No sleep mode in Vista?

Cyos · 04-26-2008, 08:53 PM

g25racer: I'm not at home this weekend, so I'll try unplugging my mouse and keyboard when I get back on Sunday. Thank you very much for your response, though - I honestly thought I was out of luck.

2048Megabytes: I tried using hibernate, but got the same results as with sleep. At this point, I've tinkered with pretty much every setting there is, I think. Asus tech support even had me working in the registry, of all places. Do your results occur in both Vista and openSuse Linux? Just curious as to whether this is a hardware of software problem.

Thanks for the ideas!

oscaryu1 · 04-27-2008, 12:57 AM

Try updating drivers... are you using XP or Vista drivers for the GTS?

Cyos · 04-27-2008, 05:00 PM

I'm using the very latest 32-bit Vista drivers for everything - graphics card, chipset, mouse and keyboard (assuming you consider Logitech Setpoint a driver), and printer. Like I said, I even took the risk of updating my BIOS. I'll be back at my home PC in a few hours - I'm going to try unplugging everything USB, and attempting sleep mode using a PS/2 mouse and/or keyboard. If that works, I'll start plugging things back in until I know what the culprit is - at which point, I'll know exactly who to send my complaints to.

oscaryu1 · 04-27-2008, 09:57 PM

If everything is installed and works fine, then it should fall off to sleep with no problem.

Have you tried hibernate?

Cyos · 04-28-2008, 02:07 AM

Yes, I did try hibernate. No luck.

Anyway, I'm back home, and I tried a few things. What I'm going to type here will probably appear bizarre and even farfetched, but I swear to you that every word of it is true. I think I'm on the right track now. Also, sorry for the wall of text; I wanted to be a thorough as I could. So here we go.

First off, let me start with what all is connected to my PC. The four USB slots on my motherboard hold my wireless mouse dongle, connection to the base for my wireless keyboard, USB wireless dongle, and Sandisk Sansa mp3 player cable. My firewire port connects to a Maxtor external hard drive; I don't leave it on though, I only turn it on when I need to do a backup. I also have an expansion card with two other USB ports. One connects to my printer, the other to my four-way USB splitter.

So I unplug all of these, every last one (except the monitor and power cords, of course). Just as I'm about to yank the connection to my keyboard, I hit the sleep button. A few seconds later, for the first time in months, my computer was sleeping.

Naturally I was ecstatic. I wake it back up reconnecting everything. My plan was to start by yanking the things I didn't need - the splitter, printer cable, and firewire cord (mouse, keyboard, wi-fi, and Sansa cable still plugged in, for those who don't want to keep track

). Again, miraculously, it slept. Splitter and printer plugged back in, now only firewire cable detached. It still sleeps! Plug the firewire cable back in... still sleeps! Now I'm scratching my head. My computer is in the same configuration that, in 8 months, has only allowed it to sleep four or five times, total. I try it three more times, sleeping and waking flawlessly. I'm speechless, but hey, I was sure not going to complain.

Before I posted of my great victory over any logic I could think of, I decided to restart. Nothing unplugged, I just wanted to see if it would still work, or if I would have to do this every time. I log back in, hit sleep. The lights blink out... and then come back on. Uh oh. The monitor doesn't. Five or so seconds of panic later, a BSOD greets me. The error message was thus: "Attempt to reset the display driver and recover from timeout failed".

What. The. Fudgecake. I just proved that the "display driver" had nothing to do with this! After I finished tearing my hair out while waiting for Vista to start back up, I unplugged the firewire again. Apparently, I'm back to square one; the lights go dark for a split second, and then everything starts back up. There's one subtle difference now - the monitor takes longer than usual to start up, just like it did before the BSOD. I don't actually get a BSOD, and everything does, in good time, come back. But really... what the devil is going on here? I'm a pretty good problem solver, but frankly this doesn't make sense.

Anyway, thanks a ton for reading, and a ton more for any help you can give. Me, I'm going to try different USB / firewire combinations. I will get this working... logic or no logic.

UPDATE: Okay, through the process of elimination, I have narrowed it down to my keyboard. It's an old wireless Logitech thing... I love it, and it's served me well for a year and a half... I'll hunt down the model number later. Still, though, I think I see a new keyboard in my future.

