i need help with building my next computer

G_me · 06-16-2005, 03:57 PM

hi i want to buy a new computer and i dont know what to buy

i saw this nice graphics card : HIS X800XL IceQ II Turbo 256MB PCIe
i would like to know what u think about it ?
it costs $403

i want a good AMD 64 but i dont know which ?
i am thinking about the :AMD ATHLON 64BIT 3200+ 512K 939PIN BOX
it costs $234

and some good 512mb of ram will i need more for gaming ?
i want : DDR II 512MB 533 MAJOR
it costs $51

and i need a good Pci Express motherboard to run it all and i have no idea which to choose ?

my budget is about $700-800 but i know a store that sells me parts for a cheap price

thanks so much to whoever will help me

**The_Other_One** · 06-16-2005, 04:29 PM

OK, first off I have no clue how Isrealian(?) dollars compare to USD unless you mean those are converted from whatever to USD. I'm going to assume that...

The video card is a rip. Newegg has that one for $300. Probably a pretty good choice, but more people seem to be going with nvidia's cards. If you wait a bit, I beleive their next series is comming out shortly, and you could probably get a 6800 series for pretty cheap. ATI will probably be follwoing soon if you really want ATI.

RAM looks to be a good deal. You might want more, but 512M should do alright, at least to get started. Now, that's DDR2... You're asking if a mobo and have an AMD processor. AMD's can't use DDR2. Well, they might be able to, but no faster than PC3200(I've heard slower with DDR2 RAM) So I'd reccodmend you looking for some plain PC3200 RAM.

As for a Mobo, most people here seem to like Asus. Personally, I'd go with Abit(I have the AN8 as my sig shows) and I've been quite pleased with it along with the other Abit mobos I've owned.

G_me · 06-16-2005, 04:49 PM

do u think that a AMD ATHLON 64BIT 3200+ 512K 939PIN BOX will be good with new games like BF2 and B&W2 ? or should i take an intel with DDR2 ?
and is the 6800 series equal to the X800XL ?
and for the mobo could u tell me which exact model i should buy ?

thanks for all the help

**jancz3rt** · 06-16-2005, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G_me

do u think that a AMD ATHLON 64BIT 3200+ 512K 939PIN BOX will be good with new games like BF2 and B&W2 ? or should i take an intel with DDR2 ?
and is the 6800 series equal to the X800XL ?
and for the mobo could u tell me which exact model i should buy ?

thanks for all the help

Yes the processor should be fine. Really, the 3500+ would be a nicer choice unless you intend to overclock. The 6800 (GT) is rouhly comparable to the X800XL. What features are you looking for in the motherboard?

JAN

G_me · 06-16-2005, 05:04 PM

in the motherboard i need: 4*usb
no need in network card onboard
i ned a sound card onboard
and it needs to be good for gaming

LittleHoov · 06-16-2005, 05:04 PM

that seems a little much for a +3200, try this instead http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103535 i know its not a huge price difference, but 40 bucks is 40 bucks.. and thats a good video card, very comparable to the 6800gt, they run neck and neck in almost everything, sometimes the ATI wins sometimes the Nvidia wins, just depends on which game it is....my X800 XL was 250, but i bought it refurbished off of Newegg...they had refurbed ones as low as 200, but they sold them all before i could snatch one, they may have some more later...but anyway i just thought i would help you save a little money on that CPU, another choice if your into overclocking would be to pick up a +3000 and a good overclocking board and memory, they easily overclock to +3500 speeds...im going to keep mine stock for now, but if the need arises ill know what to do

as for your motherboard try this article on for size http://www.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20050103/

usually you cant go wrong with a big manufacturer such as DFI, Asus, MSI, and there are others that are good too, but those are ones that people around here love.

**The_Other_One** · 06-16-2005, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LittleHoov

usually you cant go wrong with a big manufacturer such as DFI, Asus, MSI, and there are others that are good too, but those are ones that people around here love.

What about Abit?!

I guess I'm just stuck on that brand because that was what I used in my first computer, and it's still running perfectly. I never had ANY problems out of it(other than harddrive failures, Maxtor related

)

G_me · 06-16-2005, 05:24 PM

there is one problem with newegg do they send overseas to Israel ?

alanuofm · 06-16-2005, 05:44 PM

ddr2 can't be used on amd's. they have different number of pins. 184 vs 240 i think?

