FS: Minature Desktop Computer (3.8" High)

Garethman!!` · 04-11-2008, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SirKenin

First of all, you have no reputation. There's no incentive to buy from you.. You're a fly-by-nighter, working out of your bedroom. There's no guarantee you'll be there in six months if I need warranty work or support. In fact, there's a better than average chance you won't be.

I would not have said I would be there if I wouldn't be. I can confirm that I will be on line and around in 6 months time.

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Originally Posted by SirKenin

Based on the parts you use, and certainly your input here as well as your hopeless ebay listings, you really are an amateur. I hope you don't take that offensively as I'm trying to be purely objective.

I would not say I was a pro, but I am most certainly not an amateur. For example, I will be taking my A+ certification test in a few weeks time, after successfully completing the A+ coursework

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Originally Posted by SirKenin

You're one of those guys that thinks throwing a couple of crappy parts together (Foxconn is crap for instance) and selling them for big bucks you're going to strike it rich. You're not. Sorry.

On the PC your on about, after the eBay fee's, I would have only made $20.00.

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Originally Posted by SirKenin

So. Up your quality, or seriously lower your price. Like, WAY down. The trouble is that then it's not worth selling on Ebay. Ebay as it is has a reputation for people selling crap... and the prices of computer items have been driven down as a result. Even worse that you have NO feedback for the last two and a half years.

My last feedback was August 1st, 2007. Not 2 1/2 years ago. I should also be getting 3 more positive feedbacks, because I have just bought two things and sold a computer game.

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Originally Posted by SirKenin

So.. Get a bunch out at cost. Like, several dozen. Get a reputation for quality (and Foxconn/Athena and $20 cases aren't it). Build up a substantial feedback score. THEN start charging a premium.

I couldn't afford to do that at all.

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Originally Posted by SirKenin

And give it up on the Via thing.. They have a use, but only experience will help you know what it is. For instance.. One company that contracts me builds computerized distribution cabinets. The computer is the size of a shoebox and it has a Via CPU in it. The link as it's called is highly specialized, performing a very specific task set.

Unless you're using it to play multimedia on a TV, the Shuttle's are useless.. and at the price you're trying to get, people can buy a real good machine that is far superior in every way.

$369 and $599 are very low in my opinion. I replaced the $899 model with a cheaper version and a wee bit bigger case after following advice.

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Originally Posted by SirKenin

THEN sell for a profit. Because really, people can buy garbage anywhere. They don't need to buy it from you working out of your bedroom. Dell would be more than happy to give them a $399 Dimension. Once you have a satisfactory business presence/reputation then you can start pitching service agreements. THAT's where Dell makes their money.

If they want to buy garbage from Dell, or HP, then that is their choice, but I most certainly do not sell garbage, it may not be superior specs for the most part, the computers are completely fine in doing their jobs they're designed to do.

tlarkin · 04-11-2008, 03:55 PM

I've been in that biz before and I can tell you that your prices are way too high. For one, a company I used to work for, would custom build any system for parts + $100 labor. They could come in, pick out what they wanted or have us build it to spec and pick it up in a day, and it only cost them $100 on top of parts.

Your systems just plain are not worth it. I would recommend to anyone to buy from Dell over you. This is because I know they have a guaranteed warranty and if it breaks Dell can contract out someone locally to come out and fix it at their place.

I have said this a million times before, you don't make any money off of hardware sales. You make it all off of services and labor, and software sales.

If you really want to compete and make money you need to become a certified reseller of MS products as well as hardware companies, figure out a way to efficiently produce systems and sell them, and to top it all off offer some kind of warranty service.

What happens when someone buys a product from you and needs help to reinstall the OS, well they can't get online because they are crashed so chatting with you over the interwebs is not an option. I don't want them to call me and I recommended your product to them, and they have no way of calling you. I am going to say, just get a Dell and be done with it.

Just trying to give you perspective is all.

Kill Bill · 04-12-2008, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by tlarkin

I've been in that biz before and I can tell you that your prices are way too high. For one, a company I used to work for, would custom build any system for parts + $100 labor. They could come in, pick out what they wanted or have us build it to spec and pick it up in a day, and it only cost them $100 on top of parts.

Your systems just plain are not worth it. I would recommend to anyone to buy from Dell over you. This is because I know they have a guaranteed warranty and if it breaks Dell can contract out someone locally to come out and fix it at their place.

