Which is better for cooling?

SDMorris · 04-23-2008, 09:37 PM

Hello everyone. Last night I purchased a EVGA GeForce 9800GTX Superclocked and a Thermaltake 500w PSU for my HP m8000. I need to know this, since my case is pretty small and it will already be a tight fit with the new card, would it be wiser for me to buy several new fans for it, or buy a new case? Could someone please select a good case that would work with all my stuff? These are the only two aftermarket things that will be in the computer. Preferably in the $50 or less price range.

imsati · 04-23-2008, 09:40 PM

Personally, I'd go for a new case. Big-Brand cases are designed for quiet-operation, not cooling capabilities.

As far as a recommendation, this case is incredible

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119115

The newer version of it, the Elite 340, is $5 less, also from Newegg.

Quick69GTO · 04-23-2008, 11:01 PM

Agreed imsati.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119106
This one is better for GPU cooling.

SDMorris · 04-23-2008, 11:07 PM

Hey guys-- Those both look like great cases, but I ended up purchasing this. What do you think?

One minute..

SDMorris · 04-23-2008, 11:10 PM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811166004

Will this work with my motherboard?? I hope it does

Quick69GTO · 04-23-2008, 11:18 PM

It'll work. HPs are usually standard ATX but the HP power supply might be too small.
The 80mm fans might be a tad loud and I think it looks a little busy for my taste.

SDMorris · 04-23-2008, 11:26 PM

I bought this thermaltake powersupply last night -

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153052

I dont care about fan noise, I just want a case that looks good (this one does IMO) and keeps it cool. So it should work?

imsati · 04-23-2008, 11:46 PM

Well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and your eye differs from mine apparently

It's all good though - different things for different folks. If the case keeps things cool and you like it, it's all good at the end of the day

As for the MoBo, yes it will fit. Good point with the ATX PSU though... Some Big-Brand systems need a BTX-style PSU; some are ATX. Depending on how new your system is, the ATX you picked out should be fine, but if things don't fit, you'll need to RMA and grab a BTX.

Quick69GTO · 04-24-2008, 12:14 AM

Did a quick Google search for the HP M8000. It looks like a standard ATX format.
The best way to tell is to pull the side cover and look to see if the processor is towards the front of the tower (usually covered by a duct from the front of the case) or if it's positioned towards the back of the case (usually ducted to the rear).
If it's towards the back, then it's standard ATX.
Also look to make sure there is a fan on top of the CPU heatsink. If it's ducted to a rear panel fan, then that might be a problem.
All of the front panel hardware looks proprietary to the HP case. It may prove difficult to transfer it all to an aftermarket case.
You know, it might be prudent to try the 9800 in the HP case first.

Just my thoughts.

SDMorris · 04-24-2008, 02:43 AM

I looked, and the motherboard is nearly touching the rear wall of the case. And there is a fan on the big heatsink that is smack dab in the middle of the motherboard. When you say all the front panel hardware looks proprietary to the HP case, what do you mean?

04-23-2008, 09:37 PM	#1 (permalink)
SDMorris Bronze Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 37	Which is better for cooling? Hello everyone. Last night I purchased a EVGA GeForce 9800GTX Superclocked and a Thermaltake 500w PSU for my HP m8000. I need to know this, since my case is pretty small and it will already be a tight fit with the new card, would it be wiser for me to buy several new fans for it, or buy a new case? Could someone please select a good case that would work with all my stuff? These are the only two aftermarket things that will be in the computer. Preferably in the $50 or less price range. __________________ Base Computer:HP m8000n CPU:Intel Q6600 - GFX:eVGA 9800GTX SSC Monitor:HP w2207 22" - PSU:Thermaltake Purepower 600w OS:Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit - Case: Sunbeam Transformer IC-TR-BA Black Steel RAM:Patriot Viper DDR3 4GB - Mobo: eVGA Nvidia 790i Ultra SLI CPU Heatsink: Zalman 9700

04-23-2008, 09:40 PM	#2 (permalink)
imsati Diamond Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: EHT, NJ Posts: 2,634	Personally, I'd go for a new case. Big-Brand cases are designed for quiet-operation, not cooling capabilities. As far as a recommendation, this case is incredible http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119115 The newer version of it, the Elite 340, is $5 less, also from Newegg. __________________ --Jay Gigabyte EP31-DS3L \| E4500 \| Masscool HSF paired with AS-5 80 GB SATA2 x 2 \| e-GeForce 7100 GS \| CM Elite 330 (gorgeous!) Triple Boot: Ubuntu 7.10/XP Home/Kubuntu 7.10 You do realize that everytime PC eye Posts, God kicks a puppy, and every time someone takes his advice, He smothers a kitten in front of a child, right? http://www.computerforum.com/114761-...tml#post922619 Last edited by imsati; 04-23-2008 at 09:47 PM.

