SATA vs IDE

raoul_1101 · 04-24-2008, 11:11 PM

Could someone clear up the differences between SATA and IDE please?

-Is SATA denoted ATA-300, while IDE ATA-100?

Ambushed · 04-24-2008, 11:56 PM

SATA - Serial ATA is a serial technology instead of being parallel like IDE (Also known PATA - Parallell ATA), SATA is liked more over IDE hard drives because of its speed increase and its small wires that allow air flow instead of big bulky ribbons that the IDE hard drives have.

Can you imagine how much better airflow and how much tidy it would look with SATA cables instead of IDE?

I don't want to go into detail between serial and parallel technology, so you'll have to google it.

PC eye · 04-25-2008, 12:21 AM

One part is correct there namely the increase seen in air flow with the thinner cables. However despite seeing a faster bus the ATA100 hardware limitations are still seen with the average 7,200 sata model. That's why many go after the smaller capacity WD Raptor models seeing a 10,000rpm over 7,200.

The next stage for hard drives however will not seeing faster spindle speeds due to the physical limitations of the current form of hard drive. A totally new type of storage medium is one thought while the next version of Windows may see a totally new method for file indexing on the current types of drives available. But for now that's strictly rumor until an actual MS release is seen.

For the most part the main differences are cable type and some differences seen with the controller cards on the drives themselves for the 7pin cable over the long outdated ide standard of 40pin/80conductor seen there. The spindles, spindle motors, and magnetic platters in the drives themselves remain the same inside the same basic 3 1/2" housing.

raoul_1101 · 04-27-2008, 10:08 PM

ok... is it correct then that SATA = ATA300 then?
and can you put 2 devices on one channel of ATA300 like you can IDE?

UriA702 · 04-27-2008, 10:52 PM

no, you can not, but motherboards typically come with anywhere from 4-6 sata connectors, and you can always buy a pci sata controller for extra ports.

oscaryu1 · 04-27-2008, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raoul_1101

ok... is it correct then that SATA = ATA300 then?
and can you put 2 devices on one channel of ATA300 like you can IDE?

You cannot. One SATA port and wire per SATA device. Motherboards usually have 2/4 slots for SATA cables on the mobo.

[-0MEGA-] · 04-28-2008, 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raoul_1101

ok... is it correct then that SATA = ATA300 then?
and can you put 2 devices on one channel of ATA300 like you can IDE?

It's important to remember the "S" on ATA, if you go around just saying ATA300 for instance, people are going to get confused. (IDE = PATA).

And no, one SATA cable only supports one device.

dznutz · 04-28-2008, 04:51 AM

i too wish the companies would standardize their classification system...

i've seen sata as: serial, sata 150, sata 300 (the 150 is first generation and slower than the 300. some pci cards only support 150. so if you have a 300 then you'll have to convert it to 150 by placing a jumper)

i've seen pata as: parallel, ide, ide-5, ata, ata 100

cohen · 04-28-2008, 06:10 AM

Sata = a lot faster - best way to go for hard drives

IDE = slower... good for DVD and CD drives

My mobo has 2 SATA ports and 1 IDE

But if you need more go and buy a PCI card like many people say.

But not with newer technology SATA is the way to go and i also hear that they are coming up with PATA......???

Vizy93 · 04-28-2008, 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vk3fcll

Sata = a lot faster - best way to go for hard drives

IDE = slower... good for DVD and CD drives

My mobo has 2 SATA ports and 1 IDE

But if you need more go and buy a PCI card like many people say.

But not with newer technology SATA is the way to go and i also hear that they are coming up with PATA......???

they already came out with PATA. its the same as IDE. and parallel. and ata 100.

someone so graciously even provided a pic:

the top one is PATA.

04-24-2008, 11:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
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PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 18,667	One part is correct there namely the increase seen in air flow with the thinner cables. However despite seeing a faster bus the ATA100 hardware limitations are still seen with the average 7,200 sata model. That's why many go after the smaller capacity WD Raptor models seeing a 10,000rpm over 7,200. The next stage for hard drives however will not seeing faster spindle speeds due to the physical limitations of the current form of hard drive. A totally new type of storage medium is one thought while the next version of Windows may see a totally new method for file indexing on the current types of drives available. But for now that's strictly rumor until an actual MS release is seen. For the most part the main differences are cable type and some differences seen with the controller cards on the drives themselves for the 7pin cable over the long outdated ide standard of 40pin/80conductor seen there. The spindles, spindle motors, and magnetic platters in the drives themselves remain the same inside the same basic 3 1/2" housing. __________________ Users Fight to Save Windows XP! http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=4646547 Microsoft Not Ruling Out XP Extension http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=4716159

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dznutz Gold Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: california Age: 27 Posts: 439	i too wish the companies would standardize their classification system... i've seen sata as: serial, sata 150, sata 300 (the 150 is first generation and slower than the 300. some pci cards only support 150. so if you have a 300 then you'll have to convert it to 150 by placing a jumper) i've seen pata as: parallel, ide, ide-5, ata, ata 100 __________________ ANTEC 900 COOLERMASTER EXTREME 500w MSI NEO-F p35 INTEL E4500 @ 2.2ghz EVGA geforce 7300gs 2gb CORSAIR XMS2 @800mhz SAMSUNG SH-203N SATA WESTERN DIGITAL CAVIAR 500gig SATA, HITACHI DECKSTAR 500 gig SATA, SAMSUNG SPINPOINT T 500gb SATA ,SEAGATE BARRACUDA 1tb SATA AIRLINK 101 300n pci \| XP PRO 32 bit, VISTA ULTIMATE 64 bit

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cohen Diamond Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 14 Posts: 2,088	Sata = a lot faster - best way to go for hard drives IDE = slower... good for DVD and CD drives My mobo has 2 SATA ports and 1 IDE But if you need more go and buy a PCI card like many people say. But not with newer technology SATA is the way to go and i also hear that they are coming up with PATA......??? __________________ formerly vk3fcll View My website It has all my computer stuff on it User Name - cf Password - computer NEW!!!! Live Streaming!! My Computer Specs My Computer Pics

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