Getting Vista Ultimate 64-bit and.....

SIMP · 01-14-2008, 03:17 AM

You guys make some very interesting points and I appreciate you taking the time to reply to my thread. I think I'm going to use that 64-bit seeing how I plan on buying more memory and really don't do much other than surf the net and play games once in a while. By the way, I will be using a separate hard drive for the install so my XP can stay intact.

SIMP · 01-14-2008, 03:59 AM

PC EYE, that is exactly what I wanted to do. Thanks for the advice. So, When I install Vista, simply unplug the XP HDD and install vista on the separate sata HDD? Then once installed I can use the BIOS to decide what disk to boot from? Sounds like the way to go man. I will still see the XP drive after booting though won't I? Well, that won't be too bad I guess. Thanks again!

SirKenin · 01-14-2008, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SIMP

PC EYE, that is exactly what I wanted to do. Thanks for the advice. So, When I install Vista, simply unplug the XP HDD and install vista on the separate sata HDD? Then once installed I can use the BIOS to decide what disk to boot from? Sounds like the way to go man. I will still see the XP drive after booting though won't I? Well, that won't be too bad I guess. Thanks again!

That's not going to work in most cases. In rare cases the mobo will allow you to pick one harddrive to boot from, if you don't mind switching back and forth through the BIOS all the time. Most bios' I've seen won't allow that though.

Better to modify the boot.ini to be able to dual boot.

GSAV55 · 01-14-2008, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SirKenin

Better to modify the boot.ini to be able to dual boot.

How do you do that?

SIMP · 01-15-2008, 07:05 PM

Well, I have failed to install Vista Ultimate 64. During install, it almost finishes the "Completing Installation" and then it gives the Blue Screen of Death. Afterwards it restarts and tells me installation was not complete and to restart my computer. After restarting, I get the same message about installation not being complete and I must restart. It's an endless cycle!! Safe mode won't complete the installation either.

Any ideas?

SirKenin · 01-16-2008, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by SIMP

Well, I have failed to install Vista Ultimate 64. During install, it almost finishes the "Completing Installation" and then it gives the Blue Screen of Death. Afterwards it restarts and tells me installation was not complete and to restart my computer. After restarting, I get the same message about installation not being complete and I must restart. It's an endless cycle!! Safe mode won't complete the installation either.

Any ideas?

Most likely a driver issue. Safe mode won't work either because it will still attempt to install the driver.

Either that or it's findind a flaw in your hardware.

SIMP · 01-16-2008, 05:20 AM

I guess I'll start trying to eliminate this problem one piece of hardware at a time. My plan of action may be as follows:

1) Update BIOS
2) Try install with different video card
3) Try install with different hard drive
4) Try install with less memory

If I take a picture of the BSOD, could someone help me identify the problem based on the code? This is aggravating the heck out of me! All I wanted was to give Vista Ultimate a chance.

GSAV55 · 01-16-2008, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SIMP

All I wanted was to give Vista Ultimate a chance.

lol, sorry

PC eye · 01-14-2008, 03:47 AM

As a second OS you will probably want to unplus the XP drive to avoid the newer version's placement of the new boot loader and adding XP as an option until deciding which will be the default OS. If you later decide to remove the 64bit edition you won't be forced to reinstall XP all over along with programs and even deletion of the XP primary to see the Vista boot folder removed.

As far as softwares? Games seem to do better since most of those will still install on the 32bit editions of Vista while desktop applications are the different story. Many were written specifically for XP or simply are not supported seeing newer versions. One good example is seeing an old 8bit dos game run through a virtual dos window on Vista while the tv tuner card had to be replaced when going from XP to Vista.

For the none dual boot setup most boards will see an F8 or another F key assigned for bringing up the boot device menu instead of going into the bios setup before Windows even starts to load. That will allow you to keep XP intact.

PC eye · 01-14-2008, 04:13 AM

The key there is in reverse to the way it is here at the moment with each installation being a stand alone. With Vista on the ide drive for the time being I set that as the default in the bios to get totally familiar with the new version. For XP on the Asus board here I press the F8 key right when either first starting or on a reboot to select the first of two sata drives in order to load XP.

Being an Asus model in your sig you will probably still see the F8 key being assigned for this. This also allows you to boot from a floppy or optical drive as all drives installed are listed under each catagory. It can make life easier then reinstalling one after removing the other from a dual boot configuration.

