mATX OC'ing

WhiteFireDragon · 06-19-2008, 11:02 PM

i was just wondering if the "N73PV LGA 775 NVIDIA GeForce 7100/ nforce 630i" motherboard has good overclocking features? i looked at the online manual but it doesn't give in depth options. does it have CPU, memory, and PCIe frequency control? and can you change voltages for CPU, memory, NB, and SB?

Interested · 06-20-2008, 03:22 AM

i have no clue, but i highly doubt it. its an mATX board which is meant to run at stock speeds and just serve its purpose at stock speeds. and if its in a mATX case, you dont really want to overclock, its just to small. if im not mistaken, the 630i, is a low end chipset.

WhiteFireDragon · 06-20-2008, 06:26 AM

ya i guess 600i series is a low end, but my 610i mATX right now OC pretty good for the price and form factor.

fortyways · 06-20-2008, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Interested

i have no clue, but i highly doubt it. its an mATX board which is meant to run at stock speeds and just serve its purpose at stock speeds. and if its in a mATX case, you dont really want to overclock, its just to small. if im not mistaken, the 630i, is a low end chipset.

If you have no clue, why did you reply? And what does the size of the case have to with overclocking? And from where do you derive that mATX boards are just meant to server their purpose at stock speeds? If this is true, why do they have overclocking features to begin with? How many mATX boards have you personally designed?

In any case, OP, from reading the cons on the page you linked it would appear that the board only has options for changing CPU voltage (which is really all you need for overclocking an nVidia chipset because you can set the RAM to unlinked).

I own a low-end 600i board myself (no voltage options outside of CPU) with which I was able to overclock an E2160 to 3.0GHz and an E1200 to 2.66GHz at stock voltages (I didn't try to push it). However, this is more of a demonstration of the overclockability of those processors than the motherboard.

Interested · 06-20-2008, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by fortyways

If you have no clue, why did you reply? And what does the size of the case have to with overclocking? And from where do you derive that mATX boards are just meant to server their purpose at stock speeds? If this is true, why do they have overclocking features to begin with? How many mATX boards have you personally designed?

In any case, OP, from reading the cons on the page you linked it would appear that the board only has options for changing CPU voltage (which is really all you need for overclocking an nVidia chipset because you can set the RAM to unlinked).

I own a low-end 600i board myself (no voltage options outside of CPU) with which I was able to overclock an E2160 to 3.0GHz and an E1200 to 2.66GHz at stock voltages (I didn't try to push it). However, this is more of a demonstration of the overclockability of those processors than the motherboard.

well, i thought that since the cases they are put into are small, which is bad, because there is poor air circulation, which will cause the system to stay hot, which is bad, which means that it is poor for overclocking? got it? why do you have to spazz out over every post?

fortyways · 06-20-2008, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Interested

well, i thought that since the cases they are put into are small, which is bad, because there is poor air circulation, which will cause the system to stay hot, which is bad, which means that it is poor for overclocking? got it? why do you have to spazz out over every post?

Claiming that I'm "spazzing out" when I confront your invalid logic isn't going to save you from scrutiny, and it's pathetic, so stop.

Now, let's follow your lovely little line of logic until we find a fallacy:

"..are small, which is bad, because there is poor air circulation"

Oops! Now, I normally make it a point to not argue about whose equipment is better, because.. well, because I'm not retarded. But I think I can make an exception here.

This is your ATX case, the Raidmax Smilodon, is it not? Nice case. Steel construction is sturdy and doesn't vibrate as much as aluminum, and a 120mm front fan should enable you to cool your hard drive(s) adequately and quietly.

Let me stop here to explain something to you: your assumption that mATX cases have inferior cooling is not entirely untrue, but you misunderstand the causation. The smaller physical size of mATX cases doesn't magically cause them have lower airflow, it just means that in some situations, mATX cases won't have room for a 120mm intake and exhaust, which could hurt cooling performance.

ATX towers are great because they always have room for OH WAIT WHAT'S THAT? An 80mm exhaust fan, on your expensive, superior XTREME GAEMEN ATX case? A loud, inferior, inefficient cooling solution?

So, let's see: steel construction (doesn't dissipate heat as fast as aluminum), and an 80mm exhaust fan. That puts your XTREAM GAYMEN case on par with something like this.

I currently own two mATX cases, which can be seen here and here.

The first one, the P180 mini, obviously blows your case out of the water along with nearly every other mid tower case. Two 120mm intakes, one 120mm exhaust, and a 200mm top exhaust put it on par with the Antec 900, and the power supply being isolated in its own chamber puts it another step above.

However, I won't count this because it's really rather large for a mATX case, almost as tall as mid towers (in consistency with the rest of the P180 line).

The second link is my girlfriend's case, the Cooler Master Elite 340. 120mm intake, 120mm exhaust, aluminum construction, top mounted power supply. Pretty much the baseline for good cooling performance. This puts it on par with your average ATX mid tower case (and a step above poorly designed cases like yours).

ducis · 06-20-2008, 09:22 PM

as far a MATX boards go, nothing beats the DFI lanparty brand in overclocking

WhiteFireDragon · 06-20-2008, 10:39 PM

what fortways said about mATX cases is true. generally standard atx cases will have better cooling, but a lot of the mATX are also good. mine current has good airflow with a front and side 120mm intake and rear 90mm exhaust. most of my wires are tucked in the back of the mobo tray so there is no cables blocking except for two sata cables, which is also almost out of the way. i also fit one of THESE heatsink/fan on there, so mATX cooling is not a problem for me

anyways, i just wanted to know about the mobo. my current gigabyte mobo is great for OC'ing for the price ($55). i just wanted to know if that zotac mobo also has the same features. what i really need is the vcore option because i dont want stock CPU voltage as the limiting factor. the memory speed is fine, as i dont need to OC it since 800mhz is fast enough. so pretty much, all i need is CPU frequency and voltage, and maybe memory divider from that zotac mobo. anyone know if that's possible?

