AMD slower ghz?

Zabarl · 06-15-2005, 03:29 AM

How come the AMD 64 GHZ speed is slower than an Intel? Like my 3700+ san diego is 2.2ghz and isaround 330 bux while a intel 3.4 prescott is around 310 bux. Does that mean the 64 is slower?

MasterGooby · 06-15-2005, 03:34 AM

In my opinion the AMDs are faster than the Intels. The 3700 means it's equal to a P4 3.7 for example. I have a P4 630 and it's not as fast as my Athlon64 3000+ (939 socket)

LittleHoov · 06-15-2005, 03:35 AM

no it doesnt mean the AMD is slower, yes AMD does have a slower operating frquency, but that is because AMD handles processes differently than Intel, both get the job done with the same result, but AMD actually does it quicker, requiring less clock cycles, hence the lower frequency, whereas Intel needs the higher frequency to keep pace

NeuromancerWGDD'U · 06-15-2005, 04:00 AM

The frequency is only part of the equation of performance. Keep in mind, that while a 2.2 GHz AMD doesn't sound that fast compared to a 3.4 GHz Intel chip, AMD chips perform 9 operations per clock cycle, whereas Intel chips can only do 6 operation per clock cycle. That, and the AMD 64's are 64-bit, and Intel chips (from what I understand) are still exclusively 32-bit.

(Master Gooby, your avatar frightens me, he looks like he's about to consume the contents of an orphanage)

MasterGooby · 06-15-2005, 04:03 AM

I have one of the new Intel 64-bits "630" and it better be 64-BIT! It's still no where near the performance of an AMD anything bit!

LittleHoov · 06-15-2005, 04:03 AM

I believe Intel has 64-bit processors as well, and now that there are applications which actually take advantage of that, such as Windows 64-bit edition...its starting to be worth it.

MasterGooby · 06-15-2005, 04:04 AM

My avatar shall rule the world!!! Actually I got the pic off some news site. I think he's a congressman or something. It still looked funny!

NeuromancerWGDD'U · 06-15-2005, 04:06 AM

Ah, I had read occasional spatterings of internet reviews and the sort, and kept hearing about how Intel had yet to go to 64-bit. I suppose then, that those were outdated writings. Ah well, I don't pay too much attention to what Intel does, after all, it's been a long time since they've done anything innovative or earth-shattering.

NeuromancerWGDD'U · 06-15-2005, 04:07 AM

Anyway, my point in the whole "Intel not being 64-bit" bit is that Zabarl is comparing the operating frequency of a 64-bit AMD chip, to the operating frequency of an Intel 32-bit chip.

MasterGooby · 06-15-2005, 04:08 AM

Yeah, well, i'm not paying anymore attention to Intel anymore. They promised me speed, and they gave me nothing but a bigger price tag... If I didn't spend 230!!! freaking dollars on the CPU alone I would definately go back to AMD.

06-15-2005, 03:29 AM	#1 (permalink)
Zabarl Bronze Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 31	AMD slower ghz? How come the AMD 64 GHZ speed is slower than an Intel? Like my 3700+ san diego is 2.2ghz and isaround 330 bux while a intel 3.4 prescott is around 310 bux. Does that mean the 64 is slower?

06-15-2005, 03:34 AM	#2 (permalink)
MasterGooby Bronze Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: College Station, TX Age: 26 Posts: 77	In my opinion the AMDs are faster than the Intels. The 3700 means it's equal to a P4 3.7 for example. I have a P4 630 and it's not as fast as my Athlon64 3000+ (939 socket) __________________ Intel Pentium 4 630 3.0Ghz Intel D915PCY Mobo Corsair DDR2 Value Select 1GB ATI Radeon X300SE GPU :mad: What will they think of next? http://www.sugarbushsquirrel.com/

06-15-2005, 03:35 AM	#3 (permalink)
LittleHoov Gold Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Climax Springs, Missouri Age: 20 Posts: 290	no it doesnt mean the AMD is slower, yes AMD does have a slower operating frquency, but that is because AMD handles processes differently than Intel, both get the job done with the same result, but AMD actually does it quicker, requiring less clock cycles, hence the lower frequency, whereas Intel needs the higher frequency to keep pace __________________ ZTSystems Notebook Intel Core Duo 2 TS5450 1.66ghz 3GB DDR2 RAM 250GB Hard Drive Nvidia 8600M GT OCed at 600/430 plus a host of other goodies.

