How much faster is my new PC?

Klyla · 02-04-2008, 07:49 AM

OK, I admit I'm somewhat ignorant about this even after reading the stickies and anything else I could find on the net. I'm hoping someone here can explain this in idiot's terms to me.

My old PC had an Athlon 1.3 GHz/200 shown as the "base processor and speed". It's about 6 years old.

My new PC has an AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core Processor 5200+.

Since 64 X2 and 5200+ vs. 1.3 and 200 seem to need some translation to be in the same language, could someone explain them to me in the "same" terms and tell me just how much faster the new PC is? TIA.

Vestitor · 02-04-2008, 08:21 AM

Well, I don't know how to explain it.
I used to have a Pentium 2.2ghz then upgraded to my new system(In sig) and the boost is pretty insane.
On 3DMark06 I got like 500 or so for the cpu test on my Pentium 2.2ghz and on my current rig I get about 1800-2000 depending on if I overclock it. So it is roughly 4 times faster. Speed also depends some what on memory though.
Hope I helped a little.

hermeslyre · 02-04-2008, 08:38 AM

The X2 has a better designed architecture, so it isn't just clockspeed difference. It goes even deeper, considering the the X2 is dual core. Most of the dudes here won't be able to tell you exactly how much of a difference there is, simply that it is a much, much better chip.

**Archangel** · 02-04-2008, 10:35 AM

you could see it as someone walking, the 1.3 ghz processor is someone taking small steps at a 1.3ghz rate, while the X2 takes much bigger steps at a 2.6ghz rate (not to mention that its basicly 2 people walking

)
maybe its a stupid comparison, maybe not, but it does it for me ^^

either way, I'm fairly sure you could say the new pc is at least a 10fold faster than the old one.

I think you can test this btw, that is, if you have the old pc still able to run

download SuperPI
run it on both pc's, and see how much longer the old pc has to calculate till its finnished than the new one

(ofcourse, iirc this is a single tread, while your new pc is a dual core, this program will only use 1 core, so you 'theoretically' could run superpi twice at the same time without it taking longer, but I gues it will slow down a bit still (but definately not as much as when you'd run it twice at the same time on the old pc

)

either way, i'd say give it a try.

lovely? · 02-04-2008, 11:18 AM

hmm hey archangel is it possible to turn off three of your four cores on your q6600? we have the same clockspeed, and im using an AMD 3400 with a little overclock, maybe we can show how the different architectures really matter

**Archangel** · 02-04-2008, 11:23 AM

I dont think you can jsut turn them off. but I gues with a single threaded task, it wouldnt matter.

lovely? · 02-04-2008, 11:29 AM

ok, i didnt know it was single threaded, i guess i didnt read well enough. well here's mine:

now if you could post yours here we will all be able to see how a different architecture, even at the same clockspeed, makes all the difference

StrangleHold · 02-04-2008, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klyla

OK, I admit I'm somewhat ignorant about this even after reading the stickies and anything else I could find on the net. I'm hoping someone here can explain this in idiot's terms to me.

My old PC had an Athlon 1.3 GHz/200 shown as the "base processor and speed". It's about 6 years old.

My new PC has an AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core Processor 5200+.

Since 64 X2 and 5200+ vs. 1.3 and 200 seem to need some translation to be in the same language, could someone explain them to me in the "same" terms and tell me just how much faster the new PC is? TIA.

The X2 5600 has 2 cores compaired to the Thunderbird Athlons one. the X2 has 2 times the amount of L2 cache on each core. The X2 has the memory controller built into the processor, the old Athlon had to work through the Northbridge chip on the motherboard to access the memory controller. Plus the X2 is faster clock for clock than the old Athlon. So if you added it all up even if the X2 only had one core and ran at the same GHZ. as the old Athlon it would still be faster

02-04-2008, 07:49 AM	#1 (permalink)
Klyla New Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 18	How much faster is my new PC? OK, I admit I'm somewhat ignorant about this even after reading the stickies and anything else I could find on the net. I'm hoping someone here can explain this in idiot's terms to me. My old PC had an Athlon 1.3 GHz/200 shown as the "base processor and speed". It's about 6 years old. My new PC has an AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core Processor 5200+. Since 64 X2 and 5200+ vs. 1.3 and 200 seem to need some translation to be in the same language, could someone explain them to me in the "same" terms and tell me just how much faster the new PC is? TIA.

