finalizing first build

Dan_p · 02-24-2008, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ecory

I did decide to go with the 8800GT card recommended instead of my original. I had no idea there were so many variations on the 8800. What problems are people having with the Abit IP35 Pro? It seems like it has about as many problems as other boards.

I really don't understand the difference between SLI and Crossfire (yes I did look it up on google but I'm still confused) when you say duel do you mean duel monitors, duel processors or duel vid cards? Sorry for my noob ignorance.

This is what I DO know about what I want in a system though:
-I plan on one vid card now but maybe add another in the future.
-Same with monitors.
-I never plan on overclocking.
-I'll be using this system for 3d modeling and rendering and I tend to do a lot of multitasking running multiple programs at once (eg. adobe apps, modeling programs, rendering programs, etc.)
-I need a lot of data storage and plan on 2 HDs, one for the OS and programs and one for data (or maybe one for OS and one for programs and data?).
-An auto backup system would be ideal.
-I really want to keep everything neat and organized in the case so good layout design and space compatibility is important to me.

Based on this, what would be a good alternative to the Abit IP35? The Gigabyte P35 DS3L looks like a fine board, but I don't love it.

Thanks for all the advise so far!

Crossfire and SLI are when you run 2 vid cards at the same time for better and faster grafix. SLI is for the GeForce cards like the 8600,8700,8800, and 9600's For corssfire you would use other cads that are ATI cards ( sorry for the ignorance but i dont know to meny of them )
when you look at a video card you will see someplace on them either " crossfire " or " sli " the Abit is a crossfire board. you could run 2 8800gt on it BUT you can not run them in an SLI config. you would be running them at a seprate rate the first would run at full but the second would run at only half or so.

If you want to run dule cards and have one card for a second monitor, you could look at the Nividia 780i board where you can run 2 8800gt in an SLI config and have another 8800gt run by its self for a 2nd monitor. the down side is the cost of the 780i is about 100 more then the abit ip35 also you would need some major cooling and need a BIG PSU i would go over kill and get a 1k watt just for this.

-sidenote- If this confuses you im sorry i am really hungover!

ecory · 02-25-2008, 04:34 AM

Thanks for that explanation, it really helped.

What about these mobos instead: Gigabyte GA-EP35C-DS3R / GA-EP35-DS3P. Is it worth it to get the DDR3 capability of the former? what what are the trade offs? Will they work with the 8800GT?

And what about an ATI Radeon HD 3870 card? Are any of the brands better than the others?

Edit: here are the links
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128082
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128083
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...24100+-+%24200

maroon1 · 02-25-2008, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ecory

Thanks for that explanation, it really helped.

What about these mobos instead: Gigabyte GA-EP35C-DS3R / GA-EP35-DS3P. Is it worth it to get the DDR3 capability of the former? what what are the trade offs? Will they work with the 8800GT?

8800GT can work with any motherboard that support PCI-E

EDIT: If you want to save money you can get the new 9600GT 512MB which performs on par with HD3870
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130328

Personally, I would get Nvidia video card

daisymtc · 02-25-2008, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ecory

Thanks for that explanation, it really helped.

What about these mobos instead: Gigabyte GA-EP35C-DS3R / GA-EP35-DS3P. Is it worth it to get the DDR3 capability of the former? what what are the trade offs? Will they work with the 8800GT?

And what about an ATI Radeon HD 3870 card? Are any of the brands better than the others?

Edit: here are the links
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128082
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128083
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...24100+-+%24200

DDR3 at the moment is not worth. Both board are fine for 8800GT
althernative to the above board is the slight cheaper GA-EP35-DS3R.

8800GT is better than HD3870. But HD3870 is cheaper, and if you choose the DS3P MB, you could run crossfire (although not in full speed)

P.S. I personally would get ATI/AMD card if they have similar performance/price... Don't want them to get brust.

oscaryu1 · 02-25-2008, 11:59 PM

8800GS is a great budget GFX. Really good for the price too.

The latencies of DDR3 are too high to be useful right now.

ecory · 02-27-2008, 04:09 PM

oscaryu1 · 02-28-2008, 04:44 AM

Get the P35-DS3L.

