Intel? AMD? Help!?

aviation_man · 03-27-2008, 02:54 AM

well ya know that AMD came out with the 64BIT processor first, which is way faster then the 32BIT of course. So AMD might have a little more experience with that. I also dont know which one to pick, but i might go with Intel.

SirKenin · 03-27-2008, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TacoShack

ah really its way slow then intel geezs ;l
i just saw this video on youtube where the person took the fan off an intel processor and it didnt smoke or anything it was fine then they did it to a amd and it smoked and burnt out ;l man i thought i could of saved 100 dollars but no wonder amd is cheap i mean my intel celeron is running vista right now hard to belive LOL and this comp is 7 years old

my budget for cpu prob 100-150

That's actually right on the money. I have two burned out X2s here. Went up in smoke, even with the fans on them. Intel will clock themselves back when they overheat, or they'll shut down. AMD? *sizzle* *sizzle*.

Really, there's no comparison. People want something for nothing, or at least get the illusion they're getting something for nothing. Most people that preach AMD have no clue where AMD excels and where it doesn't.

AMD X2s have one strength... Megaflops. This has an extremely limited practical application. I do have a client that needs that, and thus for him I designed a stellar AMD system.

Otherwise? They're hopeless. I have another dead AMD X2 sitting here at my feet... And the other one at my feet was an X2 Compaq that went up in smoke.. I rebuilt it with Intel/Asus.

SirKenin · 03-27-2008, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by aviation_man

well ya know that AMD came out with the 64BIT processor first, which is way faster then the 32BIT of course. So AMD might have a little more experience with that. I also dont know which one to pick, but i might go with Intel.

64 bit way faster than an equivalent 32 bit? Ooooookkkk.... Now we know how AMD manages to sell CPUs.. Much of their clientelle knows hopelessly little about computers.

Mtag · 03-27-2008, 03:28 AM

Wow!!! People sure are loyal to their brand. Everyone knows that Intel is faster than AMD clock for clock (2.4ghz Intel vs. 2.4ghz AMD). However, AMD has priced their processors to match up with a comparable Intel chip in that price range. This is the only way AMD can compete at the moment.

PC eye · 03-27-2008, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Vizy93

ok to be honest, no1 is going to run cpu's without the heatsink so this proves nothing. Just like if u buy a car because it has a built in parachute. WHO THE HELL CARES???? IT DOESNT DO ANYTHING!!! i saw the same vid, and they were running a game (???). with that budget, get an AMD.
pceye has a pt, depends what u want. im not against intels or anything. all my previous comps were intel based. so by all means go that way. just dont do it because it apparently 'kicks AMD's ass'. i knw intels are prob better, i did my fair share of rsrch b4 i decided to buy AMD, but do i regret it?

hell naw

That's the spirit! Don't listen to bunk!

While Intel edged in the gaming arena since AMD fell back there the crap about AMDs going up in smoke while Intels don't is simply of someone's fabrications. Going on 10yrs. already with AMD models not one has even let go period. One saw the 85C max due to piece of garbage 3rd party cooler and didn't go "sizzle sizzle" while the current model saw 107C as reported when the Zalman 9700's fan blade was stuck seeing that heat up. The motor was simply pushed forward to free up the fan and nothing over 39C since.

dgast06 · 03-27-2008, 06:28 AM

Let me see if i can settle this. Blow for blow, intel beats the crap out of amd. Hello, 45nm quads mean anything to you? But lets look at the price /performance ration. Intel has run into the same thing as any other big product. Your paying a crap-ton of money for the name. If i had 5 thousand to spend on a new rig, i would go Intel, but as it was, i had 2000 so i went AMD. My old rig(not in my sig) ran a 2.6 dual core and never even had a problem. keep in mind i spent 140$ on it. Where i come from, we call that a good deal.

Vizy93 · 03-27-2008, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SirKenin

That's actually right on the money. I have two burned out X2s here. Went up in smoke, even with the fans on them. Intel will clock themselves back when they overheat, or they'll shut down. AMD? *sizzle* *sizzle*.

Really, there's no comparison. People want something for nothing, or at least get the illusion they're getting something for nothing. Most people that preach AMD have no clue where AMD excels and where it doesn't.

AMD X2s have one strength... Megaflops. This has an extremely limited practical application. I do have a client that needs that, and thus for him I designed a stellar AMD system.

Otherwise? They're hopeless. I have another dead AMD X2 sitting here at my feet... And the other one at my feet was an X2 Compaq that went up in smoke.. I rebuilt it with Intel/Asus.

thats true. Intels do clock back until they start to cool down. AMd's dont. you know why?

a recent interview:

Q: Why do you, Intel, start to clock back as you get hotter?