I have said this a million times before, you don't make any money off of hardware sales. You make it all off of services and labor, and software sales.

If you really want to compete and make money you need to become a certified reseller of MS products as well as hardware companies, figure out a way to efficiently produce systems and sell them, and to top it all off offer some kind of warranty service.

What happens when someone buys a product from you and needs help to reinstall the OS, well they can't get online because they are crashed so chatting with you over the interwebs is not an option. I don't want them to call me and I recommended your product to them, and they have no way of calling you. I am going to say, just get a Dell and be done with it.

Just trying to give you perspective is all.

Your right. Dells the best in the world!! I know you would love dell

People hello your forgetting something.
Dells and HP Cases are huge and are tower size. He should be selling them more because a dell pc with the specs he has would be 369 - 450$ and that be a big ugly tower that is brandmarked with dell all over it whilst this guys one is pretty cheap as hes putting all the hardware into a small case so IMO hes doing brilliant

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Suggestions:
1. If your trying to do media centre dont give them mobos with indergrated graphics or intel ones. I seen a mobo that gives ATI x700 prebuilt in one. If you can get them type it would be alot better.

2. Sell matching big 20 - 30inch monitors (sell in diff listings) with them as your going media centre and everone wants big monitors to watch the season finale of lost or greys anathomy.

3. Dont give them windows. Give them linux or Kubuntu and if they want windows pre-installed charge them the price of what windows your going to buy and add 5% onto it. (This also means you give them the cd/dvd aswell as the key (you have to stick it onto the case)

Garethman!!` · 04-12-2008, 06:15 PM

Thank you for your support Kill Bill, it is much appreciated. I have added a video card to this model http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=300214724766, I never thought about selling LCDs, that is a great idea! All of the PCs now except for 1 come with Linux Ubuntu, the reason behind the one coming with XP is because the TV Tuner doesn't work in Linux. I already do send the CDs and stick the product key to the case

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Kill Bill · 04-12-2008, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Garethman!!`

Thank you for your support Kill Bill, it is much appreciated. I have added a video card to this model http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=300214724766, I never thought about selling LCDs, that is a great idea! All of the PCs now except for 1 come with Linux Ubuntu, the reason behind the one coming with XP is because the TV Tuner doesn't work in Linux. I already do send the CDs and stick the product key to the case

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I would love to buy that pc for my parents sitting room as she loves desperate housewives and that machine doesnt look powerhungry.

But by video cards I didn't mean a big 7spec one. A normal 6600GT/x800 is fine.

And for the LCD's sell them seperately and make insurance optional

(Actually give insurance on all pcs) and sell the same pc's with another listing with the monitor included. (Once someone buys one of them get rid of the other

)

Garethman!!` · 04-12-2008, 07:13 PM

I have changed the video card to a Fanless FX5200 for the same price as that 7200GS, I figured the fan would have been noisy on it. I also added a Creative Labs Sound Blaster sound card, so then the sound will be much better than on board. I will have a try selling one with a monitor, I am planning on putting a Pico-ATX PC on, which is only 1 inch tall!

Kill Bill · 04-12-2008, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Garethman!!`

I have changed the video card to a Fanless FX5200 for the same price as that 7200GS, I figured the fan would have been noisy on it. I will have a try selling one with a monitor, I am planning on putting a Pico-ATX PC on, which is only 1 inch tall!

Fanless fx5200 in a small case = not pretty good.

you better put it back on the gpu and by monitors etc i ment

pc 1
pc 2
pc 3

pc 1 with monitor
pc 2 with monitor
pc 3 with monitor

And if some buys pc 2 you have to cancell pc 2 with monitor unless you built more than one of them

Garethman!!` · 04-12-2008, 07:30 PM

Would it be worth +$5.99 to add a quieter case fan to it?

Ohh, o.k, ill put the 7200 back on.

Kill Bill · 04-12-2008, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Garethman!!`

Would it be worth +$5.99 to add a case fan to it?

Ohh, o.k, ill put the 7200 back on.

Your going to sell a pc without a fan in it

nevermind what i said about buying one for my parents sitting room. I would want to have to buy a new big tv when it goes on fire

Garethman!!` · 04-12-2008, 07:36 PM

It has a case fan on it, id refuse to sell one without a fan, what I meant was, would it be worth it to put one on which is quieter? As the one which comes with the case is quite noisy. Ill edit the message above before others get confused by it.

