my RAM is not on the compatability list for the EP35-DS3L

Moocher · 01-26-2009, 04:40 PM

I bought the Patriot extreme RAM (DIMM-PDC24G6400LLK) for my GA-EP35-DS3L motherboard. I have had some problems with Dual channel memory and I think I just might have found my problem...

What happened is that whenever I tested my memory in dual channel it would always fail, but the RAM sticks would pass if I tested alone. I thought I might have a bad board but it turns out that my mobo does not support this particular RAM stick in 2gig dual-channel kit O_O ... I tried to look for any other RAM companies it supported in 2gig sticks (for Dual channel) but apart from geil and MICRON it either supports 1gig or 512 sticks.

My question is if there is any way that I can still run my 2gig sticks in Dual channel (maybe change something in the BIOS)? bc I would otherwise have to live with only 4gigs of RAM and those would occupy all my slots (instead of having 2 free for expansion)

**Cromewell** · 01-26-2009, 04:55 PM

Just because RAM is not on the compatability list doesn't mean it wont work it just means it wasn't tested by Gigabyte. That RAM should work fine, try increasing the vdimm by 0.1v.

Moocher · 01-26-2009, 06:00 PM

I don't want to sound stupid...but what exactly is that? and where can I find that in the BIOS...I tried increasing the voltage to the .1 to the NB, and increasing the RAM voltage by .3 then I ram memtest. It passed the first 3 tests, but found 2 errors once it got to the 4 test. I know the RAM is good, bc I have tested it independently of my board.

Aastii · 01-26-2009, 09:45 PM

when your system boots go into the bios. look for power settings (if your bios has either "advanced" or "power" areas on it, it is usually in there). What you are looking for is memory voltage and NB core voltage.

Memory voltage is always at 1.8V at default, put it to 1.9-2.0V . If your bios only allows say 1.89 and then the next one up 2.13, use 2.13V.

For NB core voltage, because you are going to have all 4 four slots filled it is best to put this up a little. NB (north bridge) core volatge increases the power going accross the northbridge. Put that to 1.4-1.5V.

If that still doesn't work, at boot up look at the top of the bios screen (don't go into bios, when the bios loads it gives information about RAM, CPU, drives etc that have been detected, that bit), it will say what bios version you are on and the revision. Make a note of this. Go to your mobo manufacturer website and check for bios updates. If you are way out of date chances are that the bios you have won't support the modern 4slot RAM configuration, so an update will be in order. If that is the case, post back for more info and i will help you out

Moocher · 01-26-2009, 10:21 PM

ok let me try that

**Cromewell** · 01-26-2009, 10:26 PM

With a gigabyte board you mean need to press Ctrl-F1 at the main menu to unlock the 'advanced' mode.

Moocher · 01-27-2009, 12:10 AM

OK I still cant find where the NB voltage control is... or how to make the screen stay longer so I can write down the BIOS version of my board. As I speak I am running memtest...hopefully increasing my RAM voltage by .2 and my7 FSB voltage by .1 will fix my problem

Moocher · 01-27-2009, 12:21 AM

Memtest is currently at 8% and no errors, thats better past the point where I saw errors last time... So far so good

I'll update again soon

Moocher · 01-27-2009, 12:48 AM

Sadly at this point It has failed three times in test 7... not sure if you are "allowed" to fail a few and still be stable... but I will continue to watch it. please feel free to post at anytime.

2048Megabytes · 01-27-2009, 12:55 AM

If you are still encountering more errors you may want to raise the voltage even more or switch the memory in another motherboard and let Memtest run for several hours. The random access memory might be bad. No errors should occur when you run Memtest.

