Timo

Don't mind the thread name, I can imagine you guys getting a lot of these threads with the new Processors coming up. You must get more of these threads ofcourse. But this one is an easy one, I'd like some opinions on which one to take from the following two:

Or…

Now I want an opinion non which system to take, take in mind I am going for future proof and good frames for practically everything you throw at it. Ofcourse I want a normal working PC for work etc. but I am sure if it can give a good Framerate then it’ll do fine in normal surroundings (seeing it has 4 cores).

Both systems cost practically the same (the price difference is less then 1%).

And before someone stars: yes I can put the Accelero's on when the cards are in SLI, I can either bend 2 fins on the Accelero in between both so the standard SLI bridge will fit through (or hope it does standard) or I can get myself a flexible SLI bridge (for not much, the Q6600 system will be higher max 1.5% then the Q9450 system).

I myself am leaning towards the Q6600 seeing it will get me more bang for less bucks up against the Q9450 system. And both are about the same to overclock (although the Q9450 will be a bit less of a hothead, but that's no problem if you have 2 fans sticked on your Scythe Infinity where one has 110CFM on max).

I'm pushing towards that Q6600 seeing it OC's good and works on a 680i chipset (XFX 680i LT). Not that the Q9450 doesn't OC good, but it won't work on that same 680i board. And seeing the 780i/790i is out of my budget I'd have to get a 750i for future SLI... And I prefer two PCI-e 16x slots over one x16 PCI-e v2.0 slot and one x8 PCI-e (v2.0 ?) slot... The V2.0 hardly brings anything more seeing the 8800GT's wont use the total bandwith of the genereal x16 slots anyway.


I thank you in advance


Gr.
Timo


(PS, about the PCI-e V2.0, I mean that it won't use up the total bandwith of the x16 V1.0 slot when you play at 1600*1200 with some AA and AF on. Perhaps at 2560×1600 you might use up the max and then v2.0 might bring a tiny little bit extra... But the screen I am getting only does max 1680*1050, not much need for it then)

Cleric7x9

i would definitely go for the q6600 SLI machine

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RAM|| 4GB corsair xms2 pc6400 800mhz
HDD|| 2x WD Raptor 150GB 2x WD 500GB
MBO|| EVGA 680i SE
GPU|| Evga 8800GT Superclocked
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Case|| Antec 900

Timo

Oh, and I want to add this:

I hope that I can assume that a OCZ StealthXstream (600Watt) will run either systems? I counted in 35% aging, 95% TDP and 95% load and it gave me that I should pick a 580watt (keep in mind that it will then use up the amounts of watts any PSU will be most likely the most efficient at which is about 50% load). So 600 watt's should keep me right on the money?

(I used eXtreme Powersupply Calculator Lite v2.5)

It will be Q6600 G0 at 2800
SLI 8800GT
2 sticks of DDR2
1 DVDr/rw CDr/rw writer/reader etc. (reads/burns).
1 HD (maybe another one in the future but I am not counting on that at all).
1 usb in use
4 casefans (not running at top)
2 CPU fans (most likely not running top either)
2 VGA coolers that don't use any power at all (seeing the Accelero lives of the Airflow in the case).

morris14cc

yeah and definitely the second one

oscaryu1

Why not just get a single 9800/GTS G92?

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Timo

Are you joking me? Give me a substantial difference in fps between a 9800GTS G92, and a 8800GTS G92 card. There is hardly any, perhaps the 9800GTS will score a little bit higher on a 3dmark and half a frame more on average but it comes nowhere near to actually beating the 8800GTS G92...

Seeing the 8800GTS G92 won't beat two 8800GT's in SLI I'd rather stick with the 8800GT's in SLI (and no... 9800GX2 is not an option, I'd blow my budget with more then 200 euro's.)

If you meant in the Q9450 system that would be even worse seeing I would blow my budget with 100 euro's at least without getting more then 0.5 frames more on average.

oscaryu1

No I am not. 2x GTS G92s would blow away 2x GT's. The GTS G92 beats the GT (one on one)... And there's just a $20 price difference.

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Timo

It thought you meant single GTS G92 instead of SLI 8800GT's

And not over here they are; I can buy the cheapest 8800GT at 130,- euros: Clicky

And the cheapest 8800GTS here costs: Clicky

That's a difference of roughly 65,- ...So in total that would be 130,- euros... 130 euro's I would spend more wise on a different processor (such as a Q6700, which only differs in price from the Q6600 with 70 euro's) instead of 2 overkill cards :p

But I won't change the cards, nor will I change the processor seeing if I spend another 130,- euro's I'd blow the budget with 100,- ... And I think that 1200,- euro's for a computer is more then enough. (and the Q6700 might OC better... But I'm not pushing further then 2.8 or 3.0 anyway so really there is no use)

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Ordered and in the making (the current one isn't worthy to be mentioned): Clicky here
Mobo: XFX 680i LT Sli
CPU: Q6600
Vcard: 2x 8800GT Sli
RAM: DDR2 800Mhz CL4 (OCZ)
CPU Cooler: Scythe Infinity (with added 120mm 110CFM fan pulling, and the standard one pushing)
Vcard Cooler(s): Arctic Cooling Accelero S1 Rev2

Kornowski

Definitely the second one, with the GTS' in SLI!

They OC like champs, the GT's can OC, but nothing like the GTS' due to the single slot cooler.
Also, the Q6600 can reach 3.2GHz EASILY!

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Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 @ 2.8GHz
Gigabyte GA-965P-S3 - Rev 3.3
4GB Crucial Ballistix @ 800MHz
PNY 8800GTS G92 @ 800/2000/1000
Corsair HX520W
Windows Vista Home Premium
Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7200.11 SATA II
WD 120GB SATA II
Tuniq Tower LED
OCZ XTC RAM Cooler
Antec 900 (Modded)

Timo

I know that the Q6600 can get 3.2... But I don't need it

And the 8800GTS's in SLI will cost me 130,- more, for like instead of 30 frames in crysis I will get 35 frames... I am not a superhuman so I won't see the difference

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Ordered and in the making (the current one isn't worthy to be mentioned): Clicky here
Mobo: XFX 680i LT Sli
CPU: Q6600
Vcard: 2x 8800GT Sli
RAM: DDR2 800Mhz CL4 (OCZ)
CPU Cooler: Scythe Infinity (with added 120mm 110CFM fan pulling, and the standard one pushing)
Vcard Cooler(s): Arctic Cooling Accelero S1 Rev2