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Old 03-16-2008, 04:42 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Old 03-16-2008, 05:25 AM   #32 (permalink)
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I did answer the question but you as usual never bothered to "listen" which is nothing new for you either.

As explained earlier the entire usb section was yellowed out on a fresh install of XP when that was seeing a custom later being reinstalled all over to see that corrected. Couldn't get online with the usb host controllers out but the external drive was still seen as a logical without even reinstalling the WD software.

Figure it out yet? When reformatting the original Fat32 to NTFS the software and auto run is no longer if you have it plugged into a working usb port or the usb bus sees at least 1000uA meeting the minimum requirement. Is it that difficult for you to figure out?

Windows then readily sees the drive as simply another sata model just like the bios recognises it right off. With the clean install of XP Windows didn't have time to even see the usbstor.sys be installed as the auto run popup prior to the installer was busy while the drive was seen in Windows Explorer upon reaching the desktop. Had to fight to close those out when they persisted since the drive was already a logical drive.

Ok, I really read that 2 times. I didnt listen to it since theres no sound. But I,ll tell ya PCeye I cant see a thing in there that tells me how reinstalling your USB drivers and deleteing old USB device drivers will (TRASH) windows. If you would kindly point out what part of that post or any other that explains it.
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Old 03-16-2008, 06:11 AM   #33 (permalink)
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I smell a fresh load of feces.. *sniff* *sniff*

Any fresh install of XP detects the USB ports and installs them. The only exception is pre-sp2 on USB2.0 controllers. Then again, this is Flinstone we're talking about here.

AND.. If Freddy did use an archaic version of XP on USB2.0 controllers, they would STILL work although they would indeed have the yellow !. They would simply work as USB 1.0 controllers.
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Another thread trashed by the two that only know how to do one thing.

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I guess it all depends on one's definition of what denotes a trashed thread.

BS masquerading as "advice", misdirection, lack of knowledge, google hacks, irrelevant images, confusing, irrelevant blather and mumbo jumbo.... Or being called on your crap and having you dodge, duck and dive?

Tough call.
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Another thread trashed by the two that only know how to do one thing.

Like said above. Whos really Trashing threads here. These 2 posts should give you a good idea!
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Well this thread is a peice of work.

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The same "USB device not recognized" message also occurs with mice, USB keyboards, etc. Resetting the computer by pulling the power from it for five minutes is a well documented trick to resetting the USB ports.
I usually just pull it out and plug it back in once the new hardware bubbles stop popping up.

We don't know if the drive is spinning up or not on the second machine, it's possible it's not able to draw enough power from the USB port. To know for sure we'd need to hear back from Pauly73Drifter.

Reinstalling the USB hub drivers (ie uninstall & then install again) wont damage a windows installation unless there are other problems. All your USB devices will redetect. Now if you only have a USB keyboard/mouse it might get a little dicey although I'm pretty sure it's still possible, I can't remember the exact process for windows to install hub drivers (whether you have to click through menus or not).
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Well this thread is a peice of work.

I usually just pull it out and plug it back in once the new hardware bubbles stop popping up.
Often that works, but not always. I've worked on machines where that didn't work. Deleting the USB device entries, pulling the power from the machine for five minutes, powering it back up and letting Windows reinstall whatever devices still present did work. Lexmark and Canon printers were especially problematic.

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We don't know if the drive is spinning up or not on the second machine, it's possible it's not able to draw enough power from the USB port. To know for sure we'd need to hear back from Pauly73Drifter.
True enough, it would help to know if he plugged both USB connectors in or just one. I guess the assumption I made is that he followed the directions and plugged both in.

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Reinstalling the USB hub drivers (ie uninstall & then install again) wont damage a windows installation unless there are other problems. All your USB devices will redetect. Now if you only have a USB keyboard/mouse it might get a little dicey although I'm pretty sure it's still possible, I can't remember the exact process for windows to install hub drivers (whether you have to click through menus or not).
To reinstall hub drivers, you delete the USB hub drivers out of the device manager, then let the DM search for new hardware under the Action menu (or from the right click context menu).

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And if someone lacking experience is told to and goes ahead and uninstalls other things in the DM by mistake?

oregon had one smart suggestion earlier about seeing if the usb port was the problem. Trying another device on the same port would tell if that was the problem.

Another thing the OP would have to provide is the age of the system with the ide type drive. If too old the bus simply won't support the 1000uA requirement where the additional usb booster would be needed.
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*Love is in the air* Wooo wooo

If there wasn't so much tension in this thread maybe the poster would actually give us a reply an we can get somewhere prehaps?!
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