First Computer Ever!

Jayhaide · 06-15-2008, 06:02 PM

Here are the parts that I am thinking of ordering:

Case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811146047

Hard Drive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148309

PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817182017
I dunno about the company that makes it.
good or bad?
will it power all my sh1t?

Video Card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814134037

RAM:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231098
One thing that confused me about buying ram is the cas latency. The lower, the faster it will react right? Then why do all the new ram like DDR 800 have cas latencys of 5 and the old DDR would have a latency of 2 or 3?

Motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813127030
I wasn't sure about how to pick a nice motherboard out.
I'll talk it over with my asian friends later today, but I just read off a website that this one is pretty good. But might be exceeding the requirements of the pc i'm going to build.

CPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115037
I was debating to whether get this one or the q6600.
I heard this one was better for gaming right now, so thats what i went with.

CPU fan:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835233003

I have yet to pick out a CD/DVD drive.
I have no clue what to look for in that, and i don't think it's very important either.

My budget is that i'd like to keep it under $800
All of this is running me about $810 right now without the cd driver.
My motherboard seemed pretty expensive so i'd like to get a cheaper one that would still runn all my gear.
Also, I think the CPU is kinda expensive from newegg, so if anyone could find the same one for less?

Space isn't a problem since the reviews said the case was very spacious.
But sound it a problem. I don't want to be very loud.

This is my first computer and i know VERY little about this stuff.
So any tips or suggestions would be awesome.

Thanks

Jayhaide · 06-15-2008, 06:23 PM

Here are some cheaper motherboards i've found:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128059

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131275

I think either of these would be good.

ducis · 06-15-2008, 06:39 PM

first of all what do you want your computer to do? (ie play games, multimedia ect)
this is an execellent case for quite computing:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129154
you'll want a bigger HHD like this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136178
RAM is so cheap you might as well get 4 gbs
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820220227

id go with a quad core cpu if i were you either the Q9300 or the Q9450
and this mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813136043

lovely? · 06-15-2008, 06:40 PM

the e8400 is good for gaming, you were not completely incorrect. however look at it this way. if you buy the e8400 now, in our make-believe game you will get about 100FPS and with a q6600 you would get about 85-90. you can only see up to 30fps so even though the e8400 really is better, you cant tell. now in two years, a new game will come out and that same e8400 will get like 25fps, which is playable but not good. the q6600 on the other hand will be doing quite well, at around 35-40fps. this is the advantage of two more cores.

ducis · 06-15-2008, 06:43 PM

oh and for the psu this should be more then enough power
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139003

ducis · 06-15-2008, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lovely?

the E8400 Is Good For Gaming, You Were Not Completely Incorrect. However Look At It This Way. If You Buy The E8400 Now, In Our Make-believe Game You Will Get About 100fps And With A Q6600 You Would Get About 85-90. You Can Only See Up To 30fps So Even Though The E8400 Really Is Better, You Cant Tell. Now In Two Years, A New Game Will Come Out And That Same E8400 Will Get Like 25fps, Which Is Playable But Not Good. The Q6600 On The Other Hand Will Be Doing Quite Well, At Around 35-40fps. This Is The Advantage Of Two More Cores.

Qft

Jayhaide · 06-15-2008, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lovely?

the e8400 is good for gaming, you were not completely incorrect. however look at it this way. if you buy the e8400 now, in our make-believe game you will get about 100FPS and with a q6600 you would get about 85-90. you can only see up to 30fps so even though the e8400 really is better, you cant tell. now in two years, a new game will come out and that same e8400 will get like 25fps, which is playable but not good. the q6600 on the other hand will be doing quite well, at around 35-40fps. this is the advantage of two more cores.

the human eye can't tell anything higher than 60 fps - thats wut i've heard.
for some reason, my REALLY sh1tty computer(6 years old, tons of viruses, 20 min start up (if i'm lucky), 512 ram, 5 series graphics card, single core cpu) i get 100 fps for cs.

i don't understand how people play games at under 60 fps.
theres just so much delay.

i get wut ur saying, but if i buy the e8400 now, can i upgrade to a high end quad core later? is cpu something i can just take out and put back it? cause i was thinking of getting the e8400 now, and in 2 years, upgrade to the really high end quad core.

also, for like programs that we use form day to day (itunes, photoshop, movie players) which one would run faster?
or would they be about the same?