01-26-2009, 04:40 PM	#1 (permalink)
Moocher Silver Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Tx Posts: 186	my RAM is not on the compatability list for the EP35-DS3L I bought the Patriot extreme RAM (DIMM-PDC24G6400LLK) for my GA-EP35-DS3L motherboard. I have had some problems with Dual channel memory and I think I just might have found my problem... What happened is that whenever I tested my memory in dual channel it would always fail, but the RAM sticks would pass if I tested alone. I thought I might have a bad board but it turns out that my mobo does not support this particular RAM stick in 2gig dual-channel kit O_O ... I tried to look for any other RAM companies it supported in 2gig sticks (for Dual channel) but apart from geil and MICRON it either supports 1gig or 512 sticks. My question is if there is any way that I can still run my 2gig sticks in Dual channel (maybe change something in the BIOS)? bc I would otherwise have to live with only 4gigs of RAM and those would occupy all my slots (instead of having 2 free for expansion) __________________ Motherboard: Gigabyte Ep35 DS3L Video card: Asus 4850 512mb Case: Tricod 9003 HD: Western Digital caviar 3.0GB/s 320GB 7200RPM RAM: Patriot Extreme 2x2gigs 800 mhz, pc6400, 4-4-4-12 timings CPU: Intel Pentium E5200 running at 3.0 ghz PSU: King win 610 watts Headphones: Plantronics gamecom1 Keyboard/ Mouse: Microsoft Comfort curve and Intellimouse Monitor: KDS 22'' wide-screen

01-26-2009, 04:55 PM	#2 (permalink)
Cromewell Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canada Age: 26 Posts: 11,804	Just because RAM is not on the compatability list doesn't mean it wont work it just means it wasn't tested by Gigabyte. That RAM should work fine, try increasing the vdimm by 0.1v. __________________ You know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I go get and beat you with 'til ya understand who's in command here. www.userfriendly.org

01-26-2009, 06:00 PM	#3 (permalink)
Moocher Silver Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Tx Posts: 186	I don't want to sound stupid...but what exactly is that? and where can I find that in the BIOS...I tried increasing the voltage to the .1 to the NB, and increasing the RAM voltage by .3 then I ram memtest. It passed the first 3 tests, but found 2 errors once it got to the 4 test. I know the RAM is good, bc I have tested it independently of my board. __________________ Motherboard: Gigabyte Ep35 DS3L Video card: Asus 4850 512mb Case: Tricod 9003 HD: Western Digital caviar 3.0GB/s 320GB 7200RPM RAM: Patriot Extreme 2x2gigs 800 mhz, pc6400, 4-4-4-12 timings CPU: Intel Pentium E5200 running at 3.0 ghz PSU: King win 610 watts Headphones: Plantronics gamecom1 Keyboard/ Mouse: Microsoft Comfort curve and Intellimouse Monitor: KDS 22'' wide-screen

01-26-2009, 09:45 PM	#4 (permalink)
Aastii Diamond Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: St Helens, UK Age: 16 Posts: 3,510	when your system boots go into the bios. look for power settings (if your bios has either "advanced" or "power" areas on it, it is usually in there). What you are looking for is memory voltage and NB core voltage. Memory voltage is always at 1.8V at default, put it to 1.9-2.0V . If your bios only allows say 1.89 and then the next one up 2.13, use 2.13V. For NB core voltage, because you are going to have all 4 four slots filled it is best to put this up a little. NB (north bridge) core volatge increases the power going accross the northbridge. Put that to 1.4-1.5V. If that still doesn't work, at boot up look at the top of the bios screen (don't go into bios, when the bios loads it gives information about RAM, CPU, drives etc that have been detected, that bit), it will say what bios version you are on and the revision. Make a note of this. Go to your mobo manufacturer website and check for bios updates. If you are way out of date chances are that the bios you have won't support the modern 4slot RAM configuration, so an update will be in order. If that is the case, post back for more info and i will help you out __________________ Intel E6750 @ 3.2GHz P5N-E SLI 8GB PC6400 OCZ Gold Asus 8600gt silent cooling SLI 180gb Samsung Main drive, 200GB Maxtor Backup Corsair TX850W