Cyos · 04-29-2008, 12:44 AM

Okay, quick progress update.

g25racer, you are awesome. It was my keyboard - for some reason, Vista doesn't seem to like it when I use it with USB; I just used a USB-to-PS/2 adapter, and boom, works just fine. To think, all that time, a USB keyboard was the problem!

Anyway, I now have a new problem. If my make my computer sleep for more than fifteen or twenty minutes, when I wake it back up, it BSODs with the complaint "Attempt to reset the display driver and recover from timeout failed". Vista's so called solution was for me to update my drivers. Been there, done that, about five times.

So it seems I've solved my computer's insomnia... only to give it nightmares.

Any ideas?

oscaryu1 · 04-29-2008, 01:40 AM

Are your drivers specifically made for Vista?

Try using an older version of that driver.

04-26-2008, 08:53 PM	#11 (permalink)
Cyos Bronze Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 56	g25racer: I'm not at home this weekend, so I'll try unplugging my mouse and keyboard when I get back on Sunday. Thank you very much for your response, though - I honestly thought I was out of luck. 2048Megabytes: I tried using hibernate, but got the same results as with sleep. At this point, I've tinkered with pretty much every setting there is, I think. Asus tech support even had me working in the registry, of all places. Do your results occur in both Vista and openSuse Linux? Just curious as to whether this is a hardware of software problem. Thanks for the ideas! __________________ Mobo: ASUS P5N SLI CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 RAM: 2 GB Corsair Dominator 1066 MHz HDD: Raptor 150GB + Seagate 320GB SATA GFX: EVGA 8800 GTS 640 MB OS: Windows Vista Home Premium 32-bit w/ SP1

04-27-2008, 12:57 AM	#12 (permalink)
oscaryu1 VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Age: 13 Posts: 9,694	Try updating drivers... are you using XP or Vista drivers for the GTS? __________________ Core 2 Duo E2140 1.6GHz @ 3.04GHz GA-P31-DS3L pqi Turbo CL4 DDR2-800 2GB Sapphire HD3850 256MB Sony Writemaster DVD Burner EIDE Seagate Barracuda 80GB 7200.9 8MB SATII

04-27-2008, 05:00 PM	#13 (permalink)
Cyos Bronze Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 56	I'm using the very latest 32-bit Vista drivers for everything - graphics card, chipset, mouse and keyboard (assuming you consider Logitech Setpoint a driver), and printer. Like I said, I even took the risk of updating my BIOS. I'll be back at my home PC in a few hours - I'm going to try unplugging everything USB, and attempting sleep mode using a PS/2 mouse and/or keyboard. If that works, I'll start plugging things back in until I know what the culprit is - at which point, I'll know exactly who to send my complaints to. __________________ Mobo: ASUS P5N SLI CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 RAM: 2 GB Corsair Dominator 1066 MHz HDD: Raptor 150GB + Seagate 320GB SATA GFX: EVGA 8800 GTS 640 MB OS: Windows Vista Home Premium 32-bit w/ SP1

04-27-2008, 09:57 PM	#14 (permalink)
oscaryu1 VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Age: 13 Posts: 9,694	If everything is installed and works fine, then it should fall off to sleep with no problem. Have you tried hibernate? __________________ Core 2 Duo E2140 1.6GHz @ 3.04GHz GA-P31-DS3L pqi Turbo CL4 DDR2-800 2GB Sapphire HD3850 256MB Sony Writemaster DVD Burner EIDE Seagate Barracuda 80GB 7200.9 8MB SATII

