6800GT or X800PRO??

[-0MEGA-] · 06-03-2005, 03:02 PM

I am debating between 2 video cards, the nVidia 6800GT or the ATI X800PRO.

The 6800GT has a core speed of 350Mhz, while the ati has 475Mhz.

The 6800GT has a memory speed of 1000Mhz, while the ati has 900Mhz.

Both are 256 Bit, GDDR3 memory, AGP 8x

6800GT has 16 pixel pipelines, it doesnt say what the ati has.

the ati has OpenGL 2.0, while the 6800gt has 1.5

The 6800GT is $294, and the X800PRO is $289

So what would you think woudl be better? I cant do SLI because i dont have PCIE, i will be using this mainly for gaming, but also for doing the basics, and a little photo/video editing. Any comments would be apprediated.

Kingcrims0n · 06-03-2005, 03:11 PM

I'm not sure if this will help at all, but I have a Radeon X800 Pro. I have the sapphire brand of the card but I have not noticed anything bad about it. I play games like WoW and all Half Life 2 games(Cs:S, HL2-DM) with full settings and I receive 60-85 most of the time in WoW and 30-50 in ironforge by auction house

. In Half life 2 games, depending on the map and the number of people playing I get anywhere from 80-200. Anyways, I never got a try at the 6800 GT, but I really like my X800 Pro. I have not had one problem with it whatsoever. If I were you I would google both cards and see if their a comparison of them. Hope I helped and good luck with your purchase.

**Cromewell** · 06-03-2005, 03:42 PM

Here's what you should look at before picking one http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=2044 there is probably a review on Toms Hardware as well.

LittleHoov · 06-03-2005, 03:54 PM

the x800 and x800 pro both have 12 pixel pipelines, the x800 xl and xt have 16, they are the same chipset so in theory the extra 4 pipelines could be unlocked, but ive yet to hear of it being done.

you should google for comparisions between the 6800gt and x800pro or x800 xl or something like that, i read several comparisions between those cards, some things one does better, some things the other, i do remember that the 6800 gt has version 3.0 of some fancy video thing(like my terminology?) and the ati has version 2.0 which supposedly can do all the things that 3.0 can only slower...but i cant for the life of me remember what it was called, i remembered them saying that you could definetely tell a difference in the new splinter cell game though, i think it was some sort of lighting thing maybe?

**Cromewell** · 06-03-2005, 04:07 PM

The x800 pro -> x800 xt mod is done by nearly everyone, it happened with the 9800pro -> xt as well. The 6800 has pixel shader 3.0, while ATi's cards have PS2.0

**apj101** · 06-03-2005, 04:59 PM

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I cant do SLI because i dont have PCIE

you'd need more than just PCI-E, you'd need a board that offers PCI-E

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The 6800 has pixel shader 3.0, while ATi's cards have PS2.0

How much of an imporvement is there in PS3, and will any games even be made for PS3 any time soon. I was under the impression that most games are still PS1.X.

But hey what do i know about graphics (look at my sig)

**Cromewell** · 06-03-2005, 05:44 PM

IIRC PS1.1 is the most common right now, a some games can use 2.0(b) and very few can fully use 3.0.

LittleHoov · 06-03-2005, 05:49 PM

apparently you can only mod certain x800 pro cards to xt-pe speeds, and you may or may not be able to get all 16 pipes...i found an article herehttp://www.techpowerup.com/articles/...ng/vidcard/100

so the x800 pro can possibly be modded to an x800 xt-pe, which i believe would beat out a 6800gt in most cases, but then the 6800gt can also be oced to 6800ultra speeds, and then i think it would be another ballgame.

usually what it boils down to for most people is budget, in which case the x800 pro would be your best bet.

and after further research, i believe it is quite likely that you can mod a regular x800 up to an x800 xl, but dont quote me on that, so there is yet another option.

**Praetor** · 06-03-2005, 09:02 PM

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The 6800GT has a core speed of 350Mhz, while the ati has 475Mhz.

Yes but just like processors, nvidia gpus are more clock-efficient

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6800GT has 16 pixel pipelines, it doesnt say what the ati has.

ATi has 12

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the ati has OpenGL 2.0, while the 6800gt has 1.5

The Ati is DX9.0b and the nVidia is DX9.0c

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So what would you think woudl be better? I cant do SLI because I dont have PCIE, I will be using this mainly for gaming, but also for doing the basics, and a little photo/video editing. Any comments would be apprediated.

The 6800GT

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The x800 pro -> x800 xt mod is done by nearly everyone

Hehe yep

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How much of an imporvement is there in PS3, and will any games even be made for PS3 any time soon.

Games are already here with PS3 but not as a mainstream

[-0MEGA-] · 06-04-2005, 04:40 AM

I just upgrade to directx 9.0c anyway, but thanks for all your feedback. and back to the comment about PCIE, i know that i need a PCIE board, but i have a socket 478 and i have only found 1 board that has pcie, and theres only 1 PCIE x 16.