Jayhaide · 06-15-2008, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firsttimebuilder

first of all what do you want your computer to do? (ie play games, multimedia ect)
this is an execellent case for quite computing:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129154
you'll want a bigger HHD like this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136178
RAM is so cheap you might as well get 4 gbs
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820220227

id go with a quad core cpu if i were you either the Q9300 or the Q9450
and this mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813136043

i'm going to be using it mostly for gaming.
i don't think i'm ever going to need more than 250 gigs, but wtf? how are the 250 gig and the 500 gig the same price?

also, my friend told my about raid 0 or raid 1, something like that. it's supposed to combine 2 hds and let them share the data?
how would i go about installing that?

ducis · 06-15-2008, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayhaide

i'm going to be using it mostly for gaming.
i don't think i'm ever going to need more than 250 gigs, but wtf? how are the 250 gig and the 500 gig the same price?

also, my friend told my about raid 0 or raid 1, something like that. it's supposed to combine 2 hds and let them share the data?
how would i go about installing that?

if you need to know you probably shouldn't be doing it.
buy a raid controller or an mobo with an onboard one and configer the 2 hdds in your harddrive

ducis · 06-15-2008, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayhaide

the human eye can't tell anything higher than 60 fps - thats wut i've heard.
for some reason, my REALLY sh1tty computer(6 years old, tons of viruses, 20 min start up (if i'm lucky), 512 ram, 5 series graphics card, single core cpu) i get 100 fps for cs.

i don't understand how people play games at under 60 fps.
theres just so much delay.

i get wut ur saying, but if i buy the e8400 now, can i upgrade to a high end quad core later? is cpu something i can just take out and put back it? cause i was thinking of getting the e8400 now, and in 2 years, upgrade to the really high end quad core.

also, for like programs that we use form day to day (itunes, photoshop, movie players) which one would run faster?
or would they be about the same?

you can switch the cpu yes but i don't know if you'd want to by a new cpu every year
are you building this yourself or is your friend doing it for you?

06-15-2008, 06:02 PM	#1 (permalink)
Jayhaide New Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 9	First Computer Ever! Here are the parts that I am thinking of ordering: Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811146047 Hard Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148309 PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817182017 I dunno about the company that makes it. good or bad? will it power all my sh1t? Video Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814134037 RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231098 One thing that confused me about buying ram is the cas latency. The lower, the faster it will react right? Then why do all the new ram like DDR 800 have cas latencys of 5 and the old DDR would have a latency of 2 or 3? Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813127030 I wasn't sure about how to pick a nice motherboard out. I'll talk it over with my asian friends later today, but I just read off a website that this one is pretty good. But might be exceeding the requirements of the pc i'm going to build. CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115037 I was debating to whether get this one or the q6600. I heard this one was better for gaming right now, so thats what i went with. CPU fan: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835233003 I have yet to pick out a CD/DVD drive. I have no clue what to look for in that, and i don't think it's very important either. My budget is that i'd like to keep it under $800 All of this is running me about $810 right now without the cd driver. My motherboard seemed pretty expensive so i'd like to get a cheaper one that would still runn all my gear. Also, I think the CPU is kinda expensive from newegg, so if anyone could find the same one for less? Space isn't a problem since the reviews said the case was very spacious. But sound it a problem. I don't want to be very loud. This is my first computer and i know VERY little about this stuff. So any tips or suggestions would be awesome. Thanks Last edited by Jayhaide; 06-15-2008 at 06:34 PM.

06-15-2008, 06:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
Jayhaide New Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 9	Here are some cheaper motherboards i've found: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128059 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131275 I think either of these would be good. Last edited by Jayhaide; 06-15-2008 at 06:28 PM.

06-15-2008, 06:39 PM	#3 (permalink)
ducis Diamond Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A Canadian Summer Posts: 1,340	first of all what do you want your computer to do? (ie play games, multimedia ect) this is an execellent case for quite computing: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129154 you'll want a bigger HHD like this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136178 RAM is so cheap you might as well get 4 gbs http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820220227 id go with a quad core cpu if i were you either the Q9300 or the Q9450 and this mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813136043 __________________ formerly firsttimebuilder pm me for any questions on sub ambient cooling FOLDING FOR THE GOOD OF MANKIND :F@H Team 44358 My Guide to Benchmark Cooling Free Website Hosting!

06-15-2008, 06:40 PM	#4 (permalink)
lovely? Diamond Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: California Age: 15 Posts: 3,739	the e8400 is good for gaming, you were not completely incorrect. however look at it this way. if you buy the e8400 now, in our make-believe game you will get about 100FPS and with a q6600 you would get about 85-90. you can only see up to 30fps so even though the e8400 really is better, you cant tell. now in two years, a new game will come out and that same e8400 will get like 25fps, which is playable but not good. the q6600 on the other hand will be doing quite well, at around 35-40fps. this is the advantage of two more cores. __________________ E4500 @ 2.93GHZ ASUS P5K-DELUXE 2GB OCZ Reaper CL3 @ 800MHZ 3-4-4-15 eVGA 8800GT OZC GameXStream 700W PSU 320GB WD Caviar SATA, 80GB WD Caviar IDE Sometimes scientists make things alot harder than they need to. All they've gotta do is put a big spring on the ground where they think it's gonna land, or send a mission to the moon to erect a sign that says "Welcome to Earth".

06-15-2008, 06:43 PM	#5 (permalink)
ducis Diamond Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A Canadian Summer Posts: 1,340	oh and for the psu this should be more then enough power http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139003 __________________ formerly firsttimebuilder pm me for any questions on sub ambient cooling FOLDING FOR THE GOOD OF MANKIND :F@H Team 44358 My Guide to Benchmark Cooling Free Website Hosting!

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