01-26-2009, 10:21 PM	#5 (permalink)
Moocher Silver Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Tx Posts: 186	ok let me try that __________________ Motherboard: Gigabyte Ep35 DS3L Video card: Asus 4850 512mb Case: Tricod 9003 HD: Western Digital caviar 3.0GB/s 320GB 7200RPM RAM: Patriot Extreme 2x2gigs 800 mhz, pc6400, 4-4-4-12 timings CPU: Intel Pentium E5200 running at 3.0 ghz PSU: King win 610 watts Headphones: Plantronics gamecom1 Keyboard/ Mouse: Microsoft Comfort curve and Intellimouse Monitor: KDS 22'' wide-screen

01-26-2009, 10:26 PM	#6 (permalink)
Cromewell Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canada Age: 26 Posts: 11,804	With a gigabyte board you mean need to press Ctrl-F1 at the main menu to unlock the 'advanced' mode. __________________ You know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I go get and beat you with 'til ya understand who's in command here. www.userfriendly.org

01-27-2009, 12:10 AM	#7 (permalink)
Moocher Silver Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Tx Posts: 186	OK I still cant find where the NB voltage control is... or how to make the screen stay longer so I can write down the BIOS version of my board. As I speak I am running memtest...hopefully increasing my RAM voltage by .2 and my7 FSB voltage by .1 will fix my problem __________________ Motherboard: Gigabyte Ep35 DS3L Video card: Asus 4850 512mb Case: Tricod 9003 HD: Western Digital caviar 3.0GB/s 320GB 7200RPM RAM: Patriot Extreme 2x2gigs 800 mhz, pc6400, 4-4-4-12 timings CPU: Intel Pentium E5200 running at 3.0 ghz PSU: King win 610 watts Headphones: Plantronics gamecom1 Keyboard/ Mouse: Microsoft Comfort curve and Intellimouse Monitor: KDS 22'' wide-screen

01-27-2009, 12:21 AM	#8 (permalink)
Moocher Silver Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Tx Posts: 186	Memtest is currently at 8% and no errors, thats better past the point where I saw errors last time... So far so good I'll update again soon __________________ Motherboard: Gigabyte Ep35 DS3L Video card: Asus 4850 512mb Case: Tricod 9003 HD: Western Digital caviar 3.0GB/s 320GB 7200RPM RAM: Patriot Extreme 2x2gigs 800 mhz, pc6400, 4-4-4-12 timings CPU: Intel Pentium E5200 running at 3.0 ghz PSU: King win 610 watts Headphones: Plantronics gamecom1 Keyboard/ Mouse: Microsoft Comfort curve and Intellimouse Monitor: KDS 22'' wide-screen

01-27-2009, 12:48 AM	#9 (permalink)
Moocher Silver Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Tx Posts: 186	Sadly at this point It has failed three times in test 7... not sure if you are "allowed" to fail a few and still be stable... but I will continue to watch it. please feel free to post at anytime. __________________ Motherboard: Gigabyte Ep35 DS3L Video card: Asus 4850 512mb Case: Tricod 9003 HD: Western Digital caviar 3.0GB/s 320GB 7200RPM RAM: Patriot Extreme 2x2gigs 800 mhz, pc6400, 4-4-4-12 timings CPU: Intel Pentium E5200 running at 3.0 ghz PSU: King win 610 watts Headphones: Plantronics gamecom1 Keyboard/ Mouse: Microsoft Comfort curve and Intellimouse Monitor: KDS 22'' wide-screen

01-27-2009, 12:55 AM	#10 (permalink)
2048Megabytes Diamond Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Mainland United States Posts: 2,297	If you are still encountering more errors you may want to raise the voltage even more or switch the memory in another motherboard and let Memtest run for several hours. The random access memory might be bad. No errors should occur when you run Memtest. __________________ "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." -- Benjamin Franklin Operating Systems: Linux Ubuntu 9.04 and Windows Vista Power Supply: OCZ StealthXStream OCZ600SXS Video Card: MSI R3650-T2D512 OC Radeon HD 3650 Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-M78SM-S2H Memory: Super Talent PC2-6400 2 gigabytes Processor: Phenom 9550 Quad-Core (2.2 gigahertz)

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