Start menu on Vista

Gabriel · 02-09-2008, 04:37 PM

Well, I managed to remove AOL and gateway games after removing them from the program files (I uninstaled gateway games) and running CCleaner.
However, now only Windows programs that I never use appear. IE, WMedia Player, Media Center, Photo Gallery, Calendar...

PC eye · 02-09-2008, 11:20 PM

Well you wanted those removed from the list. The programs you install separately should still be seen in the remove list and advanced view of folders. The defaults will be seen since those are part of the proprietary preinstalled package there. With your own custom installation of Windows the defaults plus what you install would then be seen unless removed since there is no automatic restoration.

Gabriel · 02-13-2008, 04:30 AM

But can't I remove these default programs from the list?

PC eye · 02-13-2008, 05:14 AM

Those are built into Vista unlike previous versions where you could simply use the add/remove Windows components to see them gone. For IE 7, WMP 11, and the new since XP Pro MCE edtition Media Center you can simply delete the desktop shortcuts if present.

Other then that where are you most of the time? I assume at the desktop doing other things now that the AOL and the Gateway games are gone. You can disable WMP and Media Center in the msconfig>services tab and simply ignore that they are in the remove list.

Gabriel · 02-13-2008, 10:22 PM

They aren't in the desktop.
They are in the Start Menu.

In the services tab I have:
WMP Network Sharing Device
WMC Receiver Service
WMC Schedule Service
WMC Network Sharing Device.

Which ones should I disable?

PC eye · 02-14-2008, 03:10 AM

Any or all since those are non vital services there. Otherwise you would generally check off the "hide all microsoft services" box to avoid disabling any essential services Windows needs in order to run.

When right clicking on any item in the Start>Programs here and choosing delete it goes right into the recycle bin without problem. For some reason I don't think you have full administrative access there. Otherwise those would be deleted easily.

cjbauman · 02-16-2008, 06:34 AM

I'm also experiencing this same problem with a new Gateway desktop running Vista Home Premium. The issue is that the Start Menu recently used apps list resets everytime I log out and back in, no matter what I do. I've right-clicked and selected "Remove from this list" on each of the apps that Gateway seems to want to preload. When I do that they do go away until I log back in and then they are back. I should mention that other apps that I'm actually using get added to the list for that session but are gone again once I log out and back in.

I'm a long time WinXP and Vista user and I've never run across this issue before. Is there someone on this forum who can help with this issue who also understands that this has nothing to do with uninstalling or removing applications? It's simply a matter of these icons being forced on us every time we log on.

TIA,
Carl J. Bauman

PC eye · 02-16-2008, 07:21 AM

What you are missing there is that Gateway has it's own automatic system restoration feature being seen there. If you remove a Windows component that is automatically restored or repaired on a fresh startup.

Unlike most older prebuild systems and laptops with preinstalled OS where there were recovery disks needed newer models now see a key or key combination for seeing Wiindows completely restored to factory condition. With a custom install on a new build or upgrade of one version to the next there is no hidden recovery partition or automatic restoration if something is removed.

The System Restore feature in Windows is used to roll back everything back to a previous point unless too much is gone. Then you would need to repair install or completely reinstall Windows to see something put back.

Gabriel · 02-18-2008, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PC eye

...
When right clicking on any item in the Start>Programs here and choosing delete it goes right into the recycle bin without problem. For some reason I don't think you have full administrative access there. Otherwise those would be deleted easily.

It's not Start>Programs. They are on the left hand of the start menu, you don't have to click on any other button.
Also, I believe I do have administrative access. This was the only account on this computer until some time ago, and also I can use the "Run as Administrator" option in some programs.

PC eye · 02-19-2008, 03:19 AM

If you are talking about items above the Start button those can be dragged onto the desktop and deleted by simply right clicking on them for the delete option or dragging into the recycle bin. You can also drag shortcuts off of the desktop there. The rest are Programs, Documents, Settings, Search, Run which are permanent.

