bottle necking problem on gt

andy_mitch92 · 01-31-2008, 03:20 AM

i had an 1300pro ati card in my computer and it played games extremely well for its age.. i would play cod4 at at least 25 fps and gears at around the same maybe a bit less... now i got an 8800gt and cod4 jumps more than the girls on bay watch. i have a 3ghz p4 ( to hold me over till i can get the 9450 or 9550) and i have overclocked it to 3.5 and it seems to be playing games worse than b4. is this a bottle necking problem or is it something else?

other info:
mobo: asus maximus formula
cpu: cedar mill (65nm) pentium 4, 3ghz stock
ram: 4 gigs of gskill 1000mhz
os: vista ultimate 64bit

the_painter · 01-31-2008, 05:16 AM

Turn down your settings?

Try turning down particles or explosions...or something of the sort
Anything that might cause the cpu to struggle...
Just paly around with the settings...I usually find that it is just one setting that will make my pc slow down...

andy_mitch92 · 01-31-2008, 08:12 PM

well then... i was wondering if there was anyway to decrease the multiplyer in the cpu inorder to increase the fsb and possably allow it to feed the processor a bit faster so i can get some good frame rates, tell me if my thinking is off.

i know that i have a locked multiplyer, but i heard that some of them you can decreast them by 1 or 2 so you can increase the fsb.

andy_mitch92 · 01-31-2008, 10:32 PM

well i fixed the problem, i had to oc to 4ghz though and thats not exactly ideal. another ideas on how to fix this w/o such a high cpu clock

diduknowthat · 01-31-2008, 11:07 PM

Buy a new CPU? Your CPU is bottlenecking your system and there's nothing you can do besides OCing and buying a new one.

lion149 · 01-31-2008, 11:10 PM

It may just be me but something doesnt seem right, if you are playing the exact same game with the same setup but a better GPU, the how could the game be playing worse fps then prior?

(this is all under the assumption that you kept the graphic settings similar)

andy_mitch92 · 01-31-2008, 11:30 PM

that didnt sound right to me either. but i oced an now i can play gears of war and cod4 at 30+fps. i rmaed my first gt because it would artifact, but i ran ati tool with this one for an hour and it was just fine. im sure its a bottle necking problem some how, and i WANT a new cpu but the 45 quads are not out yet!!!

andy_mitch92 · 02-01-2008, 04:14 AM

well it started doing it again. i can at max get 6fps in 3dmk06 and thats with the cpu overclocked and stock speeds.
any ideas?

madroxinide · 02-01-2008, 04:27 AM

Reset your bios.. My 8800gt did that to me once after I messed around with overclocking and such. Ran like crap. I completely reset my bios to defaults and it worked fine. I must have hit some setting somewhere that held back the card.

Also, make sure the PCI-E slot your running it in is a PCI-E x16 and not an x4 or x8 or something. And then make sure that you have the 6 pin power connector plugged into the card and make sure the clock speeds on the card itself are at least stock and not downclocked.

andy_mitch92 · 02-01-2008, 04:45 AM

iv done all of that... although i always turn off cpu and pcie spread spectrum (what ever that does) because i saw a screen shot of someone who knew what they were doing and they had both of those disabled. the thing i dont get is why it worked perfectly at 4 but now it runs like crap again, INTEL NEEDS TO BRING THEIR 45NMS OUT NOW!!!
and my slot is running at a full 16x.

01-31-2008, 03:20 AM	#1 (permalink)
andy_mitch92 Silver Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Great Bend, Ks Posts: 171	bottle necking problem on gt i had an 1300pro ati card in my computer and it played games extremely well for its age.. i would play cod4 at at least 25 fps and gears at around the same maybe a bit less... now i got an 8800gt and cod4 jumps more than the girls on bay watch. i have a 3ghz p4 ( to hold me over till i can get the 9450 or 9550) and i have overclocked it to 3.5 and it seems to be playing games worse than b4. is this a bottle necking problem or is it something else? other info: mobo: asus maximus formula cpu: cedar mill (65nm) pentium 4, 3ghz stock ram: 4 gigs of gskill 1000mhz os: vista ultimate 64bit __________________ CPU Intel Q9450 RAM 4GB G.skill 1000Mhz @ 800Mhz 3-4-4-12 T1 MOTHERBOARD Asus Maximus Formula GFX Evga 8800GT "There is no mechanical problem too tough that cannot be fixed by brute strength and ignorance." Last edited by andy_mitch92; 01-31-2008 at 04:36 AM.

01-31-2008, 08:12 PM	#3 (permalink)
andy_mitch92 Silver Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Great Bend, Ks Posts: 171	well then... i was wondering if there was anyway to decrease the multiplyer in the cpu inorder to increase the fsb and possably allow it to feed the processor a bit faster so i can get some good frame rates, tell me if my thinking is off. i know that i have a locked multiplyer, but i heard that some of them you can decreast them by 1 or 2 so you can increase the fsb. __________________ CPU Intel Q9450 RAM 4GB G.skill 1000Mhz @ 800Mhz 3-4-4-12 T1 MOTHERBOARD Asus Maximus Formula GFX Evga 8800GT "There is no mechanical problem too tough that cannot be fixed by brute strength and ignorance."