Plus Vista loses restore points when dual booted with VP until following one article on that. There are a few arounds for that however like those seen at http://vistasupport.mvps.org/prevent...windows_xp.htm

01-14-2008, 03:17 AM	#1 (permalink)
SIMP Gold Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Mississippi Posts: 318	You guys make some very interesting points and I appreciate you taking the time to reply to my thread. I think I'm going to use that 64-bit seeing how I plan on buying more memory and really don't do much other than surf the net and play games once in a while. By the way, I will be using a separate hard drive for the install so my XP can stay intact. __________________ CPU: E5200 MB: MSI P35 Neo2-FR GFX: 8800 GTX RAM: 4GB Geil DDR2 800 CASE: CM Centurion 534 LCD: Dell 20" 2005FPW OS: Vista Ultimate

01-14-2008, 03:59 AM	#2 (permalink)
SIMP Gold Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Mississippi Posts: 318	PC EYE, that is exactly what I wanted to do. Thanks for the advice. So, When I install Vista, simply unplug the XP HDD and install vista on the separate sata HDD? Then once installed I can use the BIOS to decide what disk to boot from? Sounds like the way to go man. I will still see the XP drive after booting though won't I? Well, that won't be too bad I guess. Thanks again! __________________ CPU: E5200 MB: MSI P35 Neo2-FR GFX: 8800 GTX RAM: 4GB Geil DDR2 800 CASE: CM Centurion 534 LCD: Dell 20" 2005FPW OS: Vista Ultimate

01-15-2008, 07:05 PM	#5 (permalink)
SIMP Gold Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Mississippi Posts: 318	Well, I have failed to install Vista Ultimate 64. During install, it almost finishes the "Completing Installation" and then it gives the Blue Screen of Death. Afterwards it restarts and tells me installation was not complete and to restart my computer. After restarting, I get the same message about installation not being complete and I must restart. It's an endless cycle!! Safe mode won't complete the installation either. Any ideas? __________________ CPU: E5200 MB: MSI P35 Neo2-FR GFX: 8800 GTX RAM: 4GB Geil DDR2 800 CASE: CM Centurion 534 LCD: Dell 20" 2005FPW OS: Vista Ultimate

01-16-2008, 05:20 AM	#7 (permalink)
SIMP Gold Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Mississippi Posts: 318	I guess I'll start trying to eliminate this problem one piece of hardware at a time. My plan of action may be as follows: 1) Update BIOS 2) Try install with different video card 3) Try install with different hard drive 4) Try install with less memory If I take a picture of the BSOD, could someone help me identify the problem based on the code? This is aggravating the heck out of me! All I wanted was to give Vista Ultimate a chance. __________________ CPU: E5200 MB: MSI P35 Neo2-FR GFX: 8800 GTX RAM: 4GB Geil DDR2 800 CASE: CM Centurion 534 LCD: Dell 20" 2005FPW OS: Vista Ultimate Last edited by SIMP; 01-16-2008 at 05:23 AM.

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01-14-2008, 03:47 AM	#9 (permalink)
PC eye banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 21,091	As a second OS you will probably want to unplus the XP drive to avoid the newer version's placement of the new boot loader and adding XP as an option until deciding which will be the default OS. If you later decide to remove the 64bit edition you won't be forced to reinstall XP all over along with programs and even deletion of the XP primary to see the Vista boot folder removed. As far as softwares? Games seem to do better since most of those will still install on the 32bit editions of Vista while desktop applications are the different story. Many were written specifically for XP or simply are not supported seeing newer versions. One good example is seeing an old 8bit dos game run through a virtual dos window on Vista while the tv tuner card had to be replaced when going from XP to Vista. For the none dual boot setup most boards will see an F8 or another F key assigned for bringing up the boot device menu instead of going into the bios setup before Windows even starts to load. That will allow you to keep XP intact.

01-14-2008, 04:13 AM	#10 (permalink)
PC eye banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 21,091	The key there is in reverse to the way it is here at the moment with each installation being a stand alone. With Vista on the ide drive for the time being I set that as the default in the bios to get totally familiar with the new version. For XP on the Asus board here I press the F8 key right when either first starting or on a reboot to select the first of two sata drives in order to load XP. Being an Asus model in your sig you will probably still see the F8 key being assigned for this. This also allows you to boot from a floppy or optical drive as all drives installed are listed under each catagory. It can make life easier then reinstalling one after removing the other from a dual boot configuration. Plus Vista loses restore points when dual booted with VP until following one article on that. There are a few arounds for that however like those seen at http://vistasupport.mvps.org/prevent...windows_xp.htm

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