02-09-2008, 11:20 PM	#12 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 19,331	Well you wanted those removed from the list. The programs you install separately should still be seen in the remove list and advanced view of folders. The defaults will be seen since those are part of the proprietary preinstalled package there. With your own custom installation of Windows the defaults plus what you install would then be seen unless removed since there is no automatic restoration. __________________ Turning the Tongue into a Device Controller http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Sma...ory?id=5647175 Is EBay going out of the Auction Business? http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=5626840&page=1

02-13-2008, 05:14 AM	#14 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 19,331	Those are built into Vista unlike previous versions where you could simply use the add/remove Windows components to see them gone. For IE 7, WMP 11, and the new since XP Pro MCE edtition Media Center you can simply delete the desktop shortcuts if present. Other then that where are you most of the time? I assume at the desktop doing other things now that the AOL and the Gateway games are gone. You can disable WMP and Media Center in the msconfig>services tab and simply ignore that they are in the remove list. __________________ Turning the Tongue into a Device Controller http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Sma...ory?id=5647175 Is EBay going out of the Auction Business? http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=5626840&page=1

02-14-2008, 03:10 AM	#16 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 19,331	Any or all since those are non vital services there. Otherwise you would generally check off the "hide all microsoft services" box to avoid disabling any essential services Windows needs in order to run. When right clicking on any item in the Start>Programs here and choosing delete it goes right into the recycle bin without problem. For some reason I don't think you have full administrative access there. Otherwise those would be deleted easily. __________________ Turning the Tongue into a Device Controller http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Sma...ory?id=5647175 Is EBay going out of the Auction Business? http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=5626840&page=1

02-16-2008, 07:21 AM	#18 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 19,331	What you are missing there is that Gateway has it's own automatic system restoration feature being seen there. If you remove a Windows component that is automatically restored or repaired on a fresh startup. Unlike most older prebuild systems and laptops with preinstalled OS where there were recovery disks needed newer models now see a key or key combination for seeing Wiindows completely restored to factory condition. With a custom install on a new build or upgrade of one version to the next there is no hidden recovery partition or automatic restoration if something is removed. The System Restore feature in Windows is used to roll back everything back to a previous point unless too much is gone. Then you would need to repair install or completely reinstall Windows to see something put back. __________________ Turning the Tongue into a Device Controller http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Sma...ory?id=5647175 Is EBay going out of the Auction Business? http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=5626840&page=1

02-19-2008, 03:19 AM	#20 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 19,331	If you are talking about items above the Start button those can be dragged onto the desktop and deleted by simply right clicking on them for the delete option or dragging into the recycle bin. You can also drag shortcuts off of the desktop there. The rest are Programs, Documents, Settings, Search, Run which are permanent. __________________ Turning the Tongue into a Device Controller http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Sma...ory?id=5647175 Is EBay going out of the Auction Business? http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=5626840&page=1

02-09-2008, 04:37 PM	#11 (permalink)
Gabriel Bronze Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 76	Well, I managed to remove AOL and gateway games after removing them from the program files (I uninstaled gateway games) and running CCleaner. However, now only Windows programs that I never use appear. IE, WMedia Player, Media Center, Photo Gallery, Calendar...

02-13-2008, 04:30 AM	#13 (permalink)
Gabriel Bronze Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 76	But can't I remove these default programs from the list?

02-13-2008, 10:22 PM	#15 (permalink)
Gabriel Bronze Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 76	They aren't in the desktop. They are in the Start Menu. In the services tab I have: WMP Network Sharing Device WMC Receiver Service WMC Schedule Service WMC Network Sharing Device. Which ones should I disable?

02-16-2008, 06:34 AM	#17 (permalink)
cjbauman New Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1	I'm also experiencing this same problem with a new Gateway desktop running Vista Home Premium. The issue is that the Start Menu recently used apps list resets everytime I log out and back in, no matter what I do. I've right-clicked and selected "Remove from this list" on each of the apps that Gateway seems to want to preload. When I do that *they do go away* until I log back in and then they are back. I should mention that other apps that I'm actually using get added to the list for that session but are gone again once I log out and back in. I'm a long time WinXP and Vista user and I've never run across this issue before. Is there someone on this forum who can help with this issue who also understands that this has nothing to do with uninstalling or removing applications? It's simply a matter of these icons being forced on us every time we log on. TIA, Carl J. Bauman

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
problem with vista on dells	cuffless	Operating Systems	0	02-18-2007 07:28 PM
duel boot ?	meanman	Operating Systems	13	09-19-2006 09:33 AM
Rivarts.A Attack!	RPT	Computer Security	21	04-05-2006 07:58 PM
color over start menu file	baseballplayer217	Operating Systems	2	01-19-2006 05:28 PM
Start Menu Stuck In Classic Mode	Jiffyman	Operating Systems	8	01-19-2006 11:06 AM