04-28-2008, 02:07 AM	#15 (permalink)
Cyos Bronze Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 56	Yes, I did try hibernate. No luck. Anyway, I'm back home, and I tried a few things. What I'm going to type here will probably appear bizarre and even farfetched, but I swear to you that every word of it is true. I think I'm on the right track now. Also, sorry for the wall of text; I wanted to be a thorough as I could. So here we go. First off, let me start with what all is connected to my PC. The four USB slots on my motherboard hold my wireless mouse dongle, connection to the base for my wireless keyboard, USB wireless dongle, and Sandisk Sansa mp3 player cable. My firewire port connects to a Maxtor external hard drive; I don't leave it on though, I only turn it on when I need to do a backup. I also have an expansion card with two other USB ports. One connects to my printer, the other to my four-way USB splitter. So I unplug all of these, every last one (except the monitor and power cords, of course). Just as I'm about to yank the connection to my keyboard, I hit the sleep button. A few seconds later, for the first time in months, my computer was sleeping. Naturally I was ecstatic. I wake it back up reconnecting everything. My plan was to start by yanking the things I didn't need - the splitter, printer cable, and firewire cord (mouse, keyboard, wi-fi, and Sansa cable still plugged in, for those who don't want to keep track ). Again, miraculously, it slept. Splitter and printer plugged back in, now only firewire cable detached. It still sleeps! Plug the firewire cable back in... still sleeps! Now I'm scratching my head. My computer is in the same configuration that, in 8 months, has only allowed it to sleep four or five times, total. I try it three more times, sleeping and waking flawlessly. I'm speechless, but hey, I was sure not going to complain. Before I posted of my great victory over any logic I could think of, I decided to restart. Nothing unplugged, I just wanted to see if it would still work, or if I would have to do this every time. I log back in, hit sleep. The lights blink out... and then come back on. Uh oh. The monitor doesn't. Five or so seconds of panic later, a BSOD greets me. The error message was thus: "Attempt to reset the display driver and recover from timeout failed". What. The. Fudgecake. I just proved that the "display driver" had nothing to do with this! After I finished tearing my hair out while waiting for Vista to start back up, I unplugged the firewire again. Apparently, I'm back to square one; the lights go dark for a split second, and then everything starts back up. There's one subtle difference now - the monitor takes longer than usual to start up, just like it did before the BSOD. I don't actually get a BSOD, and everything does, in good time, come back. But really... what the devil is going on here? I'm a pretty good problem solver, but frankly this doesn't make sense. Anyway, thanks a ton for reading, and a ton more for any help you can give. Me, I'm going to try different USB / firewire combinations. I will get this working... logic or no logic. UPDATE: Okay, through the process of elimination, I have narrowed it down to my keyboard. It's an old wireless Logitech thing... I love it, and it's served me well for a year and a half... I'll hunt down the model number later. Still, though, I think I see a new keyboard in my future. __________________ Mobo: ASUS P5N SLI CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 RAM: 2 GB Corsair Dominator 1066 MHz HDD: Raptor 150GB + Seagate 320GB SATA GFX: EVGA 8800 GTS 640 MB OS: Windows Vista Home Premium 32-bit w/ SP1 Last edited by Cyos; 04-28-2008 at 03:27 AM. Reason: Update on situation.

04-29-2008, 12:44 AM	#16 (permalink)
Cyos Bronze Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 56	Okay, quick progress update. g25racer, you are awesome. It was my keyboard - for some reason, Vista doesn't seem to like it when I use it with USB; I just used a USB-to-PS/2 adapter, and boom, works just fine. To think, all that time, a USB keyboard was the problem! Anyway, I now have a new problem. If my make my computer sleep for more than fifteen or twenty minutes, when I wake it back up, it BSODs with the complaint "Attempt to reset the display driver and recover from timeout failed". Vista's so called solution was for me to update my drivers. Been there, done that, about five times. So it seems I've solved my computer's insomnia... only to give it nightmares. Any ideas? __________________ Mobo: ASUS P5N SLI CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 RAM: 2 GB Corsair Dominator 1066 MHz HDD: Raptor 150GB + Seagate 320GB SATA GFX: EVGA 8800 GTS 640 MB OS: Windows Vista Home Premium 32-bit w/ SP1

04-29-2008, 01:40 AM	#17 (permalink)
oscaryu1 VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Age: 13 Posts: 9,694	Are your drivers specifically made for Vista? Try using an older version of that driver. __________________ Core 2 Duo E2140 1.6GHz @ 3.04GHz GA-P31-DS3L pqi Turbo CL4 DDR2-800 2GB Sapphire HD3850 256MB Sony Writemaster DVD Burner EIDE Seagate Barracuda 80GB 7200.9 8MB SATII

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