Dual boot problem - Ubuntu and XP

apocalyptic · 04-04-2008, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imsati

What is it with people insisting on random unecessary steps.

Juven, if you need a still hand, PM me. The Live CD is more than capable of handling everything install-related, zero need to even look at Windows during it. It was probably just a partition mishap somewhere along the line.

From my experience, I saw, people who install Linux for the first time, the way I explained the partition portion, it´s helpful.

tlarkin · 04-04-2008, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apocalyptic

From my experience, I saw, people who install Linux for the first time, the way I explained the partition portion, it´s helpful.

Actually, it is probably best practice to do all partitioning with in the Linux installer itself, since it will have GParted included which can resize partitions unlike windows disk utility which can not, and it can not resize the volume windows is on.

Juven · 04-05-2008, 04:31 AM

As i told u that i am using my second (D:\ drive) partition of 40GB for ubuntu,
so i divide that 40 GB and use some of that for ext3 and install ubuntu and rest for swap.
But what about the boot loader or gparted will that be autoamtically detected?

imsati · 04-05-2008, 04:35 AM

Quote:

so i divide that 40 GB and use some of that for ext3 and install ubuntu and rest for swap.
But what about the boot loader or gparted will that be autoamtically detected?

Sounds good. I wouldn't do anything over 2 GB for Swap (you can easily get away with 1GB or 512MB) and then ext3 the rest for /home.

GParted will allow you to make/format the partitions during the Install process. GRUB will auto-load at the end of the Install process. Really, all you need to do is input the time zone, language, and partition info and click Install - everything else will be automatic.

PC eye · 04-05-2008, 04:52 AM

One simple formula was just seen when trying to add 7.10 in a dual boot with Vista here with XP as a stand alone on the second drive. After using the live version of GParted to see the root and swap partitions created the ubuntu installer then formatted them as well as adding XP right into the Grub loader.

That also included seeing copies of the ntldr, ntdetect.com, config.sys, IO.sys and MSDOS.sys files as well copied to the Vista drive. Once ubuntu loaded it was then ready for use as well as XP just by creating the partitions separately ahead of time. The installer did the rest except add Vista in which will be a different item now.

imsati · 04-05-2008, 05:34 AM

^ WTF does that have to do with this Thread?

Reading your Posts is like trying to make sense of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww

PC eye · 04-05-2008, 05:46 AM

That's easy enough to figure out. Once the installer goes to work it will copy the boot files for XP onto the drive where ubuntu is installed on. To see everything load up you now need to set that as the default boot drive in the bios.

The Vista drive here was already set as default seeing the option to load XP with ubuntu as default immediately. Now to simply see the working entry made in a different tool to see ubuntu load along with Vista and XP since that was corrected here. But there you would make sure to mount the root partition "/" as advised earlier during the installation.

imsati · 04-05-2008, 06:00 AM

Holy-unneeded-and-totally-useless-steps-Batman...

And FTR, I still fail to see how it has anything to do with the OP by Juven, except to view it as mindless dribble in a vain attempt to further your 'Listen to me! I've a complex and NEED you to believe me' syndrome. Enlighten my feeble mind, pretty please?

Quit now while you're only a bus-length behind, PC. There will be plenty of other Threads to completely make a fool of yourself in - why continue in this one?

Juven, you've been around here for a bit, you know tlarkin and I have experience with Linux, and you (hopefully) know PC for what he truly is. Go with what you trust and you'll be fine.

Juven · 04-05-2008, 06:20 AM

I have set the default drive in bios.

In the last step of Ubuntu setup i checked the 'Install Boot Loader'
and under that it is written - 'Device for Boot Loader Installation' and option below was - '(hdo)_________' this was in a drop down box with no other options.

So i selected that and completed the installation.
But it is still not starting . When i reboot it is asking same question 'Insert proper disk'.
Both my XP and ubuntu are not displayed by the boot loader.

Any guidelines for GRUB installation?

imsati · 04-05-2008, 06:24 AM

What CD are you using to Install - Live or Alt?

Edit: Also, what version, Gutsy (7.10)?

