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09-02-2008, 06:47 PM
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Theoretically
Assuming my CPU isn't my bottleneck at system startup, would moving all of my program files onto an external HDD improve system performance at startup, or whenever the internal HDD is used? I have a lot of programs that run on startup, and I may want to run XFire and Steam on startup too but I don't want to sacrifice system performance. I can get a 320GB external HDD for $90 at my school. Plus it's always good to have a backup.
And would it mess anything up if I just simply moved the program file folder onto my external HDD? There's a lot of stuff in there, haha I wouldn't want to manually reinstall everything.
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09-02-2008, 07:40 PM
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You just can't move program file data from one drive to another without reinstalling the program and changing the install directory. If you were to move the program file to another folder or drive and go to run the program you would get "unable to find program/file error".
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09-02-2008, 07:44 PM
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Hm, well maybe I could manually go through an uninstall all my programs that would be easy to reinstall on the external HDD. Would moving "My Documents" from my internal HDD to my external also speed up my main HDD in such that it won't have to search through so much. Either way, would it be beneficial to move some of my programs to an external hard drive improve system performance? At startup, my HDD light stays solid but my CPU stays around 60%.
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09-02-2008, 07:57 PM
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If you are using the computer that is listed in your signature then you shouldn't be having any problems with speed, UNLESS, you were infected with viruses/malware. If you say that your hard drive activity light basically stays on all the time then I would say you have an infection somewhere. Download Hijackthis and post a log file please.
http://www.trendsecure.com/portal/en...HJTInstall.exe
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09-02-2008, 08:13 PM
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Well it only stays on at startup. Once all the programs are loaded the light goes off. I will run that virus sweep though. I have Norton scan automatically twice a week but maybe it missed something.
http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/...bL._SS500_.jpg It is this case, the light is on the upper right. It shows a picture of like a cylinder or something. I'm pretty sure this indicated HDD usage.
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09-02-2008, 08:19 PM
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Sure it will speed up moving unecessary files over to your external, but stuff like program files don't move. An external hard drive is a hell of a lot slower then your internal. But stuff like music, movies and such go ahead and move to your external to free up some room.
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09-02-2008, 08:22 PM
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Logfile of Trend Micro HijackThis v2.0.2
Scan saved at 11:15:30 AM, on 9/2/2008 Platform: Windows Vista SP1 (WinNT 6.00.1905) MSIE: Internet Explorer v7.00 (7.00.6001.18000) Boot mode: Normal Running processes: C:\Windows\system32\Dwm.exe C:\Windows\Explorer.EXE C:\Windows\system32\taskeng.exe C:\PROGRA~1\FRAPS\fraps.exe C:\hp\support\hpsysdrv.exe C:\Windows\RtHDVCpl.exe C:\Program Files\HP\HP Software Update\hpwuSchd2.exe C:\Windows\System32\rundll32.exe C:\Windows\ehome\ehtray.exe C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player\wmpnscfg.exe C:\Windows\system32\schtasks.exe C:\Windows\System32\mobsync.exe C:\Program Files\Logitech\SetPoint\SetPoint.exe C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccSvcHst.exe C:\Windows\ehome\ehmsas.exe C:\Windows\system32\jusched.exe C:\Program Files\Stardock\ObjectDock\ObjectDock.exe C:\Windows\system32\wbem\unsecapp.exe C:\Program Files\Common Files\Logishrd\KHAL2\KHALMNPR.EXE C:\Program Files\Xfire\xfire.exe C:\Program Files\Steam\steam.exe C:\hp\kbd\kbd.exe C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe C:\Windows\system32\SearchFilterHost.exe C:\Program Files\Trend Micro\HijackThis\HijackThis.exe R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896 R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://ie.redirect.hp.com/svs/rdr?TY...ion&pf=desktop R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL = http://ie.redirect.hp.com/svs/rdr?TY...ion&pf=desktop R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Search_URL = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896 R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896 R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://ie.redirect.hp.com/svs/rdr?TY...ion&pf=desktop R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,SearchAssistant = R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,CustomizeSearch = R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Toolbar,LinksFolderName = O1 - Hosts: ::1 localhost O2 - BHO: (no name) - {02478D38-C3F9-4efb-9B51-7695ECA05670} - 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This might as well be German haha.
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http://java.com/en/download/index.jsp Just make sure you uninstall any and all previous versions you already have on your system as they cause issues. But getting back to your system running slow at bootup. The only thing that will speed that up is to stop any programs from running on boot up that you don't need to run. Use the "msconfig" utility to stop programs from running.
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09-02-2008, 08:24 PM
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I'm not really having problems with speed. It probably boots up in like a minute or two, shuts down in about 10 seconds. I was just wondering if adding an external hard drive and transferring my program files to my external hard drive would speed anything up. I might get an external HDD just for backup. I was wondering if it would be beneficial to anything else.
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09-02-2008, 08:52 PM
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Okay well thanks for the DL. I already tried msconfig and I disabled some of the programs that I didn't need. It ended up starting up faster but made my computer go slower after. Once I re-enabled all of them it had a marginally slower bootup but performed faster in the long run.
But surely if my HDD is my bottleneck at startup, having 2 HDD's share the load would be better wouldn't it? Eg, XFire, Fraps, Steam, Logitech Setpoint, ObjectDock . . . etc.
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