Dslr suggestions

Sir Travis D · 07-16-2008, 12:53 AM

But this lens
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16830998148

Looks like it can zoom 4x as much as the base lens, and can take more than 2x as close portraits..

ukulele_ninja · 07-16-2008, 12:57 AM

yes but its not going to have telephoto zoom which is what i believe you think it will have...

Im trying to be condescending and i hope you dont see it that way im trying to help, but what reasons do you REALLY have to buy a dslr over a high end P&S that you could learn to shoot manual on in preparation for a nice dslr one day?

Sir Travis D · 07-16-2008, 01:06 AM

What reasons do I want to have a dslr?

1. Professional photographers have them
2. I want to learn by using one
3. I need a better camera than the one right now
4. They take better pictures
5. They look better

What is the difference between a telephoto and the link I suggested? I don't see how a $900+ camera will not take decent portraits and zooms.

ukulele_ninja · 07-16-2008, 01:13 AM

In response to...

1. 'Professionals' dont own XLI's... Professionals also own more than one lens and spent a hell of a lot of money on them than $400. The cheapest one I bought was almost $700

2. The only somewhat acceptable reason you gave

3.A high end P&S would be better than what you have now and easier for you too

4. Only if the user knows how to take better pictures

5.So you want one to make you look cool?

Research the difference between standard zoom and telephoto lens. Also research f-stops and shutter speeds and how they work together. PLEASE do your research before you go out and spend bookoo bucks on a camera you will buy then wonder why it doesnt take 'professional' looking pictures for you.

Sir Travis D · 07-16-2008, 01:19 AM

It did take good pictures when I tried it at staples. I don't need to get a telephoto lens when I first get it anyway.

**jimmymac** · 07-16-2008, 01:38 AM

As Uke says, its really worth weighing up just how much you need/how much you will use a Digital SLR as it can become quite a money hole once you really get into it.

My current setup with mine has cost me near £900 ($1800) thus far and i'm still looking to add more to it. However I try to take it absolutely everywhere with me and even plan specific days to go places where my main aim is to take pictures.

If your taking pictures of family and friend and the odd landscape shot here or there then its a fairly impractical solution when a decent point and shoot would do a more than capable job.

It can become a quite involved hobby in the end, a thoroughly rewarding one at that but its not one you should get into if you think you might see the newness of it wear off insde a couple of months.

If it is something you really want to get into then your best bet is just to get camera and the packaged lens (usually an 18-55mm) and use that as a starting base. Yes the lens can't zoom massively but it will still produce some fantastic pictures and give you a chance to get a hang of the camera and its various functions and see if its really for you. From there you can look to invest in a new lens at a later date, choosing a new lens is more often than not more difficult than choosing a camera itself as theres far more variety out there.

ukulele_ninja · 07-16-2008, 01:44 AM

amen jimmy, lol maybe he will listen to you because hes not getting what im trying to tell him.

**jimmymac** · 07-16-2008, 01:49 AM

i don't thin i even realised what an investment it was until the day I had to get all my equipment insured

ukulele_ninja · 07-16-2008, 01:50 AM

^^^ eeks! I havnt reached that point yet but im probably getting close... how much does your insurance typically cost you and what does it cover?

Sir Travis D · 07-16-2008, 02:00 AM

Ok, so I'll use the 18-55mm zoom lens, and bring my telescope and take zoom pictures through my telescope.

Lol, I'm sure I could use the default lens for a while.

