install 2 OS

force123 · 05-15-2008, 05:17 PM

hey guys

I want to install a windows xp on my friend laptop, VAIO VNG-FZ 250 .
It has already windows Vista installed on it.

My friend insist on keeping windows vista, and want to have 2 OS.
I wanted to know if i just manually install windows xp on that machine, will that work ?

I'll make a custom windows xp with nLite (as the laptop doesn't have FDD, and uses SATA hard drive), then everything the same or i have to do something especial for having 2 OS ?

thanks

**mep916** · 05-15-2008, 05:30 PM

You'll need to create a seperate partition for XP. After installing XP, you'll need to do a Vista Startup Repair as the XP installation will rewrite the boot sector. The repair will give you a standard Windows boot menu so you can boot between the two OSes.

With nLite, I'm assuming you're going to slipstream the SATA drivers, correct? If not, you may need those drivers to successfully install XP.

force123 · 05-15-2008, 08:13 PM

Create a seperate partion for XP ? or install xp in a different partition (drive letter) ?

Since windows xp doesn't recognize sata hard drives and needs the drivers through floppy (with that f6 menu ...), and the laptop doesn't have fdd, So i guess i create a custom win xp with nLite. which put (inject) sata drivers into winxp then i don't have to go through f6 menu. right?

**mep916** · 05-15-2008, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by force123

Create a seperate partion for XP ?

Yes, that will work.

Quote:

Originally Posted by force123

or install xp in a different partition (drive letter) ?

That will also work. If you already have a seperate partition setup, you can install XP on that partition. Make sure you backup any data on that partition - everything will be wiped before the installation.

Quote:

Originally Posted by force123

Since windows xp doesn't recognize sata hard drives and needs the drivers through floppy (with that f6 menu ...), and the laptop doesn't have fdd, So i guess i create a custom win xp with nLite. which put (inject) sata drivers into winxp then i don't have to go through f6 menu. right?

Yeah, that's right. You can slipstream the drivers into the installation disk with nLite.

force123 · 05-15-2008, 09:53 PM

thanks, so last things :

1. i make a partition with partition magic or through win xp setup ?

2. after installing win xp , where to find that vista repair thing ?

**mep916** · 05-15-2008, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by force123

1. i make a partition with partition magic or through win xp setup ?

You can't use Partition Magic with Vista, but you can use Acronis Disk Director or GParted.

Quote:

Originally Posted by force123

2. after installing win xp , where to find that vista repair thing ?

You'll need the Vista install disk, or you can download a program called VistaBootPro. Install the program in XP and select the "Reinstall Vista Bootloader" option.

PC eye · 05-16-2008, 12:23 AM

VistaBootPro is a rippoff of the Neosmart EasyBCD tool! The latest 1.7.2 version is available at http://neosmart.net/dl.php?id=1

GParted will work quite well for seeing the second primary created following the shrinkage needed with the Vista primary to see enough drive space available. Not all laptops or desktops require a driver disk to see XP go on a sata at this time.

What most don't realize is that newer chipsets see XP go on without fuss or the second install screen with the "press S for special devices" option brings up a list of chipsets where selecting the closest one will then see the XP installer readily detect the sata drive.

A friend running an Asus A8V model board couldn't get XP on a Sata I type 200gb drive with repeat attempts with floppies. One press of the S key saw XP go right on with ease! The Asus M2N-E AM2 board here will see XP go on without any of that. It depends on the board and chipset there.

One thing to know about a dual boot of XP along with Vista. Unless the Vista partition/drive is hidden from XP all Vista restore points are automatically canceled out once you boot into XP! Currently I've been working with a still beta tool that hides Vista from XP and sees all restore points left intact when dual booting. Maybe sometime that will be available for download?! It does work well however.

JlCollins005 · 05-16-2008, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by force123

Create a seperate partion for XP ? or install xp in a different partition (drive letter) ?

Since windows xp doesn't recognize sata hard drives and needs the drivers through floppy (with that f6 menu ...), and the laptop doesn't have fdd, So i guess i create a custom win xp with nLite. which put (inject) sata drivers into winxp then i don't have to go through f6 menu. right?

xp doesnt recognize some sata hdds i didnt have to install ne drivers for my sata hdd actually ive only had to do that in one build

PC eye · 05-16-2008, 12:59 AM

Its not the drives so much as the chipset on the board in question that plays the largest role. XP sadly lacks the generic sata drivers seen with Vista being the new version since ide drives were the norm when XP first came out. Boards generally saw a need for an addon controller card for SCSI or sata type drives to begin with.

