Computer_Freak

Ok which is better.

I am leaning towards teh CM because im not a fan of Acrilic sides (retains heat for longer and my comp is not that neat inside (although i will try fix that))

Now i want something that i wont need to upgreade again, that has very good air flow and that looks good and has good cable management.

I read that you need long cables for the Antec.

Now can someone please list the pro's and con's?

ANTEC 900
Pros
Very good cooling
Price
Bottom PSU (gets cooler air)

Cons
Side panel (acrylic)
and no fan directly opposite CPU (If i have normal heatsink (not like the Zalman 9700) it helps a lot.
Small Interior
Bottom PSU (need longer cables?)
Very bad Cable management (reason why i dont want a acrylic window)

Coolermaster CM 830
Pros
Looks much nicer
Large workspace
No side window
Mesh sides (on mobo side helps cooling)
Many side fans incliding one directly opposite CPU HSF

Cons
Price ($65 more)

Now i pretty much answeres myself. But it would be nice to hear what people say.

Also can you put front fans on the CM 830 (if you remove DVD drive covers) or is there just that one front mount.

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Your facts a little off there for sure! The supply in any case sees warm air blown out the back with it's own exhaust fan. Any fan on the bottom the supply is for intake while the 900 sees little clearance at the botton where the supply goes explaining why many simply flip it over to see the bottom vent or vent/intake fan facing upward.

The 900 here sees a 120mm case fan on the side cover since that has a snap into place pair of retainers and plastic pins rather then needing to put four fasteners on. The fan is optional while some cases come with 250mm fans on the non clear side cover.

As far as cables the routing around a good size full atx model board especially with round ide cables does get a little tight right behind where you would put the optical drives as well as the upper 3 HD drive cage with a 12v 120mm on the front of each of those. The front pair there as well as the rear 120 and large top fan all use the typical 4wire molex connector you would plug into an optical, ide, or Sata 1 type drive.

The 900 being a gaming case is geared for those who run larger supplies for ocing along with gaming and want the fans running at 12v full speed not 0-5v for continuous best air flow. The larger supplies also see the extra 12v power connectors and typically a longer harness to start off with.

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just a noob

i would have to say the antec nine hundred, i'm thinking of that because the current computer i have now overheats

Kornowski

I'd go with the Antec 900, I can't imagine the cable managment being that hard, especially since the newer models come with two holes in the MOBO try already!

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thing is im also a bit of a noob at the building comps business (my first one)

Thing is my mormal case had the following temps in degrees celsius
CPU - 67
Mobo - 35
Case - 37
Hdd - 45

Now with a 8cm rear exhaust fan and a 8cm input fan (blowing only on the CPU HSF (which reminds me, how do you clean one?)
CPU - 50
Mobo - 28
Case - 29
Hdd - 45

How much better will it get?
And i want it to be future proof? meaning can the Antec do BTX form factor?

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Expect your CPU to be about 30c!

You can clean one with a can of compressed air...

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Have you considered the P182? It's a really nice case too.

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I'll try to prove the A900 is better because I've never tried the stacker.

I dunno about the stacker, but I surley love the A900.

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The stacker is an absolute great case. It would merely come down to wich looks you like better really. cooling wise, iirc they are really simmilair, both have plenty of space (well, the CM one has a bit more ^^ )

personally, I'd go with the Stacker to be honest. I like the looks better than the 900.
you can put 4 120mm fans on top of the motherboard in the side of the case, and the motherboard sist in a removable tray. (so you can screw the motherboard in place, and simply slite the tray with the motherboard on it inside the case then.)

like said, the cases are quite simmilair, with the CM one beeing bigger (and a bit more feats). both are good cases, so its up to what you like best

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What i mean there is no fan DIRECTLY opposite the CPU HSF is that exactly. With my comp now i dropped the temps by 15c just by blowing air DIRECTLY on the CPU HSF.

cool well i am using a stock Heatsink.

Depending on teh case ill get ill get a Zalman 9700 or a Thermaltake Blue Orb.

I think ill go Coolermaster (less modding, better cable management) and it can go BTX form factor (for the future)

For its price has anyone tried the Coolermaster CM 690?

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● Biostar Tforce 965PT
● 2x1Gb DDR2 800 RAM CL6 @ 942mhz
● GeCube ATI X1650 Pro 256MB (soon an ATI 4870)
● Huntkey DH power 500w (Can my PSU handle a ATI 4870?)
● Standard Case, 2 fans

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