So, is it illegal to torrent a copy of windows if you already own the OS?

GSAV55 · 12-16-2008, 10:30 PM

Really, really briefly, what is DMCA? Like just give me a synopsis of the summary of what it is, haha, thanks.

tlarkin · 12-16-2008, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by speedyink

This is just a case of it technically being illegal because of some bullshit rule that some executive thought of so be smarmy and clear all the loopholes. The reality? It causes many angry people, more money for microsoft, as it makes them have to reship the product to the customer, creates more waste, energy and materials for the packaging is needed.

To answer your question, yes, going by the set rule by microsoft, it is illegal. However, in a logical view standpoint, it saves time, money and energy to do it anyway.

By they you mean the government and supreme court right? Sure the MPAA, RIAA, and big computer companies lobbied for things like the DMCA, but it was the government that made it official, not the CEOs.

Microsoft now wants to go to a yearly subscription fee, where the customer pays a set amount of money each year (to be determined) and it allows them to download whatever versions they want and are available. Of course it is only in the works nothing official about it yet.

Remember you don't own windows, you lease it for $150 to $300 per a license.

tlarkin · 12-16-2008, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GSAV55

Really, really briefly, what is DMCA? Like just give me a synopsis of the summary of what it is, haha, thanks.

come man, use your internet skills

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmca

ukulele_ninja · 12-16-2008, 10:34 PM

A rule is a rule I suppose. I had always been under the impression that when you purchase anything with a serial code, its the code your paying for and not so much the media its connected to. Just like purchasing games online, you can purchase and download the software for free, but its useless till you buy a product key.

I also thought that installing windows without a key would only work for a certain number of days like a trial period till you buy a key, I could be wrong about that though.

speedyink · 12-16-2008, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ukulele_ninja

A rule is a rule I suppose. I had always been under the impression that when you purchase anything with a serial code, its the code your paying for and not so much the media its connected to. Just like purchasing games online, you can purchase and download the software for free, but its useless till you buy a product key.

I also thought that installing windows without a key would only work for a certain number of days like a trial period till you buy a key, I could be wrong about that though.

Exactly how I thought of it.

TFT · 12-16-2008, 10:43 PM

Exactly Ninja
I purchased AVG paid for suite, downloaded it and they sent the key by Email. Months later my computer messed up so I downloaded it again and used my key. I thought that's how it worked

tlarkin · 12-16-2008, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TFT

Exactly Ninja
I purchased AVG paid for suite, downloaded it and they sent the key by Email. Months later my computer messed up so I downloaded it again and used my key. I thought that's how it worked

That is a subscription based license, and you will have to pay again when your subscription expires.

ukulele_ninja · 12-16-2008, 10:50 PM

Well hopefully my back and forth with the customer support team at MSoft will clear up some confusion that anyone may have had about the rules and how their EULA works, each company dictates how their software can and cannot be used regardless of how dumb we feel their decision is.

I will say that im liking Ubuntu Linux more and more each day so as not to worry about these goofy qualms with Msoft.

**mep916** · 12-16-2008, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ukulele_ninja

So in the end, I was wrong Mep was right.

Good times.

BTW, you received a Warning, not an infraction. There is a difference.

**mep916** · 12-16-2008, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by tlarkin

come man, use your internet skills

http://www.letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=dmca

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