PCI Express 16x or AGP 8x PRo...Faster?

randruff · 05-04-2005, 05:43 AM

which one is better?

kiker · 05-04-2005, 12:59 PM

Pci express still beats it

kiker · 05-04-2005, 01:00 PM

16x u see

randruff · 05-04-2005, 01:35 PM

Thank ya, much appreciated! The whole "PCI" thing was throwin me off.

[-0MEGA-] · 05-04-2005, 02:13 PM

PCI-Express x16 is faster, but not all motherboards support it.

Deathreaper · 05-04-2005, 02:22 PM

Actually in performance reviews on most cards the AGP version will push more FPS then a PCI express version
Reason:Most Video Cards that are out were originally built on the AGP platform and then converted to PCI express...so in actuality a card designed for AGP then converted to PCI express will not perform better then its intented counterpart...the bottleneck being the card design. There are all kinds of performance reviews on the net for instance an X800XL AGP is roughly 8% Faster then an X800XL PCI....same with the 6800 series....however SLI will compensate for that. The bandwith s of PCI Express are no where near being fullfilled, however the future of video cards is definetly PCI express...but if you own an AGP board with decent system...and are not looking to upgrade mobo, processor, etc...but are looking to upgrade video cards...you are still safe with AGP until probaly the next gen of cards

**Praetor** · 05-04-2005, 10:28 PM

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Actually in performance reviews on most cards the AGP version will push more FPS then a PCI express version
Reason:Most Video Cards that are out were originally built on the AGP platform and then converted to PCI express...so in actuality a card designed for AGP then converted to PCI express will not perform better then its intented counterpart...the bottleneck being the card design. There are all kinds of performance reviews on the net for instance an X800XL AGP is roughly 8% Faster then an X800XL PCI....same with the 6800 series....however SLI will compensate for that. The bandwith s of PCI Express are no where near being fullfilled, however the future of video cards is definetly PCI express...but if you own an AGP board with decent system...and are not looking to upgrade mobo, processor, etc...but are looking to upgrade video cards...you are still safe with AGP until probaly the next gen of cards

Actually that doesnt happen: consider the 6600 series which is PCIe native -- the conversion to AGP takes out 50MHz on the memory clock.

Blue · 05-04-2005, 11:19 PM

Well to be put simply, PCI-Express is not just yet much faster then any agp setup as 8X AGP has not even reached it's bandwidth limit and seems that it never will as it'll be slowly edged out as PCI was before it. Anyone building a new system today would be best off purchasing a board that is PCI-Express capable as they will be set for today and tomorrow.

05-04-2005, 05:43 AM	#1 (permalink)
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05-04-2005, 12:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
kiker New Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 9	Pci express still beats it __________________ Proccessor: Intel Pentium 4 Willamette 1,7 Ghz Sdram Memory: 640Mb(512+128)/133Mhz MOTHERBOARD: Intel D845WN (Chipset:Intel i845) Hard Disc Drive: MAXTOR 30 Gb 7200rpm Graphics Card: ATi Radeon 9200Se 128MB CD WRITER: Nec 24x10x40 DVD ROM: LG Floppy disc: Simple White Sound Card: On Board (Motherboard) Monitor : 17'' Sony Trinitron Multiscan E220

05-04-2005, 01:00 PM	#3 (permalink)
kiker New Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 9	16x u see __________________ Proccessor: Intel Pentium 4 Willamette 1,7 Ghz Sdram Memory: 640Mb(512+128)/133Mhz MOTHERBOARD: Intel D845WN (Chipset:Intel i845) Hard Disc Drive: MAXTOR 30 Gb 7200rpm Graphics Card: ATi Radeon 9200Se 128MB CD WRITER: Nec 24x10x40 DVD ROM: LG Floppy disc: Simple White Sound Card: On Board (Motherboard) Monitor : 17'' Sony Trinitron Multiscan E220

05-04-2005, 02:13 PM	#5 (permalink)
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05-04-2005, 02:22 PM	#6 (permalink)
Deathreaper New Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 7	Actually in performance reviews on most cards the AGP version will push more FPS then a PCI express version Reason:Most Video Cards that are out were originally built on the AGP platform and then converted to PCI express...so in actuality a card designed for AGP then converted to PCI express will not perform better then its intented counterpart...the bottleneck being the card design. There are all kinds of performance reviews on the net for instance an X800XL AGP is roughly 8% Faster then an X800XL PCI....same with the 6800 series....however SLI will compensate for that. The bandwith s of PCI Express are no where near being fullfilled, however the future of video cards is definetly PCI express...but if you own an AGP board with decent system...and are not looking to upgrade mobo, processor, etc...but are looking to upgrade video cards...you are still safe with AGP until probaly the next gen of cards __________________ -AMD Athlon 64 3400+ 939 (Thermaltake Big Typhoon) -1 GB Dual Channel Kingston (512 X 2) -X800 XT All in Wonder -Asus A8V Deluxe (Revision 2) -Western Digital 80GB SATA -Western Digital 160Gb SATA -Case = MGE VIPER 500W PSU -Sony DRU-530A -MSI X48 Combo Drive :cool:

05-04-2005, 01:35 PM	#4 (permalink)
randruff Platinum Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: 30 min south of iraq....oops....Detroit. Age: 27 Posts: 742	Thank ya, much appreciated! The whole "PCI" thing was throwin me off.

05-04-2005, 11:19 PM	#8 (permalink)
Blue VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: London Ontario Age: 35 Posts: 3,555	Well to be put simply, PCI-Express is not just yet much faster then any agp setup as 8X AGP has not even reached it's bandwidth limit and seems that it never will as it'll be slowly edged out as PCI was before it. Anyone building a new system today would be best off purchasing a board that is PCI-Express capable as they will be set for today and tomorrow. __________________ FOLDING FOR THE GOOD OF MANKIND :F@H Team 44358

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