Intel? AMD? Help!?

Intel_man · 03-28-2008, 08:25 AM

I'm having a great time with a Intel E6300. Very good, I'm not going to be switching to AMD until they start making proper CPU's and ones that can compete with Intel.

BTW... is it true that AMD runs a tad hotter than Intel CPU's?

bigl2007 · 03-28-2008, 02:06 PM

well from what i hear the sempron ran a bit hot but i dont know which ones hotter celeron or sempron out of the budget single core cpus cuz i havent experienced with a sempron but i had a celeron and that thing wants to scream when i run games even when im just playing a game like guild wars which isnt that demanding it hits nearly 80 celcius some days depending on how hot it get in my room do to having the he at on at certain temp but it will do that even on hot days where i dont have heat sometimes i have to have my window cracked while playing game so for the note i dont think i'll be building what i though would have been fine for gaming i wont be buyign a celeron to put in my home cpu no more since they tend to run so friggon hot

umm other then that i dont know about the other cpus that arent so low budget

and what do you got your e6300 clocked at

Nevakonaza · 03-28-2008, 02:39 PM

i always thought it was the other way round,Intels ran hotter.

well the older pentium machines ive been on was,especialy my uncles P4 rig @ 3.2Ghz...you could cook an egg on that but thats because of crappy cooler.

although i think intel done a great job on the core 2 duo series,they run realy cool even when overclocked.

i have my e6300 clocked at 2.7Ghz and it runs at 35-39c idle and not over 49c on load.

danny (kornowski) also has an e6300 and has his clocked at 2.8Ghz currently.

i would like to go to 3ghz but i dont think it would be worth it.

daisymtc · 03-28-2008, 03:03 PM

I don't know why you guys arguing about the clock to clock performance. I personally don't care about clock speed. All you need to know is which perform better with same price.

E.g. for $100, AMD X2 5000+ BE better than E4500 at stock. However, when come to overclocking intel win. It is that simple, all just depends of what you use the PC for.

For $200, Q6600/ E8400 better than Phenom 9850 in most case. No doubt.

bigl2007 · 03-28-2008, 03:07 PM

i dont have a intel core 2 duo and those temps is unbelievable cool lol. much better then what i get on this machine.

and yeah i thought it was just my celeron but pentiums at 3ghz run so hot and celerons at 3ghz run hot too

so you saying i should get a E6300 to start out when i build my new gaming rig but what about when they come out with better stuff im stuck between the choice of a quad core or a dual core cuz i want to upgrade so well i wont have to upgrade for some time i want to upgrade well enough that the onlything id have to upgrade if time comes would be video card and ram

Interested · 03-28-2008, 08:00 PM

what a flamefest. look at any benchmark. the amd 5600+ is blown to pieces and DEMOLISHED by a el cheapo fast + trusty Intel e6550! E6550! @ 2.33 GHZ!!!!!!!!! OWNS THE AMD'S 2.8Ghz! AMD shall bow down. it's being beaten like a caught run away slave.

Gogey · 03-28-2008, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Interested

what a flamefest. look at any benchmark. the amd 5600+ is blown to pieces and DEMOLISHED by a el cheapo fast + trusty Intel e6550! E6550! @ 2.33 GHZ!!!!!!!!! OWNS THE AMD'S 2.8Ghz! AMD shall bow down. it's being beaten like a caught run away slave.

Or you can run it at 3.1

Wow, this is a useless post.

OvenMaster · 03-29-2008, 05:10 AM

Who's flaming? This is one of the calmer discussions I've seen on this subject...

ThatGuy16 · 03-29-2008, 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Interested

what a flamefest. look at any benchmark. the amd 5600+ is blown to pieces and DEMOLISHED by a el cheapo fast + trusty Intel e6550! E6550! @ 2.33 GHZ!!!!!!!!! OWNS THE AMD'S 2.8Ghz! AMD shall bow down. it's being beaten like a caught run away slave.

I don't think so. Switching from my X2 5600+ clocked at 3Ghz, then getting my E8400 @ stock. I couldn't notice a difference in regular tasks. Though games seemed a bit snappier.

hackapelite · 03-29-2008, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigl2007

cuz i was gonna get a intel quad core in the near future but i hear that intels quad core has 2 pipelines while the amd phenom quad core has 4 pipelines and is called a true quad core cpu so i was wondering what would be the best choice and does it matter if i wante to overclock or would intel be my best bet for overclocking while amd would be best in overall quality im confused

Pipelines...umm?? I think what you heard is that Phenom is a "True" quad-core chip - it's actually got all those four processors on one single die. Intels quads, however, are only two dualcores in one package. Intel's chewingum'n'ducttape soluton still beats Phenom, though, there's no doubt of that.

I think that most people would agree that when it comes to quad-cores, Intel is the way to go, there's no question about that.