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Garethman!!` Platinum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: UK and USA Age: 17 Posts: 909	Thank you for your support Kill Bill, it is much appreciated. I have added a video card to this model http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=300214724766, I never thought about selling LCDs, that is a great idea! All of the PCs now except for 1 come with Linux Ubuntu, the reason behind the one coming with XP is because the TV Tuner doesn't work in Linux. I already do send the CDs and stick the product key to the case . __________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 / AMD Athlon 64 X2 TK-53 1.70GHz RAM : 8GB DDR2 PC6400 / 2GB DDR2-667 PC5300 A-DATA HDD : 750GB SATA Seagate Barracuda/ Western Digital Scorpio 250GB 7200RPM GPU : Radeon HD2900XT 512MB / Radeon Xpress 1150 128MB OS : Windows Vista Ultimate x64 / Windows Vista Home Premium

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Garethman!!` Platinum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: UK and USA Age: 17 Posts: 909	I have changed the video card to a Fanless FX5200 for the same price as that 7200GS, I figured the fan would have been noisy on it. I also added a Creative Labs Sound Blaster sound card, so then the sound will be much better than on board. I will have a try selling one with a monitor, I am planning on putting a Pico-ATX PC on, which is only 1 inch tall! __________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 / AMD Athlon 64 X2 TK-53 1.70GHz RAM : 8GB DDR2 PC6400 / 2GB DDR2-667 PC5300 A-DATA HDD : 750GB SATA Seagate Barracuda/ Western Digital Scorpio 250GB 7200RPM GPU : Radeon HD2900XT 512MB / Radeon Xpress 1150 128MB OS : Windows Vista Ultimate x64 / Windows Vista Home Premium Last edited by Garethman!!`; 04-12-2008 at 07:20 PM.

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Garethman!!` Platinum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: UK and USA Age: 17 Posts: 909	Would it be worth +$5.99 to add a quieter case fan to it? Ohh, o.k, ill put the 7200 back on. __________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 / AMD Athlon 64 X2 TK-53 1.70GHz RAM : 8GB DDR2 PC6400 / 2GB DDR2-667 PC5300 A-DATA HDD : 750GB SATA Seagate Barracuda/ Western Digital Scorpio 250GB 7200RPM GPU : Radeon HD2900XT 512MB / Radeon Xpress 1150 128MB OS : Windows Vista Ultimate x64 / Windows Vista Home Premium Last edited by Garethman!!`; 04-12-2008 at 07:36 PM.

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Garethman!!` Platinum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: UK and USA Age: 17 Posts: 909	It has a case fan on it, id refuse to sell one without a fan, what I meant was, would it be worth it to put one on which is quieter? As the one which comes with the case is quite noisy. Ill edit the message above before others get confused by it. __________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 / AMD Athlon 64 X2 TK-53 1.70GHz RAM : 8GB DDR2 PC6400 / 2GB DDR2-667 PC5300 A-DATA HDD : 750GB SATA Seagate Barracuda/ Western Digital Scorpio 250GB 7200RPM GPU : Radeon HD2900XT 512MB / Radeon Xpress 1150 128MB OS : Windows Vista Ultimate x64 / Windows Vista Home Premium Last edited by Garethman!!`; 04-12-2008 at 07:38 PM.

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04-11-2008, 03:55 PM	#52 (permalink)
tlarkin VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 5,944	I've been in that biz before and I can tell you that your prices are way too high. For one, a company I used to work for, would custom build any system for parts + $100 labor. They could come in, pick out what they wanted or have us build it to spec and pick it up in a day, and it only cost them $100 on top of parts. Your systems just plain are not worth it. I would recommend to anyone to buy from Dell over you. This is because I know they have a guaranteed warranty and if it breaks Dell can contract out someone locally to come out and fix it at their place. I have said this a million times before, you don't make any money off of hardware sales. You make it all off of services and labor, and software sales. If you really want to compete and make money you need to become a certified reseller of MS products as well as hardware companies, figure out a way to efficiently produce systems and sell them, and to top it all off offer some kind of warranty service. What happens when someone buys a product from you and needs help to reinstall the OS, well they can't get online because they are crashed so chatting with you over the interwebs is not an option. I don't want them to call me and I recommended your product to them, and they have no way of calling you. I am going to say, just get a Dell and be done with it. Just trying to give you perspective is all.

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