02-04-2008, 08:21 AM	#2 (permalink)
Vestitor Silver Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Age: 19 Posts: 104	Well, I don't know how to explain it. I used to have a Pentium 2.2ghz then upgraded to my new system(In sig) and the boost is pretty insane. On 3DMark06 I got like 500 or so for the cpu test on my Pentium 2.2ghz and on my current rig I get about 1800-2000 depending on if I overclock it. So it is roughly 4 times faster. Speed also depends some what on memory though. Hope I helped a little. __________________ AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Brisbane 2.2GHz @ 2.84Ghz Stable (35C-58C) CPU Temp G.SKILL 2GB DDR2 800(Running as DDR2 677 at 810Mhz(405Mhz) Stable GIGABYTE GA-MA69VM-S2 AM2 SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 3870 512MB 256-bit GDDR4 hec Orion XPOWER585 ATX12V 2.01 585W Power Supply ViewSonic A90f+ 19" CRT Windows XP Professional 32bit Crysis SP Beta : 20-30fps, Everything High, 1280x1024 -----------------3DMark06 - 9306-----------------

02-04-2008, 10:35 AM	#4 (permalink)
Archangel Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Netherlands Age: 21 Posts: 8,277	you could see it as someone walking, the 1.3 ghz processor is someone taking small steps at a 1.3ghz rate, while the X2 takes much bigger steps at a 2.6ghz rate (not to mention that its basicly 2 people walking ) maybe its a stupid comparison, maybe not, but it does it for me ^^ either way, I'm fairly sure you could say the new pc is at least a 10fold faster than the old one. I think you can test this btw, that is, if you have the old pc still able to run download SuperPI run it on both pc's, and see how much longer the old pc has to calculate till its finnished than the new one (ofcourse, iirc this is a single tread, while your new pc is a dual core, this program will only use 1 core, so you 'theoretically' could run superpi twice at the same time without it taking longer, but I gues it will slow down a bit still (but definately not as much as when you'd run it twice at the same time on the old pc ) either way, i'd say give it a try. __________________ Newton is dead, Einstein is dead, I don't feel very well either Xfire - Mirrari Intel Q6600 ( @3.6GHz) Asus Triton 79 Amazing 549/3200 4x 1Gb Corsair XMS2 DDR800 Asus Maximus Formula Asus & Sapphire HD3870 512Mb ( 850/1180 ) Corsair HX620W PSU

02-04-2008, 11:18 AM	#5 (permalink)
lovely? Diamond Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: California Age: 16 Posts: 4,060	hmm hey archangel is it possible to turn off three of your four cores on your q6600? we have the same clockspeed, and im using an AMD 3400 with a little overclock, maybe we can show how the different architectures really matter __________________ E8400 @ 3.7GHZ ASUS P5K-DELUXE 4GB OCZ Reaper CL3 @ 800MHZ 3-4-4-15 eVGA 8800GT COMING: ATI 4850 OZC GameXStream 700W PSU 320GB WD Caviar SATA, 80GB WD Caviar IDE

02-04-2008, 11:23 AM	#6 (permalink)
Archangel Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Netherlands Age: 21 Posts: 8,277	I dont think you can jsut turn them off. but I gues with a single threaded task, it wouldnt matter. __________________ Newton is dead, Einstein is dead, I don't feel very well either Xfire - Mirrari Intel Q6600 ( @3.6GHz) Asus Triton 79 Amazing 549/3200 4x 1Gb Corsair XMS2 DDR800 Asus Maximus Formula Asus & Sapphire HD3870 512Mb ( 850/1180 ) Corsair HX620W PSU

02-04-2008, 08:38 AM	#3 (permalink)
hermeslyre VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 18 Posts: 4,973	The X2 has a better designed architecture, so it isn't just clockspeed difference. It goes even deeper, considering the the X2 is dual core. Most of the dudes here won't be able to tell you exactly how much of a difference there is, simply that it is a much, much better chip.

02-04-2008, 11:29 AM	#7 (permalink)
lovely? Diamond Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: California Age: 16 Posts: 4,060	ok, i didnt know it was single threaded, i guess i didnt read well enough. well here's mine: now if you could post yours here we will all be able to see how a different architecture, even at the same clockspeed, makes all the difference __________________ E8400 @ 3.7GHZ ASUS P5K-DELUXE 4GB OCZ Reaper CL3 @ 800MHZ 3-4-4-15 eVGA 8800GT COMING: ATI 4850 OZC GameXStream 700W PSU 320GB WD Caviar SATA, 80GB WD Caviar IDE

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