SATA Ports

csmdew · 05-13-2008, 03:08 PM

I'm just finding it hard to follow ur logic when the description clearly states that it is to connect an ide hd to a a sata connector on the mb, so what am I missing here. Based on what it says I could connect 2 of these to my dvd burners and then connect them to the sata connectors and they should work. Are u trying to say that since ide connector is available then its not going to let the sata connectors work as ide connectors, if so why does add say that this is how u connect more ide devices than ide connectors are available. They sell ide to sata and sata to ide so why do u keep insisting that it won't work, is it because of my board or what, I'm just not clear on this even though I have everything working using the pcie card and have not had to make any sata purchases yet. Has anyone else tried using these converters, if so can u shed some light on them. The only thing I found on google is that it may be a problem reading through the removable rack system but when connected to the dvd it stll did not show up.

cudenver · 05-14-2008, 06:48 AM

I think i should get a manual to understand all of that.
but good job for explaining to it him,
brett

csmdew · 05-14-2008, 05:06 PM

not sure what u are talking about (good job of explaining it to him), who are u referring to as him....if me maybe u need to read the add listed in post 1 and see if u can figure out why they are advertising someting that don't work. Also read this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16812156010

Based on these reviews I'm not gonna bother with it anymore but it says it works for most ppl, just slow.

PC eye · 05-15-2008, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by csmdew

not sure what u are talking about (good job of explaining it to him), who are u referring to as him....if me maybe u need to read the add listed in post 1 and see if u can figure out why they are advertising someting that don't work. Also read this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16812156010

Based on these reviews I'm not gonna bother with it anymore but it says it works for most ppl, just slow.

The adapter at the link there is for power not the data cable allowng a sata drive to be used with a standard 4wire molex power connector if the supply lacks one or more regular sata plugs. The Sata II lack the molex type option as seen with the older style Sata I drives that saw both type of power connectors available.

For seeing two sata drives used on a board where no sata ports are present while a PCI-E 1x slot is still available the addon card seen at the link here offers two addon ports for even a RAID type array. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16815290002

A combination power/data gender changer to allow a sata drive to be used on an existing supply lacking them can be seen at http://www.startech.com/item/SATA24P...4-Adapter.aspx

Now for seeing an ide type drive connected to a sata port you would need a diffferent type of conversion device that meets the Serial ATA 1.0 specifications like the one seen at http://sewelldirect.com/SerialATAtoI...FQWNggodeiuPnQ

csmdew · 05-15-2008, 05:23 AM

As stated in the reviews on newegg it says it works 50/50 so I just bought a new sata hd and 1 sata dvd burner. Will use 1 ide burner on the ide controller. To much crap to mess with. Thanks for your help.

Vizy93 · 05-15-2008, 05:46 AM

Lol, Pceye, you scared him

PC eye · 05-15-2008, 05:59 AM

Once you buy a sata optical drive that will free up a connector on the single ide cable there. The trend however is for sata while the various converters/adapters are mainly intended for using a sata drive when no connections for power are present on an older system or using an ide drive by way of a special card on a sata port.

The main advantage at this time with sata is simply thinner 7pin data cables over using the wide flat ribbon type unless you spend more on a good round cable. They can be tucked out of the way easier as well as allow better air flow inside a case. With the sata drives you simply plug them in and use them without a fuss.

markzone666 · 05-17-2008, 02:22 PM

why dont you connect your hd to a ide connector?

csmdew · 05-17-2008, 04:09 PM

it currently is but I just went ahead and bought 1 new sata hd and 1 new sata dvd and will connect the other ide dvd to the ide connector....will just sell off the extra ide hds i have

PC eye · 05-18-2008, 12:00 AM

Both ide and sata drives can work together on the same system. But remember if you ever have to reinstall Windows on a sata drive first unplug any ide to avoid seeing the installer place the boot files and mbr information on that. You want the sata as a stand alone with the ide for storage if larger or for slaving a drive to recover files from an older system.

Here the last ide hard drive is now gone while the cd writer is still ide requiring that one round ide cable. Otherwise when that gets replaced sometime only the thin sata data cables easily tucked aside will allow even better air flow. You can always keep an ide drive onhand for a spare or restoring an old system at some point if you run across one that needs a drive. But for new builds at this time sata is the trend.

