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03-14-2008, 08:34 AM
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My noob 3rd attempt at building a computer!
My first attempt was like, and intel MB and a amd CPU, and all kinds of stuff that wouldnt fit together. My second is close to the one i am going to list here but i think slightly worse for about the same amount of money (both came out to 2k)
Im hoping that this would be good enough to run any game, even crysis! My plan is to buy an entire computer, (since the only thing i have is a laptop) But im in the military and deployed and there is almost no way for me to get a little extra help in building a computer from either forums (most are blocked on our internet, and i bet this one will be blocked soon so i need info quick! lol) or from people i know who know alot about computers (and i know one, and he isnt the greatest). Anyways, here it is. Any suggestions on making it cheaper without making it worse, or for improving it without making it too much more expensive. My max is probably about $3k but i thought my setup here was pretty spiffy. COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-WW Black/Silver Aluminum Bezel, SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail MSI P35 Platinum Combo LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail BFG Tech BFGR88768GTXOC2E GeForce 8800GTX 768MB 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail hec Zephyr 650 ATX12V 650W Power Supply - Retail Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 Conroe 3.0GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80557E6850 - Retail CORSAIR 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN3X2048-1333C9 - Retail Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250410AS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM Plus a mouse keyboard monitor and cd rom, but theres no point in putting those on here. Anyways, the entire thing comes out to $1,983 Some afterthoughts on this. Originally i had a quad core processor that ran at 2.4 ghz, but i figured quad core is not utilized too much yet, so i figured ill get the dual core with 3.0 ghz. They both cost the same though, and im really not sure at all whats faster or better or what. Also with the memory, i had 4gigs of ddr2 memory, but i figured do i really need 4 gigs? So i changed it to 2 gigs of ddr3 memory which is apparently at least 200% better than ddr2 so i figure that also is a good upgrade. And lastly, the video card. From what i have read the 8800 geforce ultra is the best, with the gtx slightly behind it. I originally had 2 9600 gts's but then i found out that it is not as good as the 8800 gtx. Well if i have the 9600's in sli, will they be better than one 8800 gtx? If so, would it be smarter to get two 8800 gtx's instead? I know it costs alot more though, but just for performance purposes per se. And lastly lastly last, do i need more cooling? Like water cooling. Is that something i would have to see when i put my computer together and then make that decision, or can you tell from just what i have here if i would need better cooling or not? Well thanks alot in advance for any help i can get from you guys and gals! Sorry for the large wall of text to read  ^_^
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03-14-2008, 09:42 AM
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hear ill just throw a whole new build at u. there is not realy a notasable difference between DDR2 an DDR3.
CPU $249.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115037 MOBO $269.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128326 Ram $244 get 2 of these $244 x 2 = $488 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145165 Case $154.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811133021 PSU $209.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817341003 Video card $419.42 you could get 1 more of these if u want. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16814121228R HDD (1) $69.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136055 HDD (2) $129.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136040 HDD (3) $129.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136040 Cooling $299.99 if u want a realy good water cooling http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16835118032R including the water cooling this comes to $2422.34. it's a lot better than the build u have.
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03-14-2008, 09:45 AM
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There is no point getting a zalman water cooling kit, they are NOT good, and the poster doesnt realy need water cooling either ?
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03-14-2008, 09:56 AM
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i just put it in cos he said he might want it.
are them kits not so good ea?
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03-14-2008, 11:44 AM
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I recommend this video card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127325 It performs very well and it comes with a free game |
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03-15-2008, 12:27 AM
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1) E8400... that's in a 1 grand budget. He has 3  2) $500 for 4GB of RAM? LOL! That's CL3, with one cas of 4... what a rip.. 3) A 700W would power that rig fine, and still have lotsa room to upgrade. 4) 8800GTS G92 is cheaper and faster than the GTX. Look up the MSI 8800GTS G92, it's $215 after rebates.
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03-15-2008, 01:23 AM
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Wow ty for the info. I think I'll change my graphics card to the 8800gts g92 version, two of those I think ^_^. Hmm im not sure on the memory still. The one Reddevil listed looks good because of the very low latencies but Oscaryu said its a rip! oh no's!! Lol, so I'm still unsure of the memory. What others would anybody suggest?
As for the CPU, what would you suggest Oscaryu (or anybody). The one that Reddevil listed looks nice because of the 45nm and 3.0 ghz, but i dont know anything about what the "E8400" means. Also maybe a good quad core? Any other upgrade suggestions? I was thinking that the 8800gtx was the best out there and i researched the gts g92 version and saw that its better. So any other helpfull tips like that would be appreciated! ^_^ When it comes to harddrives, i dont really need very many. I pretty much only collect music, and i put all that stuff on external harddrives since i get deployed i need my music to be able to follow me everywhere.
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03-15-2008, 04:17 AM
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If you want two, you'll need the 780i.
Q9650... if not over your budget... E8400 is a 45nm dual core processor. The QX9650 is the best 45nm Quad core out in the market. GTS G92 is your best bet... Get a Raptor for the main drive, and a 500GB Western Digital/Seagate HDD for storing files on.
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03-15-2008, 04:44 AM
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03-15-2008, 06:14 AM
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I see alot of people saying they need a better processor to meet thier memory, or better memory to meet thier processor, or better mother board and such. What would be a good memory to match my processor? Edit: I wont be able to buy this for 3 months till i get home. I hear (or read) that there is a new video card coming out which i might put in instead. Does anybody know of any other interesting things coming out soon that i might want to choose instead of what is out now? Edit:Edit: When i say my noob 3rd attempt at building a computer, i mean my third wishlist. I havent actually bought 2 computer already incase anybody was thinking that lol.
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