06-15-2005, 04:00 AM	#4 (permalink)
NeuromancerWGDD'U Gold Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: I miss Oregon... Age: 18 Posts: 477	The frequency is only part of the equation of performance. Keep in mind, that while a 2.2 GHz AMD doesn't sound that fast compared to a 3.4 GHz Intel chip, AMD chips perform 9 operations per clock cycle, whereas Intel chips can only do 6 operation per clock cycle. That, and the AMD 64's are 64-bit, and Intel chips (from what I understand) are still exclusively 32-bit. (Master Gooby, your avatar frightens me, he looks like he's about to consume the contents of an orphanage) __________________ My little machine: S423 Pentium 4 1.3Ghz, 4x256 16-bit RIMM RAM, 32MB TNT2 video card. I think it may be time to upgrade... The upgrade! My machine will soon be a 939 X2 4000+, 4x512 DDR400, and an 8600GTS. Last edited by NeuromancerWGDD'U; 06-15-2005 at 04:03 AM.

06-15-2005, 04:03 AM	#5 (permalink)
MasterGooby Bronze Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: College Station, TX Age: 26 Posts: 77	I have one of the new Intel 64-bits "630" and it better be 64-BIT! It's still no where near the performance of an AMD anything bit! __________________ Intel Pentium 4 630 3.0Ghz Intel D915PCY Mobo Corsair DDR2 Value Select 1GB ATI Radeon X300SE GPU :mad: What will they think of next? http://www.sugarbushsquirrel.com/

06-15-2005, 04:03 AM	#6 (permalink)
LittleHoov Gold Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Climax Springs, Missouri Age: 20 Posts: 290	I believe Intel has 64-bit processors as well, and now that there are applications which actually take advantage of that, such as Windows 64-bit edition...its starting to be worth it. __________________ ZTSystems Notebook Intel Core Duo 2 TS5450 1.66ghz 3GB DDR2 RAM 250GB Hard Drive Nvidia 8600M GT OCed at 600/430 plus a host of other goodies.

06-15-2005, 04:04 AM	#7 (permalink)
MasterGooby Bronze Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: College Station, TX Age: 26 Posts: 77	My avatar shall rule the world!!! Actually I got the pic off some news site. I think he's a congressman or something. It still looked funny! __________________ Intel Pentium 4 630 3.0Ghz Intel D915PCY Mobo Corsair DDR2 Value Select 1GB ATI Radeon X300SE GPU :mad: What will they think of next? http://www.sugarbushsquirrel.com/

06-15-2005, 04:06 AM	#8 (permalink)
NeuromancerWGDD'U Gold Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: I miss Oregon... Age: 18 Posts: 477	Ah, I had read occasional spatterings of internet reviews and the sort, and kept hearing about how Intel had yet to go to 64-bit. I suppose then, that those were outdated writings. Ah well, I don't pay too much attention to what Intel does, after all, it's been a long time since they've done anything innovative or earth-shattering. __________________ My little machine: S423 Pentium 4 1.3Ghz, 4x256 16-bit RIMM RAM, 32MB TNT2 video card. I think it may be time to upgrade... The upgrade! My machine will soon be a 939 X2 4000+, 4x512 DDR400, and an 8600GTS.

06-15-2005, 04:07 AM	#9 (permalink)
NeuromancerWGDD'U Gold Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: I miss Oregon... Age: 18 Posts: 477	Anyway, my point in the whole "Intel not being 64-bit" bit is that Zabarl is comparing the operating frequency of a 64-bit AMD chip, to the operating frequency of an Intel 32-bit chip. __________________ My little machine: S423 Pentium 4 1.3Ghz, 4x256 16-bit RIMM RAM, 32MB TNT2 video card. I think it may be time to upgrade... The upgrade! My machine will soon be a 939 X2 4000+, 4x512 DDR400, and an 8600GTS.

06-15-2005, 04:08 AM	#10 (permalink)
MasterGooby Bronze Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: College Station, TX Age: 26 Posts: 77	Yeah, well, i'm not paying anymore attention to Intel anymore. They promised me speed, and they gave me nothing but a bigger price tag... If I didn't spend 230!!! freaking dollars on the CPU alone I would definately go back to AMD. __________________ Intel Pentium 4 630 3.0Ghz Intel D915PCY Mobo Corsair DDR2 Value Select 1GB ATI Radeon X300SE GPU :mad: What will they think of next? http://www.sugarbushsquirrel.com/

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