06-03-2005, 03:02 PM	#1 (permalink)
[-0MEGA-] VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Concord, NH Age: 20 Posts: 27,463	6800GT or X800PRO?? I am debating between 2 video cards, the nVidia 6800GT or the ATI X800PRO. The 6800GT has a core speed of 350Mhz, while the ati has 475Mhz. The 6800GT has a memory speed of 1000Mhz, while the ati has 900Mhz. Both are 256 Bit, GDDR3 memory, AGP 8x 6800GT has 16 pixel pipelines, it doesnt say what the ati has. the ati has OpenGL 2.0, while the 6800gt has 1.5 The 6800GT is $294, and the X800PRO is $289 So what would you think woudl be better? I cant do SLI because i dont have PCIE, i will be using this mainly for gaming, but also for doing the basics, and a little photo/video editing. Any comments would be apprediated. __________________ Core 2 Quad Q9550 @ 4.1GHz Asus Rampage Formula X48 ATI 4870X2 2GB GDDR5 (800/1900) 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 960 750GB SATAII w/32MB Creative SB X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty SilverStone 750W +12V@60A 3DMark06: 22605

06-03-2005, 03:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
Kingcrims0n New Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Nowhere Land Posts: 17	I'm not sure if this will help at all, but I have a Radeon X800 Pro. I have the sapphire brand of the card but I have not noticed anything bad about it. I play games like WoW and all Half Life 2 games(Cs:S, HL2-DM) with full settings and I receive 60-85 most of the time in WoW and 30-50 in ironforge by auction house . In Half life 2 games, depending on the map and the number of people playing I get anywhere from 80-200. Anyways, I never got a try at the 6800 GT, but I really like my X800 Pro. I have not had one problem with it whatsoever. If I were you I would google both cards and see if their a comparison of them. Hope I helped and good luck with your purchase. __________________ AMD Athlon 3500+ Winchester Core_ATI Radeon X800 Pro_2 GB Crucial Ram, 80 GB HD Currently Playing : Counter-strike 1.6, Counter-Strike Source, Half-Life 2 : Deathmatch, Guild Wars, Gunbound, World of Warcraft

06-03-2005, 03:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
Cromewell Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canada Age: 25 Posts: 10,425	Here's what you should look at before picking one http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=2044 there is probably a review on Toms Hardware as well. __________________ You know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I go get and beat you with 'til ya understand who's in command here. www.userfriendly.org

06-03-2005, 04:07 PM	#5 (permalink)
Cromewell Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canada Age: 25 Posts: 10,425	The x800 pro -> x800 xt mod is done by nearly everyone, it happened with the 9800pro -> xt as well. The 6800 has pixel shader 3.0, while ATi's cards have PS2.0 __________________ You know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I go get and beat you with 'til ya understand who's in command here. www.userfriendly.org

06-03-2005, 05:44 PM	#7 (permalink)
Cromewell Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canada Age: 25 Posts: 10,425	IIRC PS1.1 is the most common right now, a some games can use 2.0(b) and very few can fully use 3.0. __________________ You know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I go get and beat you with 'til ya understand who's in command here. www.userfriendly.org

06-03-2005, 03:54 PM	#4 (permalink)
LittleHoov Gold Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Climax Springs, Missouri Age: 21 Posts: 311	the x800 and x800 pro both have 12 pixel pipelines, the x800 xl and xt have 16, they are the same chipset so in theory the extra 4 pipelines could be unlocked, but ive yet to hear of it being done. you should google for comparisions between the 6800gt and x800pro or x800 xl or something like that, i read several comparisions between those cards, some things one does better, some things the other, i do remember that the 6800 gt has version 3.0 of some fancy video thing(like my terminology?) and the ati has version 2.0 which supposedly can do all the things that 3.0 can only slower...but i cant for the life of me remember what it was called, i remembered them saying that you could definetely tell a difference in the new splinter cell game though, i think it was some sort of lighting thing maybe?

06-03-2005, 05:49 PM	#8 (permalink)
LittleHoov Gold Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Climax Springs, Missouri Age: 21 Posts: 311	apparently you can only mod certain x800 pro cards to xt-pe speeds, and you may or may not be able to get all 16 pipes...i found an article herehttp://www.techpowerup.com/articles/...ng/vidcard/100 so the x800 pro can possibly be modded to an x800 xt-pe, which i believe would beat out a 6800gt in most cases, but then the 6800gt can also be oced to 6800ultra speeds, and then i think it would be another ballgame. usually what it boils down to for most people is budget, in which case the x800 pro would be your best bet. and after further research, i believe it is quite likely that you can mod a regular x800 up to an x800 xl, but dont quote me on that, so there is yet another option. Last edited by LittleHoov; 06-03-2005 at 05:55 PM.

06-04-2005, 04:40 AM	#10 (permalink)
[-0MEGA-] VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Concord, NH Age: 20 Posts: 27,463	I just upgrade to directx 9.0c anyway, but thanks for all your feedback. and back to the comment about PCIE, i know that i need a PCIE board, but i have a socket 478 and i have only found 1 board that has pcie, and theres only 1 PCIE x 16. __________________ Core 2 Quad Q9550 @ 4.1GHz Asus Rampage Formula X48 ATI 4870X2 2GB GDDR5 (800/1900) 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 960 750GB SATAII w/32MB Creative SB X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty SilverStone 750W +12V@60A 3DMark06: 22605

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