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Originally Posted by firsttimebuilder

as far a MATX boards go, nothing beats the DFI lanparty brand in overclocking

the current mATX DFI is total crap because it uses SiS chipset. but in a month or so, i'm pretty sure DFI's new p45 chipset in mATX size will dominate the mATX boards when it comes to the high end boards. except, i probably wont get it because i cant afford the premium prices. the current gigabyte board i have has enough OC'ing feature for me to reach 3.5ghz with an e2180 and it's only $55 for the board

Interested · 06-21-2008, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fortyways

Claiming that I'm "spazzing out" when I confront your invalid logic isn't going to save you from scrutiny, and it's pathetic, so stop.

Now, let's follow your lovely little line of logic until we find a fallacy:

"..are small, which is bad, because there is poor air circulation"

Oops! Now, I normally make it a point to not argue about whose equipment is better, because.. well, because I'm not retarded. But I think I can make an exception here.

This is your ATX case, the Raidmax Smilodon, is it not? Nice case. Steel construction is sturdy and doesn't vibrate as much as aluminum, and a 120mm front fan should enable you to cool your hard drive(s) adequately and quietly.

Let me stop here to explain something to you: your assumption that mATX cases have inferior cooling is not entirely untrue, but you misunderstand the causation. The smaller physical size of mATX cases doesn't magically cause them have lower airflow, it just means that in some situations, mATX cases won't have room for a 120mm intake and exhaust, which could hurt cooling performance.

ATX towers are great because they always have room for OH WAIT WHAT'S THAT? An 80mm exhaust fan, on your expensive, superior XTREME GAEMEN ATX case? A loud, inferior, inefficient cooling solution?

So, let's see: steel construction (doesn't dissipate heat as fast as aluminum), and an 80mm exhaust fan. That puts your XTREAM GAYMEN case on par with something like this.

I currently own two mATX cases, which can be seen here and here.

The first one, the P180 mini, obviously blows your case out of the water along with nearly every other mid tower case. Two 120mm intakes, one 120mm exhaust, and a 200mm top exhaust put it on par with the Antec 900, and the power supply being isolated in its own chamber puts it another step above.

However, I won't count this because it's really rather large for a mATX case, almost as tall as mid towers (in consistency with the rest of the P180 line).

The second link is my girlfriend's case, the Cooler Master Elite 340. 120mm intake, 120mm exhaust, aluminum construction, top mounted power supply. Pretty much the baseline for good cooling performance. This puts it on par with your average ATX mid tower case (and a step above poorly designed cases like yours).

lol. your cool. ub3r 1337 C00l3r M45+3r 340. I like my Inferior XTREAME GAYMEN case more. lol. that was funny though. i will give you that. oh yea, and that retarded little case thing was funny too. lol. i wish my mommy could buy me some cooler fridged icy master case to make popsicles in. oh yea, and my friend has the antec 900. its ok, but its loud as hell. it also doesnt really make a difference in temps either, but thats jsut my experience. im sorry i dont have money to spend on a good case. now i will cry myself to sleep.

fortyways · 06-21-2008, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by interested

lol. Your Cool. Ub3r 1337 C00l3r M45+3r 340. I Like My Inferior Xtreame Gaymen Case More. Lol. That Was Funny Though. I Will Give You That. Oh Yea, And That Retarded Little Case Thing Was Funny Too. Lol. I Wish My Mommy Could Buy Me Some Cooler Fridged Icy Master Case To Make Popsicles In. Oh Yea, And My Friend Has The Antec 900. Its Ok, But Its Loud As Hell. It Also Doesnt Really Make A Difference In Temps Either, But Thats Jsut My Experience. Im Sorry I Dont Have Money To Spend On A Good Case. Now I Will Cry Myself To Sleep.

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06-19-2008, 11:02 PM	#1 (permalink)
WhiteFireDragon Platinum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 664	mATX OC'ing i was just wondering if the "N73PV LGA 775 NVIDIA GeForce 7100/ nforce 630i" motherboard has good overclocking features? i looked at the online manual but it doesn't give in depth options. does it have CPU, memory, and PCIe frequency control? and can you change voltages for CPU, memory, NB, and SB? __________________ e2180 @ 3.2ghz maximus II 7900gt 512mb 2x1gb tracers @ 800mhz audigy 2zs 74gb raptor HX520watts

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Interested Platinum Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: PA Age: 14 Posts: 793	i have no clue, but i highly doubt it. its an mATX board which is meant to run at stock speeds and just serve its purpose at stock speeds. and if its in a mATX case, you dont really want to overclock, its just to small. if im not mistaken, the 630i, is a low end chipset. __________________ Main: \| On The Go Device: Q6600 @ 3.0 w/ ACF7P \| 620MHz ARM 1176 4GB DDR2 800 \| 128MB DRAM P35-DS3L \| 16GB Samsung NAND 250GB seagate disk X2 \| PowerVR MBX 3D 8600GT

06-20-2008, 06:26 AM	#3 (permalink)
WhiteFireDragon Platinum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 664	ya i guess 600i series is a low end, but my 610i mATX right now OC pretty good for the price and form factor. __________________ e2180 @ 3.2ghz maximus II 7900gt 512mb 2x1gb tracers @ 800mhz audigy 2zs 74gb raptor HX520watts

06-20-2008, 09:22 PM	#7 (permalink)
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