Vista Complete PC Backup error 0x80780048

Steve Mavronis · 03-12-2008, 01:16 AM

I'm running Vista Ultimate 32bit and I'm trying to do another Complete PC
Backup to an external 500gb USB drive and I'm getting error (0x80780048) due
to not enough free space left on the backup drive. The screen before says,
if there is not enough free space it will start deleting prior backups
starting with the oldest. This does not seem to be the case as advertised! I
do scheduled regular data backups once a week and every month or so I also
do a manual Complete PC Backup. Is my only resort to reformat my external
500gb backup drive and start over with a fresh complete pc backup until the
drive fills up again? I thought this was a cool feature with Vista Ultimate
(which made me buy it over the Premium edition) but it does not
automatically delete the oldest backups to make room?

PC eye · 03-12-2008, 01:22 AM

Home Premium also has the complete backup and no it will simply add to the existing backups not remove those on it's own. A complete backup copies everything in sight on your drive for the most part chewing up drive space on whatever drive or partition the backup will go to.

Steve Mavronis · 03-12-2008, 01:28 AM

I know thats the problem. But the screen before the error clearly says: "If there is not enough space on the disk, one or more of the older backups will be discarded, starting with the oldest." Its just not doing what it says will happen. I could probably reformat the external hard drive and then it would work. But this is just bugging me because it should delete the oldest backup and run fine!

PC eye · 03-12-2008, 02:37 AM

Apparently it's not where you need to look over the oldest and manually remove that until resolved if you need to see an immediate backup at this time. I saw your thread at http://www.vistax64.com/vista-file-m...ugh-space.html

And at http://www.eggheadcafe.com/software/...pc-backup.aspx

Apparently someone else in the same predictament on the Vista forum found one solution when advised to use Acronis True Image and abandon the Vista tool. The product page is seen at http://eu.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage/

That was moved to the resolved topics section there apparently. Personally I backup as I go along rather then trying to backup an entire drive all at once. It not only saves on time but when downloading anything new like an update I will have it on the usb drive here as well as on the Vista or XP drive for ready access.

Steve Mavronis · 03-12-2008, 03:07 PM

Yeah their resolved topics solution was to use Acronis. We use Acronis imaging at work so I know all about it. I just want Vista Ultimate's Compete PC Backup to work as advertised. I guess it will just be easier to reformat (ntfs) my external backup drive and start over fresh with a new complete backup. I hope this is fixed with the first Vista service pack. I've search everywhere and all people say is manually delete the older backups to make space. This is bogus as its only a workaround, not a fix. Even at Microsoft's knowledge base and support newsgroups no one has a solution. The error code isn't even listed at Microsoft!

PC eye · 03-12-2008, 10:56 PM

When first trying the backup feature here on the 32bit edition of Home Premium I simply shook my head and have since made manual backups. I simply created a list of folders for various file types and save anything to those on the main drive and external simultaneously in case of reformatting or while waiting to create data dvds.

The beta for SP1 is out while the wait continues for the final version of that. I don't get along too well with betas however. The beta version of IE 8 seems a bit more buggy then seen for IE 7 when that was first seen.

The best thing to do rather then simply wiping the previous backups would be to look over what has changed between each to see what files should be manually backed up for safe keeping. It can be a little tedious at times but saves on hassles like a bug in the new version of Windows being realized.

Steve Mavronis · 03-13-2008, 12:28 AM

I also run the Vista File Backup too for just my data files, scheduled once a week. That is working fine. The Vista Complete PC Backup image is only for an emergency restore so everything is put back at once, applications and data, with all my custom configuration settings intact.

I know I could go with a 3rd party solution to do the same thing like Acronis. I'm just hoping Microsoft fixes the Complete PC Backup filled drive issue or take the blurb out saying it will delete the oldest backups to make room! It's easy to reformat the external backup drive as a workaround and start over but that's not the same as to work as advertised.

PC eye · 03-13-2008, 01:30 AM

Tell me about it! For custom installing Windows here for dual and multibooting lately I was hoping to see one good full backup until seeing all the clutter that goes long with all of the files and folders compressed into an archive.

I elected to manually go through the various folders for what was needed and simply unplugged one drive when creating the custom installation on the replacement drive and later copy+paste... copy+paste... copy+...