05-13-2008, 03:08 PM	#11 (permalink)
csmdew Silver Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 110	I'm just finding it hard to follow ur logic when the description clearly states that it is to connect an ide hd to a a sata connector on the mb, so what am I missing here. Based on what it says I could connect 2 of these to my dvd burners and then connect them to the sata connectors and they should work. Are u trying to say that since ide connector is available then its not going to let the sata connectors work as ide connectors, if so why does add say that this is how u connect more ide devices than ide connectors are available. They sell ide to sata and sata to ide so why do u keep insisting that it won't work, is it because of my board or what, I'm just not clear on this even though I have everything working using the pcie card and have not had to make any sata purchases yet. Has anyone else tried using these converters, if so can u shed some light on them. The only thing I found on google is that it may be a problem reading through the removable rack system but when connected to the dvd it stll did not show up. __________________ MB--Gigabyte MA770 DS3 CPU--Amd 5000 Black Edition Mem--4GB Crucial PC2-6400 GPU--XFC GeForce 8600GT Case--Black Smilodon w/5 fans Last edited by csmdew; 05-14-2008 at 05:00 PM.

05-14-2008, 06:48 AM	#12 (permalink)
cudenver Bronze Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Denver,Co Posts: 37	that hard to understand I think i should get a manual to understand all of that. but good job for explaining to it him, brett

05-14-2008, 05:06 PM	#13 (permalink)
csmdew Silver Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 110	not sure what u are talking about (good job of explaining it to him), who are u referring to as him....if me maybe u need to read the add listed in post 1 and see if u can figure out why they are advertising someting that don't work. Also read this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16812156010 Based on these reviews I'm not gonna bother with it anymore but it says it works for most ppl, just slow. Last edited by csmdew; 05-14-2008 at 05:09 PM.

05-15-2008, 05:23 AM	#15 (permalink)
csmdew Silver Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 110	As stated in the reviews on newegg it says it works 50/50 so I just bought a new sata hd and 1 sata dvd burner. Will use 1 ide burner on the ide controller. To much crap to mess with. Thanks for your help. __________________ MB--Gigabyte MA770 DS3 CPU--Amd 5000 Black Edition Mem--4GB Crucial PC2-6400 GPU--XFC GeForce 8600GT Case--Black Smilodon w/5 fans

05-15-2008, 05:46 AM	#16 (permalink)
Vizy93 Diamond Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: LA, Westside Age: 14 Posts: 2,098	Lol, Pceye, you scared him __________________ RnB Session- get updated Hulu- TV quality clips/shows/movies My Slurpee Cup- life's elixir

05-15-2008, 05:59 AM	#17 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 18,938	Once you buy a sata optical drive that will free up a connector on the single ide cable there. The trend however is for sata while the various converters/adapters are mainly intended for using a sata drive when no connections for power are present on an older system or using an ide drive by way of a special card on a sata port. The main advantage at this time with sata is simply thinner 7pin data cables over using the wide flat ribbon type unless you spend more on a good round cable. They can be tucked out of the way easier as well as allow better air flow inside a case. With the sata drives you simply plug them in and use them without a fuss. __________________ Geek Goliath: Gates Says G'Bye to Microsoft http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/sto...5246378&page=1 Nitendo DS hits the classroom http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=5250297

05-17-2008, 02:22 PM	#18 (permalink)
markzone666 New Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: PH Posts: 1	why dont you connect your hd to a ide connector?

05-17-2008, 04:09 PM	#19 (permalink)
csmdew Silver Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 110	it currently is but I just went ahead and bought 1 new sata hd and 1 new sata dvd and will connect the other ide dvd to the ide connector....will just sell off the extra ide hds i have __________________ MB--Gigabyte MA770 DS3 CPU--Amd 5000 Black Edition Mem--4GB Crucial PC2-6400 GPU--XFC GeForce 8600GT Case--Black Smilodon w/5 fans

05-18-2008, 12:00 AM	#20 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 18,938	Both ide and sata drives can work together on the same system. But remember if you ever have to reinstall Windows on a sata drive first unplug any ide to avoid seeing the installer place the boot files and mbr information on that. You want the sata as a stand alone with the ide for storage if larger or for slaving a drive to recover files from an older system. Here the last ide hard drive is now gone while the cd writer is still ide requiring that one round ide cable. Otherwise when that gets replaced sometime only the thin sata data cables easily tucked aside will allow even better air flow. You can always keep an ide drive onhand for a spare or restoring an old system at some point if you run across one that needs a drive. But for new builds at this time sata is the trend. __________________ Geek Goliath: Gates Says G'Bye to Microsoft http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/sto...5246378&page=1 Nitendo DS hits the classroom http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=5250297

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