03-28-2008, 08:25 AM	#31 (permalink)
Intel_man Silver Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 173	I'm having a great time with a Intel E6300. Very good, I'm not going to be switching to AMD until they start making proper CPU's and ones that can compete with Intel. BTW... is it true that AMD runs a tad hotter than Intel CPU's? __________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 MOBO: Asus P5B-WLA PSU:CoolerMaster Power Extreme 500W VGA: eVGA 9600 GT 512mb GDDR3 HDD: 250 GB RAM: 2 GB DDR2 __________________

03-28-2008, 02:06 PM	#32 (permalink)
bigl2007 Gold Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Age: 22 Posts: 337	well i would have to say um well from what i hear the sempron ran a bit hot but i dont know which ones hotter celeron or sempron out of the budget single core cpus cuz i havent experienced with a sempron but i had a celeron and that thing wants to scream when i run games even when im just playing a game like guild wars which isnt that demanding it hits nearly 80 celcius some days depending on how hot it get in my room do to having the he at on at certain temp but it will do that even on hot days where i dont have heat sometimes i have to have my window cracked while playing game so for the note i dont think i'll be building what i though would have been fine for gaming i wont be buyign a celeron to put in my home cpu no more since they tend to run so friggon hot umm other then that i dont know about the other cpus that arent so low budget and what do you got your e6300 clocked at __________________ psu Coolmax / CX-550B / Black / 550-Watt cpu intel celeron d 3.06ghz mobo intel d 865perl ram 1280 mb ddr pc 3200 ram single channel mobo can run dual channel video card xfx geforce 6800 xt agp 8x ddr3 350 mhz core 1000mhz 1.00ghz mem clock acer al2017 model atx dvd drive nec 4x up to 16x dvd burner

03-28-2008, 02:39 PM	#33 (permalink)
Nevakonaza Diamond Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: C:/Windows Age: 19 Posts: 6,788	i always thought it was the other way round,Intels ran hotter. well the older pentium machines ive been on was,especialy my uncles P4 rig @ 3.2Ghz...you could cook an egg on that but thats because of crappy cooler. although i think intel done a great job on the core 2 duo series,they run realy cool even when overclocked. i have my e6300 clocked at 2.7Ghz and it runs at 35-39c idle and not over 49c on load. danny (kornowski) also has an e6300 and has his clocked at 2.8Ghz currently. i would like to go to 3ghz but i dont think it would be worth it. __________________ Core 2 Duo E6300 OC'd @ 2.7Ghz AC Freezer 7 Pro MSI P35 Neo Combo(45nm ready) 3Gb GeIL DDR2 @ 772 Mhz (Dual channel) Asus Extreme 8800GT G92 512Mb with Glaciator cooler WD Caviar 400Gb Sata II Gigabyte GZ-X1 Black case Lite-On 48X DVD writer Dual layer. Windows Vista Ultimate x64 And soon MacOS 10.5.1 Leopard

03-28-2008, 03:07 PM	#35 (permalink)
bigl2007 Gold Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Age: 22 Posts: 337	wow i dont have a intel core 2 duo and those temps is unbelievable cool lol. much better then what i get on this machine. and yeah i thought it was just my celeron but pentiums at 3ghz run so hot and celerons at 3ghz run hot too so you saying i should get a E6300 to start out when i build my new gaming rig but what about when they come out with better stuff im stuck between the choice of a quad core or a dual core cuz i want to upgrade so well i wont have to upgrade for some time i want to upgrade well enough that the onlything id have to upgrade if time comes would be video card and ram __________________ psu Coolmax / CX-550B / Black / 550-Watt cpu intel celeron d 3.06ghz mobo intel d 865perl ram 1280 mb ddr pc 3200 ram single channel mobo can run dual channel video card xfx geforce 6800 xt agp 8x ddr3 350 mhz core 1000mhz 1.00ghz mem clock acer al2017 model atx dvd drive nec 4x up to 16x dvd burner

03-28-2008, 08:00 PM	#36 (permalink)
Interested Platinum Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: PA Age: 13 Posts: 561	what a flamefest. look at any benchmark. the amd 5600+ is blown to pieces and DEMOLISHED by a el cheapo fast + trusty Intel e6550! E6550! @ 2.33 GHZ!!!!!!!!! OWNS THE AMD'S 2.8Ghz! AMD shall bow down. it's being beaten like a caught run away slave. __________________ N3W U1+1M4+3 M0N5+3R/N3W U1+1M4+3 L4PPY CASE:RAIDMAX SMILODON SILVER/BLUE/Dell Vostro 1500 CPU:Q6600 @ 2.7 GHz/T7250 @ 2.00 GHz HDD:Seagate 7200.10 250 GB SATA 2/120GB RAM: WINTEC AMPX 4GB DDR2 800/4GB DDR2 667 MOBO: GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L / Intel GM965 GPU: MSI nx8600GT 512MB DDR3 @ Core: 700 / 1836 Memory: 756 / nVidia 8400M GS MONITOR: ACER 22" P223w Glossy! (sexiest screen ever!)/ 15" Glossy! FOR SALE : http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=370044254803 Last edited by Interested; 03-28-2008 at 08:04 PM.

03-28-2008, 03:03 PM	#34 (permalink)
daisymtc Diamond Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,994	I don't know why you guys arguing about the clock to clock performance. I personally don't care about clock speed. All you need to know is which perform better with same price. E.g. for $100, AMD X2 5000+ BE better than E4500 at stock. However, when come to overclocking intel win. It is that simple, all just depends of what you use the PC for. For $200, Q6600/ E8400 better than Phenom 9850 in most case. No doubt.

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