What would be a good case for this?

elmarcorulz · 05-18-2005, 02:25 AM

just because its confusing doesnt mean you should ignore it, it may completely screw up your system all together! ask us about the points you dont understand

Charlie7940 · 05-18-2005, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Praetor

The Ratings
When you look at a PSU (the physical thing), you should be able to see a big sticker somewhere that lists its specifications (usually in a table or something). Have a good look at the current/amperage rating for the 12V rail (or the sum total of the 12V rails if you have multiple ones). For the remainder of this FAQ, the following convention will be used:
+3.3@28A, +5@52A, +12@28A
Which is enough to convey the critical information

Minimums
If you're buying a PSU for any machine that isnt described as "horribly-antiquated" (i.e., Pentium4 or AthlonXP class or newer) than there are some minimum you should look for ... namely this means a minimum of 24A on the 12V rail. Power users shouldnt be considering anything short of 30A. It should be noted that 16ms is the almost-universal minimum for hold-up time. Lastly, voltage regulation should be within 3% (although the absolute bare minimum is 5%) with very few PSUs hitting 1% regulation)

Read that part over...the cases you listed had a PSU with ~18 Amps on the +12V rail. It's reccommended to get at least a +12V rail with 24A...however going with more would not be a bad idea

mrchainsaw · 05-18-2005, 02:37 AM

So it looks like I was about to be ripped off! What amps would I need on the 12V rail for a true 500W psu?

Edit: Also, I'm planning on using AMD Athlon 64 3000+ with this.

Charlie7940 · 05-18-2005, 02:44 AM

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So it looks like I was about to be ripped off!

Not really...you get what you pay for

. For your system I would get at least a +12V rail @ 24A. I couldn't really tell you exactly as I've never had a system like the one you plan on purchasing. Maybe someone else can comment

mrchainsaw · 05-18-2005, 02:54 AM

Would it be okay if I bought a psu with more amps than i need on the 12v rail? It would still run fine right?

M0ddingMan1a · 05-18-2005, 06:55 PM

yea, about that one case taht u chose. the first one, it has a openable

door. that u just open like a door.

yea, its practically a cover thats it. u got nothing to worry bout.

M0ddingMan1a · 05-18-2005, 07:04 PM

ok ok ok, now for the psu. yea, im thinking of building a system SIMILAR to urs, so yea. ill

send u a link for psu and the one im gonna get. and btw, i wouldnt recommend using the psu that the case comes with. i knoe some ppl do cuz they are on a budjet, or it psu is actually decent.

one ima get:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153008 that, or this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153012

try newegg for psu's too.

pretty good selection.

Yeti · 05-18-2005, 07:45 PM

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one ima get:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...N82E16817153008 that, or this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...N82E16817153012

Except that both of those PSUs have 18A on the 12V rail. Now IMO it isn't critical to have more than 18A, but if you're going to buy a new PSU you might as well get one with >24A.

M0ddingMan1a · 05-19-2005, 03:54 AM

sigh........... too lazy too look thats all. can u send me a link of one ur talkin bout? greatly appreciated if u can.

**Praetor** · 05-20-2005, 09:31 PM

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... 500w for just that? yea right..... for a 3000+, a 480, or even a 450w is enough. but anyways, if u want a case then:

Except wattage count means jack shit.

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Would it be okay if I bought a psu with more amps than i need on the 12v rail? It would still run fine right?

Yes you'll be fine

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one ima get:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...N82E16817153008 <http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817153008> that, or this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...N82E16817153012 <http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817153012>

Well the first one blows. and so does the second one. Hehe very few Tt PSUs worth buying

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sigh........... too lazy too look thats all. can u send me a link of one ur talkin bout? greatly appreciated if u can.

Why send a link to someone too lazy to read it? Especially if links have been posted listing all sorts of stuff (with links from there too)?

05-18-2005, 02:25 AM	#11 (permalink)
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05-18-2005, 02:37 AM	#13 (permalink)
mrchainsaw Bronze Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: IL Posts: 25	So it looks like I was about to be ripped off! What amps would I need on the 12V rail for a true 500W psu? Edit: Also, I'm planning on using AMD Athlon 64 3000+ with this. Last edited by mrchainsaw; 05-18-2005 at 02:39 AM. Reason: Forgot information.

05-18-2005, 06:55 PM	#16 (permalink)
M0ddingMan1a Diamond Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: CA Age: 19 Posts: 1,614	yea, about that one case taht u chose. the first one, it has a openable door. that u just open like a door. yea, its practically a cover thats it. u got nothing to worry bout. __________________ Entertainment Rig// My FUll BLUE Rig: CPU: AMD 64 Clawhammer 3400+//CPU: AMD Sempron 2600+ Mobo: DFI Lanparty UT 250gb//Mobo: Gigabyte GA-K8NS RAM: 1 gig pc3200 Corsair XMS//RAM: 1 gig PC3200 PQi Video Card: Ati AIW 9800pro 128mb//Video Card: Sapphire Ati 9600pro 128mb HDs: 80gig Sata, 200gig ATA//HDs: 250gig WD, 80gig WD, 30gig WD, 13.5gig IBM PSU: 500w X-Infinity//PSU: 500W Ultra-X Titanium Blue

05-18-2005, 07:04 PM	#17 (permalink)
M0ddingMan1a Diamond Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: CA Age: 19 Posts: 1,614	ok ok ok, now for the psu. yea, im thinking of building a system SIMILAR to urs, so yea. ill send u a link for psu and the one im gonna get. and btw, i wouldnt recommend using the psu that the case comes with. i knoe some ppl do cuz they are on a budjet, or it psu is actually decent. one ima get:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153008 that, or this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153012 try newegg for psu's too. pretty good selection. __________________ Entertainment Rig// My FUll BLUE Rig: CPU: AMD 64 Clawhammer 3400+//CPU: AMD Sempron 2600+ Mobo: DFI Lanparty UT 250gb//Mobo: Gigabyte GA-K8NS RAM: 1 gig pc3200 Corsair XMS//RAM: 1 gig PC3200 PQi Video Card: Ati AIW 9800pro 128mb//Video Card: Sapphire Ati 9600pro 128mb HDs: 80gig Sata, 200gig ATA//HDs: 250gig WD, 80gig WD, 30gig WD, 13.5gig IBM PSU: 500w X-Infinity//PSU: 500W Ultra-X Titanium Blue

05-19-2005, 03:54 AM	#19 (permalink)
M0ddingMan1a Diamond Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: CA Age: 19 Posts: 1,614	sigh........... too lazy too look thats all. can u send me a link of one ur talkin bout? greatly appreciated if u can. __________________ Entertainment Rig// My FUll BLUE Rig: CPU: AMD 64 Clawhammer 3400+//CPU: AMD Sempron 2600+ Mobo: DFI Lanparty UT 250gb//Mobo: Gigabyte GA-K8NS RAM: 1 gig pc3200 Corsair XMS//RAM: 1 gig PC3200 PQi Video Card: Ati AIW 9800pro 128mb//Video Card: Sapphire Ati 9600pro 128mb HDs: 80gig Sata, 200gig ATA//HDs: 250gig WD, 80gig WD, 30gig WD, 13.5gig IBM PSU: 500w X-Infinity//PSU: 500W Ultra-X Titanium Blue

05-18-2005, 02:54 AM	#15 (permalink)
mrchainsaw Bronze Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: IL Posts: 25	Would it be okay if I bought a psu with more amps than i need on the 12v rail? It would still run fine right?

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