01-31-2008, 10:32 PM	#4 (permalink)
andy_mitch92 Silver Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Great Bend, Ks Posts: 171	well i fixed the problem, i had to oc to 4ghz though and thats not exactly ideal. another ideas on how to fix this w/o such a high cpu clock __________________ CPU Intel Q9450 RAM 4GB G.skill 1000Mhz @ 800Mhz 3-4-4-12 T1 MOTHERBOARD Asus Maximus Formula GFX Evga 8800GT "There is no mechanical problem too tough that cannot be fixed by brute strength and ignorance."

01-31-2008, 11:07 PM	#5 (permalink)
diduknowthat formerly liuliuboy Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Massachusetts Age: 18 Posts: 6,636	Buy a new CPU? Your CPU is bottlenecking your system and there's nothing you can do besides OCing and buying a new one. __________________ Dell Latitude XT Convertible Tablet Intel Core 2 Duo U7600 1.2ghz CPU 3GB DDR2 677 Memory 120GB 1.8" PATA Hard Drive ATI Radeon Xpress 1250 Graphics 12.1" WXGA LED Touch Screen N-Trig Capacitive Touch/Active Digitizer

01-31-2008, 11:10 PM	#6 (permalink)
lion149 Gold Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 314	It may just be me but something doesnt seem right, if you are playing the exact same game with the same setup but a better GPU, the how could the game be playing worse fps then prior? (this is all under the assumption that you kept the graphic settings similar) __________________ Rig#1: OS: XP Home Sp3 CPU:Intel Pentium 4 (3.20ghz) MB Biostar p4m900-m4 HDD:160 gb 7200rpm RAM:3gb Kingston DDR2 667 GPU:EVGA 8600gt DDR3 512mb PSU:Apevia 500w Rig#2: Compaq Deskpro-Ubuntu 7.10-Pentium III 600mhz-10gb & 7gb slave-384mb-Agp rage pro 2x[/size][/size]

01-31-2008, 05:16 AM	#2 (permalink)
the_painter Gold Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: california Posts: 273	Turn down your settings? Try turning down particles or explosions...or something of the sort Anything that might cause the cpu to struggle... Just paly around with the settings...I usually find that it is just one setting that will make my pc slow down...

01-31-2008, 11:30 PM	#7 (permalink)
andy_mitch92 Silver Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Great Bend, Ks Posts: 171	that didnt sound right to me either. but i oced an now i can play gears of war and cod4 at 30+fps. i rmaed my first gt because it would artifact, but i ran ati tool with this one for an hour and it was just fine. im sure its a bottle necking problem some how, and i WANT a new cpu but the 45 quads are not out yet!!! __________________ CPU Intel Q9450 RAM 4GB G.skill 1000Mhz @ 800Mhz 3-4-4-12 T1 MOTHERBOARD Asus Maximus Formula GFX Evga 8800GT "There is no mechanical problem too tough that cannot be fixed by brute strength and ignorance."

02-01-2008, 04:14 AM	#8 (permalink)
andy_mitch92 Silver Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Great Bend, Ks Posts: 171	well it started doing it again. i can at max get 6fps in 3dmk06 and thats with the cpu overclocked and stock speeds. any ideas? __________________ CPU Intel Q9450 RAM 4GB G.skill 1000Mhz @ 800Mhz 3-4-4-12 T1 MOTHERBOARD Asus Maximus Formula GFX Evga 8800GT "There is no mechanical problem too tough that cannot be fixed by brute strength and ignorance."

02-01-2008, 04:27 AM	#9 (permalink)
madroxinide New Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 12	Reset your bios.. My 8800gt did that to me once after I messed around with overclocking and such. Ran like crap. I completely reset my bios to defaults and it worked fine. I must have hit some setting somewhere that held back the card. Also, make sure the PCI-E slot your running it in is a PCI-E x16 and not an x4 or x8 or something. And then make sure that you have the 6 pin power connector plugged into the card and make sure the clock speeds on the card itself are at least stock and not downclocked.

02-01-2008, 04:45 AM	#10 (permalink)
andy_mitch92 Silver Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Great Bend, Ks Posts: 171	iv done all of that... although i always turn off cpu and pcie spread spectrum (what ever that does) because i saw a screen shot of someone who knew what they were doing and they had both of those disabled. the thing i dont get is why it worked perfectly at 4 but now it runs like crap again, INTEL NEEDS TO BRING THEIR 45NMS OUT NOW!!! and my slot is running at a full 16x. __________________ CPU Intel Q9450 RAM 4GB G.skill 1000Mhz @ 800Mhz 3-4-4-12 T1 MOTHERBOARD Asus Maximus Formula GFX Evga 8800GT "There is no mechanical problem too tough that cannot be fixed by brute strength and ignorance."

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