About the term "PIRACY"

2048Megabytes · 05-07-2008, 03:15 PM

I was reading about some of the terms used in connection with the illegal copying software and found the below information to be amusing.

Publishers often refer to prohibited copying as “piracy.” In this way, they imply that illegal copying is ethically equivalent to attacking ships on the high seas, kidnapping and murdering the people on them.

If you don't believe that illegal copying is just like kidnapping and murder, you might prefer not to use the word “piracy” to describe it. Neutral terms such as “prohibited copying” or “unauthorized copying” are available for use instead.

StrangleHold · 05-07-2008, 03:44 PM

You could also use the words, Scum Bucket - Low Life - Thief - Loser - or on the other side of the fence - Man against the Machine

munkyeetr · 05-07-2008, 04:05 PM

One issue I have with "piracy" or "prohibited copying" or whatever you want to call it...is that they (that ominous they that everyone is always talking about) want to compare it to theft. It's not theft. To use that comparison implies that you have taken something from them and that they no longer possess it. That you have "stolen" it from them, which is not the case. Nothing has been stolen. They may also make the inference that you have not physically stolen "something" from them, but that you have deprived them of revenue. I don't agree with that either.

Personally, I would never pay hundreds of dollars for some application; Office for instance. They would never have seen that revenue from me in the first place - EVER -, so by downloading Office I haven't deprived them of revenue and I haven't removed anything from their possession. They have it, and I also have it.

It's a victimless non-crime. It just is.

CPTMuller · 05-07-2008, 05:07 PM

I'm neutral on that, I got CS3 for free (legit copies) and I use mostly shareware on my computer, though I do have the random odd song from illegal methods. We have over 100gigs of CDs on our network, all legitimately acquired so I don't feel bad about it. I guess I don't really care about people stealing from the big dogs of software simply because they charge an arm and a leg and it really is too much of a financial strain to pay 300$ for office (when all you need is a text editor) every 2 years. But people who take software from small independent suppliers are pirates and should suffer the consequences.

2048Megabytes · 05-07-2008, 07:15 PM

I do think Microsoft charges too much money for their software and operating systems. In my opinion I think a fair price for Windows is around $60 to $70 so I simply bypassed the retail store and shopped on the internet until I got what I wanted for the price I wanted. As for Microsoft Office, there is always the substitute of Open Office.

It is not right to make illegal copies of copyrighted software in my opinion. But I also think labeling illegal copying "pirating" is like stating the theft of a nickel is grand larceny embezzling.

funkysnair · 05-07-2008, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StrangleHold

You could also use the words, Scum Bucket - Low Life - Thief - Loser - or on the other side of the fence - Man against the Machine

i agree with the theif part but thats it!!!!

loser? low life? lol....... i have met some people in my time that i could call a looser but for copying stuff?

copying stuff is theft end of

funkysnair · 05-07-2008, 07:44 PM

what if the person has bought a legal copy of xp but would prefer a smaller version that has been fiddled with?

would you turn a blind eye as you know they have an original disk that is not getting used but would prefer to use a "light" edition?

g25racer · 05-07-2008, 07:57 PM

Copying or downloading an OS from a torrent is not illegal! The only thing illegal is if you crack/hack it!

Deviousmind · 05-07-2008, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2048Megabytes

I was reading about some of the terms used in connection with the illegal copying software and found the below information to be amusing.

Publishers often refer to prohibited copying as “piracy.” In this way, they imply that illegal copying is ethically equivalent to attacking ships on the high seas, kidnapping and murdering the people on them.

If you don't believe that illegal copying is just like kidnapping and murder, you might prefer not to use the word “piracy” to describe it. Neutral terms such as “prohibited copying” or “unauthorized copying” are available for use instead.

Piracy simply means in the english language robbery or theft, and nowadays illegal copying, the kidnapping and murder was commited by the pirates (who where called that because they commited piracy) and so murder etc is associated with pirates and not the word piracy

Wanderer_42 · 05-08-2008, 09:22 PM

Microsoft are charging $250 plus for a copy of office. it is also ripping off people as you can buy a blank Cd for under $1. if they kept office like it is no R and d they could sell it for a fair price and there would be no need to copy or steal it.same go's for windows just look at Vista why not improve windows XP instead of starting a new windows with heaps more bugs and asking far to much for it.

05-07-2008, 03:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
2048Megabytes Platinum Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Mainland United States Posts: 808	About the term "PIRACY" I was reading about some of the terms used in connection with the illegal copying software and found the below information to be amusing. Publishers often refer to prohibited copying as “piracy.” In this way, they imply that illegal copying is ethically equivalent to attacking ships on the high seas, kidnapping and murdering the people on them. If you don't believe that illegal copying is just like kidnapping and murder, you might prefer not to use the word “piracy” to describe it. Neutral terms such as “prohibited copying” or “unauthorized copying” are available for use instead. __________________ "Few men have virtue to withstand the highest bidder." -- George Washington Operating Systems: 32-bit Windows Vista Service Pack 1 Processor: AMD Athlon 4600+ Dual-Core (2.4 gigahertz) Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-M78SM-S2H Memory: 2 gigabytes of Super Talent PC2-6400 Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 8200 Power Supply: OKIA-450ATX, 450 Watt

05-07-2008, 03:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
StrangleHold Diamond Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: In a realm of unknown Wonders Posts: 6,839	You could also use the words, Scum Bucket - Low Life - Thief - Loser - or on the other side of the fence - Man against the Machine __________________ NZXT Apollo Athlon 64 X2 5600+ Gigabyte GA MA770 DS3 G Skill DDR2 800 2gb PNY 8800GT Spinpoint F1 500gb. Too bad stupidity isn't painful.