04-05-2008, 04:31 AM	#13 (permalink)
Juven Silver Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 142	As i told u that i am using my second (D:\ drive) partition of 40GB for ubuntu, so i divide that 40 GB and use some of that for ext3 and install ubuntu and rest for swap. But what about the boot loader or gparted will that be autoamtically detected? __________________ God Bless You. Time is precious, Dont waste it. Even the Devil knows it. Juven

04-05-2008, 04:52 AM	#15 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 18,938	One simple formula was just seen when trying to add 7.10 in a dual boot with Vista here with XP as a stand alone on the second drive. After using the live version of GParted to see the root and swap partitions created the ubuntu installer then formatted them as well as adding XP right into the Grub loader. That also included seeing copies of the ntldr, ntdetect.com, config.sys, IO.sys and MSDOS.sys files as well copied to the Vista drive. Once ubuntu loaded it was then ready for use as well as XP just by creating the partitions separately ahead of time. The installer did the rest except add Vista in which will be a different item now. __________________ Geek Goliath: Gates Says G'Bye to Microsoft http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/sto...5246378&page=1 Nitendo DS hits the classroom http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=5250297

04-05-2008, 05:34 AM	#16 (permalink)
imsati Diamond Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: EHT, NJ Posts: 2,415	^ WTF does that have to do with this Thread? Reading your Posts is like trying to make sense of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww __________________ --Jay Gigabyte EP31-DS3L \| E4500 \| Masscool HSF paired with AS-5 80 GB SATA2 x 2 \| e-GeForce 7100 GS \| CM Elite 330 (gorgeous!) Triple Boot: Ubuntu 7.10/XP Home/Kubuntu 7.10 Also, I can kill you with my brain. The Great Forum Challenge http://www.computerforum.com/114761-...tml#post922619 (And you follow his advice why, exactly...?) (Funny Thread though!)

04-05-2008, 05:46 AM	#17 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 18,938	That's easy enough to figure out. Once the installer goes to work it will copy the boot files for XP onto the drive where ubuntu is installed on. To see everything load up you now need to set that as the default boot drive in the bios. The Vista drive here was already set as default seeing the option to load XP with ubuntu as default immediately. Now to simply see the working entry made in a different tool to see ubuntu load along with Vista and XP since that was corrected here. But there you would make sure to mount the root partition "/" as advised earlier during the installation. __________________ Geek Goliath: Gates Says G'Bye to Microsoft http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/sto...5246378&page=1 Nitendo DS hits the classroom http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=5250297

04-05-2008, 06:00 AM	#18 (permalink)
imsati Diamond Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: EHT, NJ Posts: 2,415	Holy-unneeded-and-totally-useless-steps-Batman... And FTR, I still fail to see how it has anything to do with the OP by Juven, except to view it as mindless dribble in a vain attempt to further your 'Listen to me! I've a complex and NEED you to believe me' syndrome. Enlighten my feeble mind, pretty please? Quit now while you're only a bus-length behind, PC. There will be plenty of other Threads to completely make a fool of yourself in - why continue in this one? Juven, you've been around here for a bit, you know tlarkin and I have experience with Linux, and you (hopefully) know PC for what he truly is. Go with what you trust and you'll be fine. __________________ --Jay Gigabyte EP31-DS3L \| E4500 \| Masscool HSF paired with AS-5 80 GB SATA2 x 2 \| e-GeForce 7100 GS \| CM Elite 330 (gorgeous!) Triple Boot: Ubuntu 7.10/XP Home/Kubuntu 7.10 Also, I can kill you with my brain. The Great Forum Challenge http://www.computerforum.com/114761-...tml#post922619 (And you follow his advice why, exactly...?) (Funny Thread though!)

04-05-2008, 06:20 AM	#19 (permalink)
Juven Silver Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 142	I have set the default drive in bios. In the last step of Ubuntu setup i checked the 'Install Boot Loader' and under that it is written - 'Device for Boot Loader Installation' and option below was - '(hdo)_________' this was in a drop down box with no other options. So i selected that and completed the installation. But it is still not starting . When i reboot it is asking same question 'Insert proper disk'. Both my XP and ubuntu are not displayed by the boot loader. Any guidelines for GRUB installation? __________________ God Bless You. Time is precious, Dont waste it. Even the Devil knows it. Juven

04-05-2008, 06:24 AM	#20 (permalink)
imsati Diamond Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: EHT, NJ Posts: 2,415	What CD are you using to Install - Live or Alt? Edit: Also, what version, Gutsy (7.10)? __________________ --Jay Gigabyte EP31-DS3L \| E4500 \| Masscool HSF paired with AS-5 80 GB SATA2 x 2 \| e-GeForce 7100 GS \| CM Elite 330 (gorgeous!) Triple Boot: Ubuntu 7.10/XP Home/Kubuntu 7.10 Also, I can kill you with my brain. The Great Forum Challenge http://www.computerforum.com/114761-...tml#post922619 (And you follow his advice why, exactly...?) (Funny Thread though!) Last edited by imsati; 04-05-2008 at 06:39 AM.

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