatever when you go to upgrade to any newer version.

Yet one old 8bit dos game can make you laugh when seeing that it survives even on Vista and actually hearing it over 5.1 surround sound speakers while it was originally heard through the beeper type speaker on the board itself.

"duke where are you?" Duke Nukem and Nukem2 seen in those.

Kornowski · 12-29-2007, 01:22 AM

Apparently, there's something about running Vista with more than 3GB of RAM, you have to have a patch from MS to fix it, so I'm going to give that a try!

If it doesn't work, any ideas on the BSOD?

PC eye · 12-29-2007, 02:29 AM

BSODs are generally hardware drivers causing them. When the ATI 7.9 and drivers on the software disk itself were causing problems on the new build here on both Vista and XP alike ATI came out with a patch that didn't quite make it. The 7.10 soon to follow saw Vista's problems cleared up fast!

XP then still needed the 7.11 for some annoyances however. So the best advice is to give a go to avoid the possible need to reinstall Windows there in order to the problems cleared up. The MS patch was obviously developed due to the specific error seen when running 4gb in borh 32 and 64bit versions.

This addresses that problem seen in the 64bit versions as well as seen in 32bit Windows. As I pointed out to some already 4gb still poses problems in the 64nit Windows as well as in the 43bit editions. This is one line only from a good article on the 3gb barrier seen at the link below.

"By default, an all-64-bit PC will still have the standard big holes in its memory from three to four gigabytes. This is the lowest-hassle way to deal with the problem - just install more than 4Gb of memory, and live with the fact that your 8Gb PC with a 768Mb graphics card only actually has seven-point-not-much gigabytes of visible RAM." http://www.dansdata.com/askdan00015.htm

The main thought there regards the present 2-4gb chipsets used on boards seeing memory slots upto 8gb and 16gb even. Memory capacity before the support by OS and hardware manufacturers results in seeing this type of problem.

12-27-2007, 10:59 PM	#44 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 18,998	The sfc /scannow command was used on the older versions from 98 to XP and not applicable on Vista. With the installation disk in boot up with that and look to the bottom of the first splash screen for the "Repair Tools" button seen there. Vista now sees an automatic repair option for fixing startup problems. This is most likely what you have been running into if you saw a bad install of Windows. __________________ Youtube falls short of Google's expectations http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Ahe...ory?id=5336532 Congress studies how people track your online use http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Ahe...ory?id=5337932

12-28-2007, 12:14 AM	#46 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 18,998	This is why I was pointing out how it was a tool good for some extent on the previous versions while Vista has it's own stratedy and security processes inplace. Instead of seeing the recovery like seen with 2000, ME, and later XP Vista no longer sees that for manual attempts at reparing any installation there. What MS did was put the new auto repair type tool as well as the Linux memtest utility as an extra on the full version disk. __________________ Youtube falls short of Google's expectations http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Ahe...ory?id=5336532 Congress studies how people track your online use http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Ahe...ory?id=5337932

12-28-2007, 02:48 AM	#48 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 18,998	With the two sites seen for downloading the free memory tool widely recommended over their own memory tester something like memdiag they finally smartened up a little promising "Customer Satisfaction" with Vista. I found that one almost split a rib here since while many will knock the new Windows I've been finding it not so different in various ways when reviewing the various versions going back as far as 95/98. The themes and gadget as well as some useful features change between each version anyways. While many complain about Vista being the great "memory hog" I can easily look back to seeing a need for only 16mb for 95/98 while needing 64-128mb for XP! Each new version sees it's own dilemnas that way while the most common complaint is the need to see all new softwares. games, whatever when you go to upgrade to any newer version. Yet one old 8bit dos game can make you laugh when seeing that it survives even on Vista and actually hearing it over 5.1 surround sound speakers while it was originally heard through the beeper type speaker on the board itself. "duke where are you?" Duke Nukem and Nukem2 seen in those. __________________ Youtube falls short of Google's expectations http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Ahe...ory?id=5336532 Congress studies how people track your online use http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Ahe...ory?id=5337932

12-29-2007, 02:29 AM	#50 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 18,998	BSODs are generally hardware drivers causing them. When the ATI 7.9 and drivers on the software disk itself were causing problems on the new build here on both Vista and XP alike ATI came out with a patch that didn't quite make it. The 7.10 soon to follow saw Vista's problems cleared up fast! XP then still needed the 7.11 for some annoyances however. So the best advice is to give a go to avoid the possible need to reinstall Windows there in order to the problems cleared up. The MS patch was obviously developed due to the specific error seen when running 4gb in borh 32 and 64bit versions. This addresses that problem seen in the 64bit versions as well as seen in 32bit Windows. As I pointed out to some already 4gb still poses problems in the 64nit Windows as well as in the 43bit editions. This is one line only from a good article on the 3gb barrier seen at the link below. "By default, an all-64-bit PC will still have the standard big holes in its memory from three to four gigabytes. This is the lowest-hassle way to deal with the problem - just install more than 4Gb of memory, and live with the fact that your 8Gb PC with a 768Mb graphics card only actually has seven-point-not-much gigabytes of visible RAM." http://www.dansdata.com/askdan00015.htm The main thought there regards the present 2-4gb chipsets used on boards seeing memory slots upto 8gb and 16gb even. Memory capacity before the support by OS and hardware manufacturers results in seeing this type of problem. __________________ Youtube falls short of Google's expectations http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Ahe...ory?id=5336532 Congress studies how people track your online use http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Ahe...ory?id=5337932

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12-27-2007, 06:34 PM	#41 (permalink)
Jabes banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Vista the best place to live :D Age: 15 Posts: 1,773	did it go thru the whole scan?

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