The basics are to simply go with what does work and ignore the advertised hype! Being the new kid on the street Vista still needs some bugs worked out like all previous versions saw. When you get stuck their tech support gets a call for a charge there.

keokani · 04-28-2008, 02:39 AM

Today, I ran into this same problem on my 64-bit version of Vista. It still appears that nobody has yet stepped in with the final solution. Across the internet, Steve Mavronis is the lead investigator of this issue. However, I have yet to see a follow up by him or anyone else with a final solution.

It looks like my backup and restore center deleted the oldest backup, but the backup center still thinks it is there, because it still displays the oldest backup. Perhaps this is part of the problem.

Can anyone help?

03-12-2008, 01:16 AM	#1 (permalink)
Steve Mavronis Bronze Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Maryland, USA Age: 49 Posts: 32	Vista Complete PC Backup error 0x80780048 I'm running Vista Ultimate 32bit and I'm trying to do another Complete PC Backup to an external 500gb USB drive and I'm getting error (0x80780048) due to not enough free space left on the backup drive. The screen before says, if there is not enough free space it will start deleting prior backups starting with the oldest. This does not seem to be the case as advertised! I do scheduled regular data backups once a week and every month or so I also do a manual Complete PC Backup. Is my only resort to reformat my external 500gb backup drive and start over with a fresh complete pc backup until the drive fills up again? I thought this was a cool feature with Vista Ultimate (which made me buy it over the Premium edition) but it does not automatically delete the oldest backups to make room? Last edited by Steve Mavronis; 03-12-2008 at 01:17 AM. Reason: Title change

03-12-2008, 01:22 AM	#2 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 19,005	Home Premium also has the complete backup and no it will simply add to the existing backups not remove those on it's own. A complete backup copies everything in sight on your drive for the most part chewing up drive space on whatever drive or partition the backup will go to. __________________ Youtube falls short of Google's expectations http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Ahe...ory?id=5336532 Congress studies how people track your online use http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Ahe...ory?id=5337932

03-12-2008, 01:28 AM	#3 (permalink)
Steve Mavronis Bronze Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Maryland, USA Age: 49 Posts: 32	I know thats the problem. But the screen before the error clearly says: "If there is not enough space on the disk, one or more of the older backups will be discarded, starting with the oldest." Its just not doing what it says will happen. I could probably reformat the external hard drive and then it would work. But this is just bugging me because it should delete the oldest backup and run fine! __________________ Gateway FX530, Windows Vista Ultimate 32-bit SP1, Intel Q6600 2.4ghz Core 2 Quad CPU, 4gb RAM, 500gb RAID-0 HD, 700w Power Supply, Nvidia 8800GTX 768mb GPU (OC), 22" Widescreen 1680x1050 LCD, Asus/ViXS Combo-210E TV Tuner, Creative SoundBlaster X-FI Audio, Logitech MX518 Gaming Mouse, Logitech Premium Stereo Headset, Lacie 500gb USB HD Last edited by Steve Mavronis; 03-12-2008 at 01:34 AM. Reason: quoted text

03-12-2008, 02:37 AM	#4 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 19,005	Apparently it's not where you need to look over the oldest and manually remove that until resolved if you need to see an immediate backup at this time. I saw your thread at http://www.vistax64.com/vista-file-m...ugh-space.html And at http://www.eggheadcafe.com/software/...pc-backup.aspx Apparently someone else in the same predictament on the Vista forum found one solution when advised to use Acronis True Image and abandon the Vista tool. The product page is seen at http://eu.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage/ That was moved to the resolved topics section there apparently. Personally I backup as I go along rather then trying to backup an entire drive all at once. It not only saves on time but when downloading anything new like an update I will have it on the usb drive here as well as on the Vista or XP drive for ready access. __________________ Youtube falls short of Google's expectations http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Ahe...ory?id=5336532 Congress studies how people track your online use http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Ahe...ory?id=5337932