04-23-2008, 11:07 PM	#4 (permalink)
SDMorris Bronze Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 37	Hey guys-- Those both look like great cases, but I ended up purchasing this. What do you think? One minute.. __________________ Base Computer:HP m8000n CPU:Intel Q6600 - GFX:eVGA 9800GTX SSC Monitor:HP w2207 22" - PSU:Thermaltake Purepower 600w OS:Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit - Case: Sunbeam Transformer IC-TR-BA Black Steel RAM:Patriot Viper DDR3 4GB - Mobo: eVGA Nvidia 790i Ultra SLI CPU Heatsink: Zalman 9700

04-23-2008, 11:10 PM	#5 (permalink)
SDMorris Bronze Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 37	http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811166004 Will this work with my motherboard?? I hope it does __________________ Base Computer:HP m8000n CPU:Intel Q6600 - GFX:eVGA 9800GTX SSC Monitor:HP w2207 22" - PSU:Thermaltake Purepower 600w OS:Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit - Case: Sunbeam Transformer IC-TR-BA Black Steel RAM:Patriot Viper DDR3 4GB - Mobo: eVGA Nvidia 790i Ultra SLI CPU Heatsink: Zalman 9700 Last edited by SDMorris; 04-23-2008 at 11:16 PM. Reason: Question

04-23-2008, 11:18 PM	#6 (permalink)
Quick69GTO Silver Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 204	It'll work. HPs are usually standard ATX but the HP power supply might be too small. The 80mm fans might be a tad loud and I think it looks a little busy for my taste. Last edited by Quick69GTO; 04-23-2008 at 11:20 PM.

04-23-2008, 11:01 PM	#3 (permalink)
Quick69GTO Silver Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 204	Agreed imsati. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119106 This one is better for GPU cooling.

04-23-2008, 11:26 PM	#7 (permalink)
SDMorris Bronze Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 37	I bought this thermaltake powersupply last night - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153052 I dont care about fan noise, I just want a case that looks good (this one does IMO) and keeps it cool. So it should work? __________________ Base Computer:HP m8000n CPU:Intel Q6600 - GFX:eVGA 9800GTX SSC Monitor:HP w2207 22" - PSU:Thermaltake Purepower 600w OS:Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit - Case: Sunbeam Transformer IC-TR-BA Black Steel RAM:Patriot Viper DDR3 4GB - Mobo: eVGA Nvidia 790i Ultra SLI CPU Heatsink: Zalman 9700

04-23-2008, 11:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
imsati Diamond Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: EHT, NJ Posts: 2,634	Well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and your eye differs from mine apparently It's all good though - different things for different folks. If the case keeps things cool and you like it, it's all good at the end of the day As for the MoBo, yes it will fit. Good point with the ATX PSU though... Some Big-Brand systems need a BTX-style PSU; some are ATX. Depending on how new your system is, the ATX you picked out should be fine, but if things don't fit, you'll need to RMA and grab a BTX. __________________ --Jay Gigabyte EP31-DS3L \| E4500 \| Masscool HSF paired with AS-5 80 GB SATA2 x 2 \| e-GeForce 7100 GS \| CM Elite 330 (gorgeous!) Triple Boot: Ubuntu 7.10/XP Home/Kubuntu 7.10 You do realize that everytime PC eye Posts, God kicks a puppy, and every time someone takes his advice, He smothers a kitten in front of a child, right? http://www.computerforum.com/114761-...tml#post922619

04-24-2008, 12:14 AM	#9 (permalink)
Quick69GTO Silver Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 204	Did a quick Google search for the HP M8000. It looks like a standard ATX format. The best way to tell is to pull the side cover and look to see if the processor is towards the front of the tower (usually covered by a duct from the front of the case) or if it's positioned towards the back of the case (usually ducted to the rear). If it's towards the back, then it's standard ATX. Also look to make sure there is a fan on top of the CPU heatsink. If it's ducted to a rear panel fan, then that might be a problem. All of the front panel hardware looks proprietary to the HP case. It may prove difficult to transfer it all to an aftermarket case. You know, it might be prudent to try the 9800 in the HP case first. Just my thoughts.

04-24-2008, 02:43 AM	#10 (permalink)
SDMorris Bronze Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 37	I looked, and the motherboard is nearly touching the rear wall of the case. And there is a fan on the big heatsink that is smack dab in the middle of the motherboard. When you say all the front panel hardware looks proprietary to the HP case, what do you mean? __________________ Base Computer:HP m8000n CPU:Intel Q6600 - GFX:eVGA 9800GTX SSC Monitor:HP w2207 22" - PSU:Thermaltake Purepower 600w OS:Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit - Case: Sunbeam Transformer IC-TR-BA Black Steel RAM:Patriot Viper DDR3 4GB - Mobo: eVGA Nvidia 790i Ultra SLI CPU Heatsink: Zalman 9700

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