Intel: Because im afraid...i like to clock back like a little girl and not go at it. i prefer to lay back...im scared...

Q: how about you, amd?

AMD: Me? Nope. No clock backing for me. IM GOING TO GO FOR MINE!!! 100% of the time. KEEP THE COMPUTER RUNNING, OR DIE TRYIN!!!!!!!!
...............

that explains it all see?

btw, guys im just jokin, just a lil fun being poked. dont take it seriously

*amd is the sheeznit, thoguh*

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Originally Posted by Mtag

Wow!!! People sure are loyal to their brand. Everyone knows that Intel is faster than AMD clock for clock (2.4ghz Intel vs. 2.4ghz AMD). However, AMD has priced their processors to match up with a comparable Intel chip in that price range. This is the only way AMD can compete at the moment.

for some, thats what matters

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Originally Posted by dgast06

Let me see if i can settle this. Blow for blow, intel beats the crap out of amd. Hello, 45nm quads mean anything to you? But lets look at the price /performance ration. Intel has run into the same thing as any other big product. Your paying a crap-ton of money for the name. If i had 5 thousand to spend on a new rig, i would go Intel, but as it was, i had 2000 so i went AMD. My old rig(not in my sig) ran a 2.6 dual core and never even had a problem. keep in mind i spent 140$ on it. Where i come from, we call that a good deal.

exactly, 6000 cost me $160, im happy

PC eye · 03-27-2008, 07:10 AM

The 6000+ X2 dropped some $50 in September last year. It had been $229.99 at newegg in August. Now it still sees $169.99 at the last look.

ThatGuy16 · 03-27-2008, 07:45 AM

I was very pleased with my x2 5600+. But when i got into benchmarking and overclocking, it just wasn't for me.

But for a budget cpu, and for the average user. I would recommend it.

hackapelite · 03-27-2008, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Vizy93

thats true. Intels do clock back until they start to cool down. AMd's dont. you know why?

a recent interview:

Q: Why do you, Intel, start to clock back as you get hotter?

Intel: Because im afraid...i like to clock back like a little girl and not go at it. i prefer to lay back...im scared...

It's not cowardice; it's called "Tactical Retreat"

More on topic...can someone explain why Intels spit at AMDs so hard? More techical information and so on...AMDs do better at FLOPs, Intels perform better clock-for-clock, that's something about both brands... Advantages/disadvantages and actual effect of those on performance. Those are the kinds of facts I'd like to know, and I'm sure they would help heaps of other people...including the starter of this thread. I just don't find "i switched over to intel" or "intel rules" very convincing...

I only just wish I could make some sense...but no

03-27-2008, 06:28 AM	#16 (permalink)
dgast06 New Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 14	Let me see if i can settle this. Blow for blow, intel beats the crap out of amd. Hello, 45nm quads mean anything to you? But lets look at the price /performance ration. Intel has run into the same thing as any other big product. Your paying a crap-ton of money for the name. If i had 5 thousand to spend on a new rig, i would go Intel, but as it was, i had 2000 so i went AMD. My old rig(not in my sig) ran a 2.6 dual core and never even had a problem. keep in mind i spent 140$ on it. Where i come from, we call that a good deal. __________________ My rig Amd Phenom agena 9600 2.3ghz stock Msi k9a2 platinum mobo 32 bit windows vista 2 gigs of munshkin+2 gigs of A-data ddr2 800mhz radeon HD2600xt 512mb (x2) optiarc dvd drive lighton dvd burner 1kw psu 22" acer lcd

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ThatGuy16 Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA Posts: 4,663	I was very pleased with my x2 5600+. But when i got into benchmarking and overclocking, it just wasn't for me. But for a budget cpu, and for the average user. I would recommend it. __________________ CPU: C2D E8400 @ 4Ghz 1.216v HSF: Apogee GTX MB: Gigabyte X38-DS4 Ram: 2x2GB G. Skill DDR2-1068 HDD: 320GB Seagate PSU: OCZ GameXStream 700w OS: Vista Home Premium 64bit GFX: 2x HD3870 Crossfire @ 837/1152 LCD: LG 22" L226WTQ 3DMark06: 19661

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aviation_man New Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 3	well ya know that AMD came out with the 64BIT processor first, which is way faster then the 32BIT of course. So AMD might have a little more experience with that. I also dont know which one to pick, but i might go with Intel.

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Mtag Bronze Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 58	Wow!!! People sure are loyal to their brand. Everyone knows that Intel is faster than AMD clock for clock (2.4ghz Intel vs. 2.4ghz AMD). However, AMD has priced their processors to match up with a comparable Intel chip in that price range. This is the only way AMD can compete at the moment.