03-12-2008, 03:07 PM	#5 (permalink)
Steve Mavronis Bronze Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Maryland, USA Age: 49 Posts: 32	Yeah their resolved topics solution was to use Acronis. We use Acronis imaging at work so I know all about it. I just want Vista Ultimate's Compete PC Backup to work as advertised. I guess it will just be easier to reformat (ntfs) my external backup drive and start over fresh with a new complete backup. I hope this is fixed with the first Vista service pack. I've search everywhere and all people say is manually delete the older backups to make space. This is bogus as its only a workaround, not a fix. Even at Microsoft's knowledge base and support newsgroups no one has a solution. The error code isn't even listed at Microsoft! __________________ Gateway FX530, Windows Vista Ultimate 32-bit SP1, Intel Q6600 2.4ghz Core 2 Quad CPU, 4gb RAM, 500gb RAID-0 HD, 700w Power Supply, Nvidia 8800GTX 768mb GPU (OC), 22" Widescreen 1680x1050 LCD, Asus/ViXS Combo-210E TV Tuner, Creative SoundBlaster X-FI Audio, Logitech MX518 Gaming Mouse, Logitech Premium Stereo Headset, Lacie 500gb USB HD

03-12-2008, 10:56 PM	#6 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 19,005	When first trying the backup feature here on the 32bit edition of Home Premium I simply shook my head and have since made manual backups. I simply created a list of folders for various file types and save anything to those on the main drive and external simultaneously in case of reformatting or while waiting to create data dvds. The beta for SP1 is out while the wait continues for the final version of that. I don't get along too well with betas however. The beta version of IE 8 seems a bit more buggy then seen for IE 7 when that was first seen. The best thing to do rather then simply wiping the previous backups would be to look over what has changed between each to see what files should be manually backed up for safe keeping. It can be a little tedious at times but saves on hassles like a bug in the new version of Windows being realized. __________________ Youtube falls short of Google's expectations http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Ahe...ory?id=5336532 Congress studies how people track your online use http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Ahe...ory?id=5337932

03-13-2008, 12:28 AM	#7 (permalink)
Steve Mavronis Bronze Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Maryland, USA Age: 49 Posts: 32	I also run the Vista File Backup too for just my data files, scheduled once a week. That is working fine. The Vista Complete PC Backup image is only for an emergency restore so everything is put back at once, applications and data, with all my custom configuration settings intact. I know I could go with a 3rd party solution to do the same thing like Acronis. I'm just hoping Microsoft fixes the Complete PC Backup filled drive issue or take the blurb out saying it will delete the oldest backups to make room! It's easy to reformat the external backup drive as a workaround and start over but that's not the same as to work as advertised. __________________ Gateway FX530, Windows Vista Ultimate 32-bit SP1, Intel Q6600 2.4ghz Core 2 Quad CPU, 4gb RAM, 500gb RAID-0 HD, 700w Power Supply, Nvidia 8800GTX 768mb GPU (OC), 22" Widescreen 1680x1050 LCD, Asus/ViXS Combo-210E TV Tuner, Creative SoundBlaster X-FI Audio, Logitech MX518 Gaming Mouse, Logitech Premium Stereo Headset, Lacie 500gb USB HD

03-13-2008, 01:30 AM	#8 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 19,005	Tell me about it! For custom installing Windows here for dual and multibooting lately I was hoping to see one good full backup until seeing all the clutter that goes long with all of the files and folders compressed into an archive. I elected to manually go through the various folders for what was needed and simply unplugged one drive when creating the custom installation on the replacement drive and later copy+paste... copy+paste... copy+... The basics are to simply go with what does work and ignore the advertised hype! Being the new kid on the street Vista still needs some bugs worked out like all previous versions saw. When you get stuck their tech support gets a call for a charge there. __________________ Youtube falls short of Google's expectations http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Ahe...ory?id=5336532 Congress studies how people track your online use http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Ahe...ory?id=5337932

04-28-2008, 02:39 AM	#9 (permalink)
keokani New Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1	The backup failed ... (0x80780048) Today, I ran into this same problem on my 64-bit version of Vista. It still appears that nobody has yet stepped in with the final solution. Across the internet, Steve Mavronis is the lead investigator of this issue. However, I have yet to see a follow up by him or anyone else with a final solution. It looks like my backup and restore center deleted the oldest backup, but the backup center still thinks it is there, because it still displays the oldest backup. Perhaps this is part of the problem. Can anyone help?

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