upgrade cpu or full build?

StrangleHold · 05-24-2008, 11:29 PM

I just built a Phenom 9850 System and after 3 days I sold it. You better off just waiting till they get the GHZ. up some and the wattage down..

funkysnair · 05-24-2008, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by StrangleHold

I just built a Phenom 9850 System and after 3 days I sold it.

lol-why?

but if i could get the black edition up to 2.8-3.0ghz that would be good right?

well put it this way, i would like something newish (quad) because i like to have change every now and again....

im weighing up the options-upgrade "cpu and board" or "whole new" (intel based)

i just get bored of things easy lol

StrangleHold · 05-24-2008, 11:42 PM

Runs warm doesnt overclock near as well as a 219 buck Q6600 and in almost of 90% of the things I do it wasnt any faster than my 5600. Plus I build them to sell and decided to keep it but after thinking about it decided to sell. I,m in the same situation but I,m going to wait, later this year their suppost to release some that are a little higher in GHZ. and lower wattage. Think there suppost to be a 9850 95 watt comming out soon.

funkysnair · 05-24-2008, 11:45 PM

i think what is going to happen here is-im gonna just sell this as it is and start again!!

i like evrything about my computer but i want to try stay a little behind the technology not miles-the longer i keep this rig the less it is worth.

its intels fault its depreciating so rapidly-it is true amd just cant compete

ducis · 05-24-2008, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by taylormsj

I wouldnt bother upgading, you wont notice a difference in performance between the phenom and your current chip, and the dont overclock well either !!

Did you look at any benchmarks before saying that or did you just decide that all current amd chips suck?
that said waiting for the 95w version couldn't hurt...why not just upgrade cpu and mobo and go intel based if thats what you want

StrangleHold · 05-24-2008, 11:52 PM

Well in Quads if you settle for the lower end AMDs you cant beat the price. But the 9750 and 9850 just cant compete at the price there selling them at. The Q6600 will beat either one and overclocks really well and is selling for the same price as the 9750. If the 9850 was 199 bucks I would say it was a good deal. But there 20 or 25 too high. AMD is suppost to release some lower wattage ones and drop to 45nm. later this year.

funkysnair · 05-24-2008, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by firsttimebuilder

Did you look at any benchmarks before saying that or did you just decide that all current amd chips suck?
that said waiting for the 95w version couldn't hurt...why not just upgrade cpu and mobo and go intel based if thats what you want

well there is a few things i would like to do different, better cooling and bigger case.....

if i went to change to intel i would like to change evrything lol

hermeslyre · 05-25-2008, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by firsttimebuilder

Did you look at any benchmarks before saying that or did you just decide that all current amd chips suck?

Where did he say they suck? He said there wouldn't be a noticeable difference, a truth until competent SMP code is developed; and that it wouldn't OC well. The black edition was only mentioned later, a fact he probably missed because unlike the earlier phenoms in which his statement would apply, blacks can get it up when OC'ing.

If it was me, I'd just upgrade the GPU like mentioned. I'm cheap and like to get the absolute most out of my builds/components. There's no doubt an Intel system would be superior, even more so if you plan on Oc'ing!

lovely? · 05-25-2008, 12:05 AM

look into the Phenom 9100E it takes 30W less then the 9850 even when overclocked to the exact same speeds. it also seems to overclock just a LITTLE bit farther, which is great.

05-24-2008, 11:29 PM	#11 (permalink)
StrangleHold Diamond Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: And you think your safe! Posts: 8,002	I just built a Phenom 9850 System and after 3 days I sold it. You better off just waiting till they get the GHZ. up some and the wattage down.. __________________ NZXT Apollo Athlon 64 X2 5600 3.3ghz. Gigabyte GA MA770 DS3 G Skill DDR2 1066 944mhz. 4gb. PNY 8800GT/VD964 W/D RE2 Sata 3.0 500gb. There's a great power in words, if you don't hitch too many of them together. Last edited by StrangleHold; 05-24-2008 at 11:31 PM.

05-24-2008, 11:42 PM	#13 (permalink)
StrangleHold Diamond Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: And you think your safe! Posts: 8,002	Runs warm doesnt overclock near as well as a 219 buck Q6600 and in almost of 90% of the things I do it wasnt any faster than my 5600. Plus I build them to sell and decided to keep it but after thinking about it decided to sell. I,m in the same situation but I,m going to wait, later this year their suppost to release some that are a little higher in GHZ. and lower wattage. Think there suppost to be a 9850 95 watt comming out soon. __________________ NZXT Apollo Athlon 64 X2 5600 3.3ghz. Gigabyte GA MA770 DS3 G Skill DDR2 1066 944mhz. 4gb. PNY 8800GT/VD964 W/D RE2 Sata 3.0 500gb. There's a great power in words, if you don't hitch too many of them together.

05-24-2008, 11:45 PM	#14 (permalink)
funkysnair Diamond Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newcastle-England-uk Age: 26 Posts: 1,441	i think what is going to happen here is-im gonna just sell this as it is and start again!! i like evrything about my computer but i want to try stay a little behind the technology not miles-the longer i keep this rig the less it is worth. its intels fault its depreciating so rapidly-it is true amd just cant compete __________________ q6600@3.2ghz-asus p5k pro-4x1gig 1066mhz ballistix- raptor 74gig-maxitor 500gig-gainward hd4850- thermaltake tr2 550watt-sony/nec dvd rw- antec900 (liquid cooled mod)-swiftech pump/rad- 2x"19 widescreen acer monitors

05-24-2008, 11:52 PM	#16 (permalink)
StrangleHold Diamond Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: And you think your safe! Posts: 8,002	Well in Quads if you settle for the lower end AMDs you cant beat the price. But the 9750 and 9850 just cant compete at the price there selling them at. The Q6600 will beat either one and overclocks really well and is selling for the same price as the 9750. If the 9850 was 199 bucks I would say it was a good deal. But there 20 or 25 too high. AMD is suppost to release some lower wattage ones and drop to 45nm. later this year. __________________ NZXT Apollo Athlon 64 X2 5600 3.3ghz. Gigabyte GA MA770 DS3 G Skill DDR2 1066 944mhz. 4gb. PNY 8800GT/VD964 W/D RE2 Sata 3.0 500gb. There's a great power in words, if you don't hitch too many of them together.

05-25-2008, 12:05 AM	#19 (permalink)
lovely? Diamond Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: California Age: 16 Posts: 4,025	look into the Phenom 9100E it takes 30W less then the 9850 even when overclocked to the exact same speeds. it also seems to overclock just a LITTLE bit farther, which is great. __________________ E4500 @ 2.93GHZ COMING: E8400 ASUS P5K-DELUXE 2GB OCZ Reaper CL3 @ 800MHZ 3-4-4-15 eVGA 8800GT COMING: ATI 4850 OZC GameXStream 700W PSU 320GB WD Caviar SATA, 80GB WD Caviar IDE

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