AND, none of your links work.

ecory · 02-28-2008, 07:11 AM

Fixed the links.

I need to lower my final cost so I went back again to compare the 2 boards. I may go with the P35-DS3L after all.

MosIncredible · 02-28-2008, 07:44 AM

You should. Newegg has the Rev. 1.0 as the specs but they sent me Rev. 2.0 with extra USB ports

ecory · 02-28-2008, 06:36 PM

my Ram will be more $$$ because the P35-DS3L takes DDR 1066. I'll have to get 2 gigs instead of 4. how much will my performance suffer by getting 1 2gb instead of 2 1GB so that I can more easily upgrade to 2x2 later?

02-25-2008, 04:34 AM	#12 (permalink)
ecory Bronze Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 25	Thanks for that explanation, it really helped. What about these mobos instead: Gigabyte GA-EP35C-DS3R / GA-EP35-DS3P. Is it worth it to get the DDR3 capability of the former? what what are the trade offs? Will they work with the 8800GT? And what about an ATI Radeon HD 3870 card? Are any of the brands better than the others? Edit: here are the links http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128082 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128083 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...24100+-+%24200 Last edited by ecory; 02-25-2008 at 05:23 AM.

02-25-2008, 11:59 PM	#15 (permalink)
oscaryu1 VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Age: 13 Posts: 9,856	8800GS is a great budget GFX. Really good for the price too. The latencies of DDR3 are too high to be useful right now. __________________ Core 2 Duo E2140 1.6GHz @ 3.04GHz GA-P31-DS3L pqi Turbo CL4 DDR2-800 2GB Sapphire HD3850 256MB Sony Writemaster DVD Burner EIDE Seagate Barracuda 80GB 7200.9 8MB SATII

02-27-2008, 04:09 PM	#16 (permalink)
ecory Bronze Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 25	Here's my build now Core 2 QuadQ6600 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115017 ABIT IP35 Pro http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813127030 SeaSonic M12 SS-600HM ATX12V / EPS12V 600W Power Supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817151030 GIGABYTE GV-RX387512H Radeon HD 3870 512MB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814125086 mushkin 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146693 Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 750GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148298 Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 250GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148262 Antec P182 ATX Mid Tower http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129025 ASUS 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827135156 Still need to pick out a monitor Any problems I've overlooked? All of the help so far has been great, thanks! Last edited by ecory; 02-28-2008 at 06:39 AM.

02-28-2008, 04:44 AM	#17 (permalink)
oscaryu1 VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Age: 13 Posts: 9,856	Get the P35-DS3L. AND, none of your links work. __________________ Core 2 Duo E2140 1.6GHz @ 3.04GHz GA-P31-DS3L pqi Turbo CL4 DDR2-800 2GB Sapphire HD3850 256MB Sony Writemaster DVD Burner EIDE Seagate Barracuda 80GB 7200.9 8MB SATII

02-28-2008, 07:44 AM	#19 (permalink)
MosIncredible Silver Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 194	You should. Newegg has the Rev. 1.0 as the specs but they sent me Rev. 2.0 with extra USB ports __________________ CPU: Q6600 @ 3.4GHz [425x8] 1.248v load \| E8400 HSF: Zalman 9700 (replacing soon) MB: DFI DK P35-T2RS GPU: XFX 8800GTS (G92) 512MB @ 800/1970/1100 RAM: 2GB OCZ Reaper (PC2 6400) 850 4-4-4-12 HDD: WD 500GB 16MB Case: Antec 900 PSU: OCZ 700W Monitor: LG 22" L226WTQ 3DMark06 Score: 16137 (XP) with above clocks

02-28-2008, 07:11 AM	#18 (permalink)
ecory Bronze Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 25	Fixed the links. I need to lower my final cost so I went back again to compare the 2 boards. I may go with the P35-DS3L after all.

02-28-2008, 06:36 PM	#20 (permalink)
ecory Bronze Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 25	my Ram will be more $$$ because the P35-DS3L takes DDR 1066. I'll have to get 2 gigs instead of 4. how much will my performance suffer by getting 1 2gb instead of 2 1GB so that I can more easily upgrade to 2x2 later?

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