Since that time the trend has been towards sata since that offers a faster bus while the hard drives still see the physical ATA limitations and don't gain much over ide models at this point except thinner data cables allowing better air flow in cases. Since OSs are preinstalled on Sony Vaios the problem comes when trying to go through their support information along with driver support for a laptop more there.

force123 · 05-16-2008, 01:23 PM

hmmm speaking of winxp install. I guess i need at least its VGA and sound driver for xp.

which i can't find any. The sony site hasn't even mention about windows xp :
http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/swu...?mdl=VGNFZ250E

any idea?

05-15-2008, 05:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
force123 Bronze Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 96	install 2 OS hey guys I want to install a windows xp on my friend laptop, VAIO VNG-FZ 250 . It has already windows Vista installed on it. My friend insist on keeping windows vista, and want to have 2 OS. I wanted to know if i just manually install windows xp on that machine, will that work ? I'll make a custom windows xp with nLite (as the laptop doesn't have FDD, and uses SATA hard drive), then everything the same or i have to do something especial for having 2 OS ? thanks

05-15-2008, 05:30 PM	#2 (permalink)
mep916 Moderator - F@H Guru Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Northern Cali Age: 28 Posts: 3,607	You'll need to create a seperate partition for XP. After installing XP, you'll need to do a Vista Startup Repair as the XP installation will rewrite the boot sector. The repair will give you a standard Windows boot menu so you can boot between the two OSes. With nLite, I'm assuming you're going to slipstream the SATA drivers, correct? If not, you may need those drivers to successfully install XP. __________________ Q9450 @ 3.6 GHz \|\| Zalman CNPS9700 ASUS Rampage Formula 320MB 8800 GTS (G80) 4GB Ballistix Tracer @ 900 MHz 150GB WD Raptor 1TB Hitachi Deskstar Antec Nine Hundred Case 750W Quad Silencer FOLDING FOR THE GOOD OF MANKIND:F@H Team 44358 \|\| Team Stats \|\| My Stats \|\| Hardware Contributions: Q9450/PS3/P4 Last edited by mep916; 05-15-2008 at 05:34 PM.

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PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 19,005	VistaBootPro is a rippoff of the Neosmart EasyBCD tool! The latest 1.7.2 version is available at http://neosmart.net/dl.php?id=1 GParted will work quite well for seeing the second primary created following the shrinkage needed with the Vista primary to see enough drive space available. Not all laptops or desktops require a driver disk to see XP go on a sata at this time. What most don't realize is that newer chipsets see XP go on without fuss or the second install screen with the "press S for special devices" option brings up a list of chipsets where selecting the closest one will then see the XP installer readily detect the sata drive. A friend running an Asus A8V model board couldn't get XP on a Sata I type 200gb drive with repeat attempts with floppies. One press of the S key saw XP go right on with ease! The Asus M2N-E AM2 board here will see XP go on without any of that. It depends on the board and chipset there. One thing to know about a dual boot of XP along with Vista. Unless the Vista partition/drive is hidden from XP all Vista restore points are automatically canceled out once you boot into XP! Currently I've been working with a still beta tool that hides Vista from XP and sees all restore points left intact when dual booting. Maybe sometime that will be available for download?! It does work well however. __________________ Youtube falls short of Google's expectations http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Ahe...ory?id=5336532 Congress studies how people track your online use http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Ahe...ory?id=5337932

05-16-2008, 12:59 AM	#9 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 19,005	Its not the drives so much as the chipset on the board in question that plays the largest role. XP sadly lacks the generic sata drivers seen with Vista being the new version since ide drives were the norm when XP first came out. Boards generally saw a need for an addon controller card for SCSI or sata type drives to begin with. Since that time the trend has been towards sata since that offers a faster bus while the hard drives still see the physical ATA limitations and don't gain much over ide models at this point except thinner data cables allowing better air flow in cases. Since OSs are preinstalled on Sony Vaios the problem comes when trying to go through their support information along with driver support for a laptop more there. __________________ Youtube falls short of Google's expectations http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Ahe...ory?id=5336532 Congress studies how people track your online use http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Ahe...ory?id=5337932

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05-15-2008, 08:13 PM	#3 (permalink)
force123 Bronze Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 96	Create a seperate partion for XP ? or install xp in a different partition (drive letter) ? Since windows xp doesn't recognize sata hard drives and needs the drivers through floppy (with that f6 menu ...), and the laptop doesn't have fdd, So i guess i create a custom win xp with nLite. which put (inject) sata drivers into winxp then i don't have to go through f6 menu. right?

05-15-2008, 09:53 PM	#5 (permalink)
force123 Bronze Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 96	thanks, so last things : 1. i make a partition with partition magic or through win xp setup ? 2. after installing win xp , where to find that vista repair thing ?

05-16-2008, 01:23 PM	#10 (permalink)
force123 Bronze Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 96	hmmm speaking of winxp install. I guess i need at least its VGA and sound driver for xp. which i can't find any. The sony site hasn't even mention about windows xp : http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/swu...?mdl=VGNFZ250E any idea?

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