LittleHoov · 06-16-2005, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G_me

there is one problem with newegg do they send overseas to Israel ?

nope they sure dont, but i was not aware you were from Israel, no where in your post does it say that, or your location, so i didnt know, sorry....if only you lived in Puerto Rico

06-16-2005, 03:57 PM	#1 (permalink)
G_me Bronze Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 42	i need help with building my next computer hi i want to buy a new computer and i dont know what to buy i saw this nice graphics card : HIS X800XL IceQ II Turbo 256MB PCIe i would like to know what u think about it ? it costs $403 i want a good AMD 64 but i dont know which ? i am thinking about the :AMD ATHLON 64BIT 3200+ 512K 939PIN BOX it costs $234 and some good 512mb of ram will i need more for gaming ? i want : DDR II 512MB 533 MAJOR it costs $51 and i need a good Pci Express motherboard to run it all and i have no idea which to choose ? my budget is about $700-800 but i know a store that sells me parts for a cheap price thanks so much to whoever will help me Last edited by G_me; 06-16-2005 at 04:34 PM.

06-16-2005, 04:29 PM	#2 (permalink)
The_Other_One Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lexington, NC Age: 24 Posts: 12,382	OK, first off I have no clue how Isrealian(?) dollars compare to USD unless you mean those are converted from whatever to USD. I'm going to assume that... The video card is a rip. Newegg has that one for $300. Probably a pretty good choice, but more people seem to be going with nvidia's cards. If you wait a bit, I beleive their next series is comming out shortly, and you could probably get a 6800 series for pretty cheap. ATI will probably be follwoing soon if you really want ATI. RAM looks to be a good deal. You might want more, but 512M should do alright, at least to get started. Now, that's DDR2... You're asking if a mobo and have an AMD processor. AMD's can't use DDR2. Well, they might be able to, but no faster than PC3200(I've heard slower with DDR2 RAM) So I'd reccodmend you looking for some plain PC3200 RAM. As for a Mobo, most people here seem to like Asus. Personally, I'd go with Abit(I have the AN8 as my sig shows) and I've been quite pleased with it along with the other Abit mobos I've owned. __________________ Desktop * Athlon X2 4200 \| 2G RAM \| 160G HD \| 7600GT Laptop1 * C2D T5550 \| 3G RAM \| 120G HD \| Intel x3100 Laptop2 * C2D T5250 \| 2G RAM \| 160G HD \| Intel x3100

06-16-2005, 05:04 PM	#6 (permalink)
LittleHoov Gold Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Climax Springs, Missouri Age: 21 Posts: 311	that seems a little much for a +3200, try this instead http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103535 i know its not a huge price difference, but 40 bucks is 40 bucks.. and thats a good video card, very comparable to the 6800gt, they run neck and neck in almost everything, sometimes the ATI wins sometimes the Nvidia wins, just depends on which game it is....my X800 XL was 250, but i bought it refurbished off of Newegg...they had refurbed ones as low as 200, but they sold them all before i could snatch one, they may have some more later...but anyway i just thought i would help you save a little money on that CPU, another choice if your into overclocking would be to pick up a +3000 and a good overclocking board and memory, they easily overclock to +3500 speeds...im going to keep mine stock for now, but if the need arises ill know what to do as for your motherboard try this article on for size http://www.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20050103/ usually you cant go wrong with a big manufacturer such as DFI, Asus, MSI, and there are others that are good too, but those are ones that people around here love. __________________ ZTSystems Notebook Intel Core Duo 2 TS5450 1.66ghz 3GB DDR2 RAM 250GB Hard Drive Nvidia 8600M GT OCed at 600/430 plus a host of other goodies. Last edited by LittleHoov; 06-16-2005 at 05:11 PM.

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06-16-2005, 04:49 PM	#3 (permalink)
G_me Bronze Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 42	do u think that a AMD ATHLON 64BIT 3200+ 512K 939PIN BOX will be good with new games like BF2 and B&W2 ? or should i take an intel with DDR2 ? and is the 6800 series equal to the X800XL ? and for the mobo could u tell me which exact model i should buy ? thanks for all the help

06-16-2005, 05:04 PM	#5 (permalink)
G_me Bronze Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 42	in the motherboard i need: 4*usb no need in network card onboard i ned a sound card onboard and it needs to be good for gaming

06-16-2005, 05:24 PM	#8 (permalink)
G_me Bronze Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 42	there is one problem with newegg do they send overseas to Israel ?

06-16-2005, 05:44 PM	#9 (permalink)
alanuofm Diamond Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,630	ddr2 can't be used on amd's. they have different number of pins. 184 vs 240 i think?