64 Bit Processors

Happy_Demon · 04-23-2005, 06:38 AM

I noticed that what seems to be the top of the line 64 bit processors and noticed that they have slower processing speeds. I was wondering if 64 bit processors are actually better then there counterparts despite having lower processing speeds?

Also, does Intel make 64 Bit processors, and if so, what are they called and how do they compare to AMD?

**The_Other_One** · 04-23-2005, 06:51 AM

Most all AMD processors now have a much lower clock speed than Intel's. My Athlon 64 4000 is actually only 2.4GHz. That's just how they are making things now, and the PR rating is just to draw people in seeing as many people still are interested in the biggest and best numbers.

Intel does have some sort of 64bit processor I do beleive. I think they are about the same as the Athlon, but I'm not all that sure. Maybe someone else can fill that part in.

Happy_Demon · 04-23-2005, 07:07 AM

Does this mean that an AMD 64 processor is just as good if not better than another CPU that has a higher speed?

LittleHoov · 04-23-2005, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Happy_Demon

Does this mean that an AMD 64 processor is just as good if not better than another CPU that has a higher speed?

yes, most definetely, clock speeds are definetely not everything, many other things come into play..i also believe that AMD chips process things differently when compared to Intels, they get the same result, but AMDs process is simpler, so it takes less clock cycles to complete, im sure someone else can explain it to you better, but dont be fooled by the 64s low clock speed..

**The_Other_One** · 04-23-2005, 07:15 AM

Yup... Check out that Pi benchmark if you can find it... Someone here had a Pentium 4 3.2GHz overclocked to almost 4GHz and got Pi to 1 million spaces in 34 seconds. My 2.4GHz AMD did it in 35.

Now of course, each processor has it's own stregths... Some benchmarks with the pents are pasts due to their high Front Side Bus... However, I think most are usally in favor of the AMDs

mgoldb2 · 04-23-2005, 07:15 AM

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I noticed that what seems to be the top of the line 64 bit processors and noticed that they have slower processing speeds.

The 64 bit part really have nothing to do with lower speeds cpu vs higher speed.

The reason that most of the cpus you looking at with 64 bit was lower speed was because they was athlon 64. AMD cpu took a very different theory on how to make there cpus better. Amd cpus does more in one clock cycle but has less clock cycles. While Intel does less in a clock cycle but has a lot more clock cycle. In the end they will roughly do the same amount of work.

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Does this mean that an AMD 64 processor is just as good if not better than another CPU that has a higher speed?

Performance wise a athlon 64 is just as good if not better then a pentium 4 with a much higher speed. The decision to go athlon 64 or pentium 4 has alot to do with what you plan on using the computer for. Athlons excel at gaming right now while pentium 4 with HT are better for multitasking.

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Also, does Intel make 64 Bit processors, and if so, what are they called and how do they compare to AMD?

Yes intel makes 64bit cpus. In fact there whole current generation line up is 64 bit. All the pentium 4 with a 6XX code is 64 bit I believe.

**Cromewell** · 04-23-2005, 09:31 PM

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All the pentium 4 with a 6XX code is 64 bit I believe.

All 600 series and higher are 64bit.

**Praetor** · 04-25-2005, 11:22 PM

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Intel does have some sort of 64bit processor I do beleive. I think they are about the same as the Athlon, but I'm not all that sure. Maybe someone else can fill that part in.

Their entire 6xx lineup (and later) is 64bit

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Does this mean that an AMD 64 processor is just as good if not better than another CPU that has a higher speed?

Speed doesnt mean much ... performance (there is a difference) is what matters ... this is why both AMD and Intel use indices rather than "mhz" to differentiate models

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All 600 series and higher are 64bit.

I should really read through the thread before starting to reply

04-23-2005, 06:38 AM	#1 (permalink)
Happy_Demon Bronze Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 46	64 Bit Processors I noticed that what seems to be the top of the line 64 bit processors and noticed that they have slower processing speeds. I was wondering if 64 bit processors are actually better then there counterparts despite having lower processing speeds? Also, does Intel make 64 Bit processors, and if so, what are they called and how do they compare to AMD?

04-23-2005, 06:51 AM	#2 (permalink)
The_Other_One Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lexington, NC Age: 24 Posts: 12,368	Most all AMD processors now have a much lower clock speed than Intel's. My Athlon 64 4000 is actually only 2.4GHz. That's just how they are making things now, and the PR rating is just to draw people in seeing as many people still are interested in the biggest and best numbers. Intel does have some sort of 64bit processor I do beleive. I think they are about the same as the Athlon, but I'm not all that sure. Maybe someone else can fill that part in. __________________ Desktop * Athlon X2 4200 \| 2G RAM \| 160G HD \| 7600GT Laptop1 * C2D T5550 \| 3G RAM \| 120G HD \| Intel x3100 Laptop2 * C2D T5250 \| 2G RAM \| 160G HD \| Intel x3100

04-23-2005, 07:15 AM	#5 (permalink)
The_Other_One Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lexington, NC Age: 24 Posts: 12,368	Yup... Check out that Pi benchmark if you can find it... Someone here had a Pentium 4 3.2GHz overclocked to almost 4GHz and got Pi to 1 million spaces in 34 seconds. My 2.4GHz AMD did it in 35. Now of course, each processor has it's own stregths... Some benchmarks with the pents are pasts due to their high Front Side Bus... However, I think most are usally in favor of the AMDs __________________ Desktop * Athlon X2 4200 \| 2G RAM \| 160G HD \| 7600GT Laptop1 * C2D T5550 \| 3G RAM \| 120G HD \| Intel x3100 Laptop2 * C2D T5250 \| 2G RAM \| 160G HD \| Intel x3100

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04-23-2005, 07:07 AM	#3 (permalink)
Happy_Demon Bronze Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 46	Does this mean that an AMD 64 processor is just as good if not better than another CPU that has a higher speed?