07-16-2008, 12:57 AM	#2 (permalink)
ukulele_ninja VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ohio Age: 23 Posts: 4,197	yes but its not going to have telephoto zoom which is what i believe you think it will have... Im trying to be condescending and i hope you dont see it that way im trying to help, but what reasons do you REALLY have to buy a dslr over a high end P&S that you could learn to shoot manual on in preparation for a nice dslr one day? __________________ http://raptr.com/badge/7183de702f2e4...bbc43e0/fs.png

07-16-2008, 01:13 AM	#4 (permalink)
ukulele_ninja VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ohio Age: 23 Posts: 4,197	In response to... 1. 'Professionals' dont own XLI's... Professionals also own more than one lens and spent a hell of a lot of money on them than $400. The cheapest one I bought was almost $700 2. The only somewhat acceptable reason you gave 3.A high end P&S would be better than what you have now and easier for you too 4. Only if the user knows how to take better pictures 5.So you want one to make you look cool? Research the difference between standard zoom and telephoto lens. Also research f-stops and shutter speeds and how they work together. PLEASE do your research before you go out and spend bookoo bucks on a camera you will buy then wonder why it doesnt take 'professional' looking pictures for you. __________________ http://raptr.com/badge/7183de702f2e4...bbc43e0/fs.png

07-16-2008, 01:38 AM	#6 (permalink)
jimmymac Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Chester, UK Posts: 3,987	As Uke says, its really worth weighing up just how much you need/how much you will use a Digital SLR as it can become quite a money hole once you really get into it. My current setup with mine has cost me near £900 ($1800) thus far and i'm still looking to add more to it. However I try to take it absolutely everywhere with me and even plan specific days to go places where my main aim is to take pictures. If your taking pictures of family and friend and the odd landscape shot here or there then its a fairly impractical solution when a decent point and shoot would do a more than capable job. It can become a quite involved hobby in the end, a thoroughly rewarding one at that but its not one you should get into if you think you might see the newness of it wear off insde a couple of months. If it is something you really want to get into then your best bet is just to get camera and the packaged lens (usually an 18-55mm) and use that as a starting base. Yes the lens can't zoom massively but it will still produce some fantastic pictures and give you a chance to get a hang of the camera and its various functions and see if its really for you. From there you can look to invest in a new lens at a later date, choosing a new lens is more often than not more difficult than choosing a camera itself as theres far more variety out there. __________________ I tried to put my signature in here but my pen ruined the monitor. https://www.photoshop.com/user/jimmymac

07-16-2008, 01:44 AM	#7 (permalink)
ukulele_ninja VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ohio Age: 23 Posts: 4,197	amen jimmy, lol maybe he will listen to you because hes not getting what im trying to tell him. __________________ http://raptr.com/badge/7183de702f2e4...bbc43e0/fs.png

07-16-2008, 01:49 AM	#8 (permalink)
jimmymac Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Chester, UK Posts: 3,987	i don't thin i even realised what an investment it was until the day I had to get all my equipment insured __________________ I tried to put my signature in here but my pen ruined the monitor. https://www.photoshop.com/user/jimmymac

07-16-2008, 12:53 AM	#1 (permalink)
Sir Travis D banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Age: 15 Posts: 1,612	But this lens http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16830998148 Looks like it can zoom 4x as much as the base lens, and can take more than 2x as close portraits..

07-16-2008, 01:06 AM	#3 (permalink)
Sir Travis D banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Age: 15 Posts: 1,612	What reasons do I want to have a dslr? 1. Professional photographers have them 2. I want to learn by using one 3. I need a better camera than the one right now 4. They take better pictures 5. They look better What is the difference between a telephoto and the link I suggested? I don't see how a $900+ camera will not take decent portraits and zooms.

07-16-2008, 01:19 AM	#5 (permalink)
Sir Travis D banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Age: 15 Posts: 1,612	It did take good pictures when I tried it at staples. I don't need to get a telephoto lens when I first get it anyway.

07-16-2008, 01:50 AM	#9 (permalink)
ukulele_ninja VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ohio Age: 23 Posts: 4,197	^^^ eeks! I havnt reached that point yet but im probably getting close... how much does your insurance typically cost you and what does it cover? __________________ http://raptr.com/badge/7183de702f2e4...bbc43e0/fs.png

07-16-2008, 02:00 AM	#10 (permalink)
Sir Travis D banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Age: 15 Posts: 1,612	Ok, so I'll use the 18-55mm zoom lens, and bring my telescope and take zoom pictures through my telescope. Lol, I'm sure I could use the default lens for a while.

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