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Old 01-28-2008, 02:12 AM   #21 (permalink)
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what are you on crack?

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I think a P35 would have been fine for you. They support PCIe 2.0 as well as 45nm CPUs
obviously you like to talk out of your ass. No native support and 45nm support requires a bios flash which requires a cpu which means i need to buy a cpu just to do a friggen bios, no thanks. and no there is no psie 2.0 support on the p35 chipset, try lookign that one up first.

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Front fire wire is not the MB but the case
the mobo needs to have firewire headers on it dimwit


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Raid works with P35 mobo's
wow youi got one thing right, even though being a p35 has noting to do with the fact, its the southbridge that decides this one smart guy

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You only have one GPU, and cannot run a second nVidia on the X38 if you wanted to add one later
by the time I look at multi gpu setups I would rather buy two brand new cards than buy an extra aging card, thus I could buy two brand new crossfire cards, just for now Id rather have the single 8800GTS

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The only winner here is more USB slots. Is that worth a X38 over a P35?
the only winner? and think again, the first p35 board that meets my personal criteria is a 170 dollar board, which comes with no native 45nm support and no pcie 2.0, which to me, is much worth the 20 dollar premium for the x38 chipset. If this was a budget build, i would of gone p35, but it was not so I went with a better product for my needs.
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Old 01-28-2008, 02:20 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I'm not trying to bash your build, it is a nice one. I just don't agree with the X38 completely. Mature discussion would have been fine.

And if you have to go through BIOS bs, then X38 certainly does look better.
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I personally think the x38 was a good choice. And that gigabyte MB is a very good one. Now a x48 would have been overkill.
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I personally think the x38 was a good choice. And that gigabyte MB is a very good one. Now a x48 would have been overkill.
is the X48 out yet?
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P35 supports PCI 2.0 Read here
ask around too.

There are P35s with 1394 Firewire ports.

P35 still supports 45nm technology, and many do not require a BIOS update. Ask around.

Raid stands, you brought this topic up yourself two posts ago.

If you want to buy two new ATIs in the future, so be it.

But you still win with the USB slots, you got me there.
pcie needs to enabled on the board, there are no p35 boards on the market that have pcie 2.0 slots, end of story.

it dosent matter if many support 45 out of the box, if i got a board that didnt have the correct bios I would have to wait another week and spend more moeny to get a chip to flash it. hassle i dont need with the x38

i don't know what you are getting at with raid, i wanted the ich9r southbridge, which supports 6 sata slots and raid 10 and yes i know both p35 and x38 have that

this isnt a matter of wether or not p35 works, it does, but for what i wanted on a mobo, (firewire, tons of usb, pcie2.0, raid, sata ports, native 45nm support) there is no p35 that matches the x38 at the rice point.
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is the X48 out yet?
Not that I have seen. But I was just saying, if it had been out, that would have been overkill. The x48 boards are going to be for the extreme enthusiast.
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I personally think the x38 was a good choice. And that gigabyte MB is a very good one. Now a x48 would have been overkill.
intel "says" end of feb, if i had the cash and the time i would of waited just to say i had it =P
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Old 01-28-2008, 03:02 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Once again, I wasnt bashing your build. In retrospect, the X38 looks like a good choice.
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