05-07-2008, 04:05 PM	#3 (permalink)
munkyeetr Platinum Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Victoria, BC Canada Age: 34 Posts: 628	One issue I have with "piracy" or "prohibited copying" or whatever you want to call it...is that they (that ominous they that everyone is always talking about) want to compare it to theft. It's not theft. To use that comparison implies that you have taken something from them and that they no longer possess it. That you have "stolen" it from them, which is not the case. Nothing has been stolen. They may also make the inference that you have not physically stolen "something" from them, but that you have deprived them of revenue. I don't agree with that either. Personally, I would never pay hundreds of dollars for some application; Office for instance. They would never have seen that revenue from me in the first place - EVER -, so by downloading Office I haven't deprived them of revenue and I haven't removed anything from their possession. They have it, and I also have it. It's a victimless non-crime. It just is. __________________ If the advice you receive helps, please post a reply saying so as courtesy to others who will come here with the same problem. MSI MS-7032 MB - Sempron 3000+ 1.8Ghz - 2GB PC3200 500GB Western Digital - 80GB Samsung - 80GB Maxtor (Dualbooting Ubuntu 7.10/Debian Lenny) nVidia GF 5700LE 256MB (AGP) - SoundBlaster 24bit PCI LiteOn DVDRW - Acer AL1916W 19" (2x) Registered Linux User: 448689

05-07-2008, 05:07 PM	#4 (permalink)
CPTMuller Platinum Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Not there. Posts: 731	I'm neutral on that, I got CS3 for free (legit copies) and I use mostly shareware on my computer, though I do have the random odd song from illegal methods. We have over 100gigs of CDs on our network, all legitimately acquired so I don't feel bad about it. I guess I don't really care about people stealing from the big dogs of software simply because they charge an arm and a leg and it really is too much of a financial strain to pay 300$ for office (when all you need is a text editor) every 2 years. But people who take software from small independent suppliers are pirates and should suffer the consequences. __________________ Specs of my main PC:Laptop (Thinkpad X61) C2D e6320, NVIDIA 7950GT (Factory OC) : C2D T7100, Intel GMA 965 Express 2gb ram 533mhz DDR2, 320GB 7200RPM : 1gb ra, 80gb 5400RPM Soundblaster X-FI Xtreme Audio, Linksys 10/100 Ethernet Card : on board Audio, on board Ethernet

05-07-2008, 07:15 PM	#5 (permalink)
2048Megabytes Platinum Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Mainland United States Posts: 808	I do think Microsoft charges too much money for their software and operating systems. In my opinion I think a fair price for Windows is around $60 to $70 so I simply bypassed the retail store and shopped on the internet until I got what I wanted for the price I wanted. As for Microsoft Office, there is always the substitute of Open Office. It is not right to make illegal copies of copyrighted software in my opinion. But I also think labeling illegal copying "pirating" is like stating the theft of a nickel is grand larceny embezzling. __________________ "Few men have virtue to withstand the highest bidder." -- George Washington Operating Systems: 32-bit Windows Vista Service Pack 1 Processor: AMD Athlon 4600+ Dual-Core (2.4 gigahertz) Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-M78SM-S2H Memory: 2 gigabytes of Super Talent PC2-6400 Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 8200 Power Supply: OKIA-450ATX, 450 Watt

05-07-2008, 07:44 PM	#7 (permalink)
funkysnair Platinum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newcastle-England-uk Age: 26 Posts: 912	what if the person has bought a legal copy of xp but would prefer a smaller version that has been fiddled with? would you turn a blind eye as you know they have an original disk that is not getting used but would prefer to use a "light" edition? __________________ intel quad q6600..............asus p5k pro 4gig ballistix 1066mhz......geforce 7950gt 74gig raptor 10k.......500gig 32mb sata green fans/cathodes........20x nec/sony dvdrw thermaltake tr2 550w.....antec900 vista home premium 64bit....2x 19" acer x193w

05-07-2008, 07:57 PM	#8 (permalink)
g25racer Diamond Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 3,583	Copying or downloading an OS from a torrent is not illegal! The only thing illegal is if you crack/hack it! __________________ CPU - AMD Athlon 64x2 5200+ @ 2.6ghz Ram - 2GB Stock clock HD - 320gb seagate & Samsung 750gb 32mb cache GPU - XFX 8600GT XXX Zalman @ 680 or 700mhz PSU - Ultra X-finity 600watt OS - Vista Home Premium(32) & XP Pro and Vista Audio - JVC 460watts Control - Logitech G25 Wheel & Logitech Rumblepad 2 Games - GTR2 and LFS -- Race Sim's for Life --

05-08-2008, 09:22 PM	#10 (permalink)
Wanderer_42 New Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 8	Over chargeing leads to stealing Microsoft are charging $250 plus for a copy of office. it is also ripping off people as you can buy a blank Cd for under $1. if they kept office like it is no R and d they could sell it for a fair price and there would be no need to copy or steal it.same go's for windows just look at Vista why not improve windows XP instead of starting a new windows with heaps more bugs and asking far to much for it. __________________ My System Specs: CPU:AMD Athlon XP Barton 512 L2 Cache Mobo:MSI K7N2 80 GB Western Digital IDE 7,200 RPM 20 GB Western Digital IDE Drive Video:ATI Radeon 9600xt 256 mb Ram: 512mb

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