Intel Core Duo T2400 vs. Intel Core Duo 2 T2390

alansupra94 · 07-18-2008, 12:49 AM

Which is faster and why? I have both and I am wondering what will be faster?

Thanks
Alan

jdbennet · 07-18-2008, 01:01 AM

The core is an older chip. its not 64 bit, so its not futureproofed. Also, its slow as it doesnt have its own memory unit on the chip itself, which also makes it terribly slow for floating point calculations,

The core2 is newer, supports 64 bit, and fixes many of the shortcomings of the original core.

Go for the core2.

hackapelite · 07-18-2008, 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdbennet

The core is an older chip. its not 64 bit, so its not futureproofed. Also, its slow as it doesnt have its own memory unit on the chip itself, which also makes it terribly slow for floating point calculations,

The core2 is newer, supports 64 bit, and fixes many of the shortcomings of the original core.

Go for the core2.

Yes, go for core 2, but... what do you mean it doesn't have its own memory unit? All CPUs have some kind of cache, and only AMD CPUs have onboard memory controllers. Also, memory speed is a minor factor as far as floating-point calculations are concerned.

jdbennet · 07-18-2008, 08:28 AM

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=2808&p=4

look here

hackapelite · 07-18-2008, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdbennet

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=2808&p=4

look here

I looked there, but learned nothing new. Care to explain/give a quote?

jdbennet · 07-18-2008, 10:10 AM

Go at it at the point of view of a low level ASM programmer...

The core is slower than the core2 at doing floating point calculations due to the fact that it has only a single FPU and SSE unit. This makes a big difference in games. Due to the fact this single unit is shared between the two cores, and intek chips dont have an onboard MMU, it is very slow because its a bottleneck as everything has to up via the northbridge and then back into the other core. If both threads try to do FP calculations, it grinds to a halt.

The core2 adds more FPUs and SSE units , which reduces this bottleneck. Also it has an extra ALU which speeds up tasks which make use of two threads (many games use one thread to perform one calculation, and another to do a seperate one, then they want to do something with the results. As the core2 has 3 ALUs as opposed to two, this makes it much faster as it allows complex calculations without having to put the result in main memory or on the stack.

Thats why the core2 is substantially faster at calculations.

hackapelite · 07-18-2008, 10:44 AM

Ah yea, I saw that

I though you actually meant to say that Core CPUs would suck at FPU calculations BECAUSE of the missing MMU, not because of having fewer FPU units... my bad, my bad.

2048Megabytes · 07-18-2008, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdbennet

The core2 adds more FPUs and SSE units , which reduces this bottleneck. Also it has an extra ALU which speeds up tasks which make use of two threads (many games use one thread to perform one calculation, and another to do a seperate one, then they want to do something with the results. As the core2 has 3 ALUs as opposed to two, this makes it much faster as it allows complex calculations without having to put the result in main memory or on the stack.

I do believe you are misinformed. Dual-Core processors have four Arithmetic Logic Units, not three.

alansupra94 · 07-22-2008, 01:29 AM

Just putting this out there but the T2400 has a faster clock speed than the T2390....I am not sure if that makes a difference or anything....

2048Megabytes · 07-23-2008, 01:24 AM

From my knowledge the Core Duo T2400 processor is faster than the Pentium Dual-Core Mobile Processor T2390. The reason it is faster is the Core Duo T2400 has more cache than the T2390.

Cache (also called Static-RAM or S-RAM) is a small amount of high speed memory that is much faster than primary storage random access memory. It speeds overall computer performance by temporarily holding data the processor may use in the near future.

Clock speed of a processor (currently expressed in gigahertz or GHz) is becoming less important as processor technologies are being improved.

Something else interesting to know is that gigahertz means 1 billion cycles per second.

07-18-2008, 12:49 AM	#1 (permalink)
alansupra94 Bronze Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 27	Intel Core Duo T2400 vs. Intel Core Duo 2 T2390 Which is faster and why? I have both and I am wondering what will be faster? Thanks Alan

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07-23-2008, 01:24 AM	#10 (permalink)
2048Megabytes Diamond Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Mainland United States Posts: 1,016	From my knowledge the Core Duo T2400 processor is faster than the Pentium Dual-Core Mobile Processor T2390. The reason it is faster is the Core Duo T2400 has more cache than the T2390. Cache (also called Static-RAM or S-RAM) is a small amount of high speed memory that is much faster than primary storage random access memory. It speeds overall computer performance by temporarily holding data the processor may use in the near future. Clock speed of a processor (currently expressed in gigahertz or GHz) is becoming less important as processor technologies are being improved. Something else interesting to know is that gigahertz means 1 billion cycles per second. __________________ "Few men have virtue to withstand the highest bidder." -- George Washington Processor: AMD Athlon 4600+ Dual-Core (2.4 gigahertz) Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-M78SM-S2H Memory: 2 gigabytes of Super Talent PC2-6400 Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 3650 Power Supply: OCZ StealthXStream OCZ600SXS 600 Watt Operating System: 32-bit Windows Vista Service Pack 1 Favorite Video Games: Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon, Luxor 2

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07-18-2008, 01:01 AM	#2 (permalink)
jdbennet Diamond Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: England / Dundee Posts: 1,653	The core is an older chip. its not 64 bit, so its not futureproofed. Also, its slow as it doesnt have its own memory unit on the chip itself, which also makes it terribly slow for floating point calculations, The core2 is newer, supports 64 bit, and fixes many of the shortcomings of the original core. Go for the core2.

07-18-2008, 08:28 AM	#4 (permalink)
jdbennet Diamond Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: England / Dundee Posts: 1,653	http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=2808&p=4 look here

07-18-2008, 10:10 AM	#6 (permalink)
jdbennet Diamond Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: England / Dundee Posts: 1,653	Go at it at the point of view of a low level ASM programmer... The core is slower than the core2 at doing floating point calculations due to the fact that it has only a single FPU and SSE unit. This makes a big difference in games. Due to the fact this single unit is shared between the two cores, and intek chips dont have an onboard MMU, it is very slow because its a bottleneck as everything has to up via the northbridge and then back into the other core. If both threads try to do FP calculations, it grinds to a halt. The core2 adds more FPUs and SSE units , which reduces this bottleneck. Also it has an extra ALU which speeds up tasks which make use of two threads (many games use one thread to perform one calculation, and another to do a seperate one, then they want to do something with the results. As the core2 has 3 ALUs as opposed to two, this makes it much faster as it allows complex calculations without having to put the result in main memory or on the stack. Thats why the core2 is substantially faster at calculations.

07-22-2008, 01:29 AM	#9 (permalink)
alansupra94 Bronze Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 27	Just putting this out there but the T2400 has a faster clock speed than the T2390....I am not sure if that makes a difference or anything....