Which is Better?

Warmskin · 07-02-2009, 01:00 AM

All things else being equal, which would be a better system for gaming:
System #1: i7-975, GTX275, 12GB DDR3
System #2: i7-950, GTX295, 6GB DDR3

Just trying to find out if that GTX295 nVidia would make up for the obvious better specs of sys #1...
Thanks a lot.

**bomberboysk** · 07-02-2009, 01:45 AM

Why would you spend the money on a 950/975, to be honest a 920 with a GTX295 and 6gb of memory would play pretty much any game, especially after overclocking.

mike pyne · 07-02-2009, 08:55 AM

Hi Warmskin,
I would like to recommend on System #2: i7-950, GTX295, 6GB DDR3, Well if you are looking for gaming machine why don't you try for AMD Xenon, it support great gaming.

Regards
Mike

Fatback · 07-02-2009, 10:41 AM

You don't need a i7-950/975 a 920 with a GTX 295 with 6GB RAM will play anything you won't don't spend that much on a CPU you don't need.

Warmskin · 07-02-2009, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fatback

You don't need a i7-950/975 a 920 with a GTX 295 with 6GB RAM will play anything you won't don't spend that much on a CPU you don't need.

Well, the actual price on System #1: i7-975, GTX275, 12GB DDR3 is ~$300 cheaper than System #2: i7-950, GTX295, 6GB DDR3. I know - hard to believe. I know I don't really need all this power right now, but I'm just trying to buy a PC that I don't have to upgrade in a few years. I'm sick of that hassle. The real problem is this: I've read so many horror stories about buying on line and returning defective merchandise that I just don't want to hassle with that. I was looking first at actually customizing at Velocity Micro's (VM) site and then I found that the Fry's in the my area is going to have system #1 available soon for quite a bit less money than the custom made VM (Sys#2). *Both* PCs are VM. If I buy from Fry's I can just take it in for any needed repairs. My experience with their tech dept. in the past has been positive. I'd get my machine back in a few days. If I buy direct from VM's site, and if something goes wrong... well, I don't really want to put myself through that. Their 'on site' (someone comes to my house) repair option is at *their own discretion*, and I've heard they usually *don't* send anyone. I'm just at the point in my life (I'm definitely what you'd call an 'older gamer') that I want as few problems as necessary. And money is not quite as much a concern as when I was younger. Oh, it's a concern alright - just not what it used to be...

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Thanks to all for your responses.

**bomberboysk** · 07-02-2009, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warmskin

Well, the actual price on System #1: i7-975, GTX275, 12GB DDR3 is ~$300 cheaper than System #2: i7-950, GTX295, 6GB DDR3. I know - hard to believe. I know I don't really need all this power right now, but I'm just trying to buy a PC that I don't have to upgrade in a few years. I'm sick of that hassle. The real problem is this: I've read so many horror stories about buying on line and returning defective merchandise that I just don't want to hassle with that. I was looking first at actually customizing at Velocity Micro's (VM) site and then I found that the Fry's in the my area is going to have system #1 available soon for quite a bit less money than the custom made VM (Sys#2). *Both* PCs are VM. If I buy from Fry's I can just take it in for any needed repairs. My experience with their tech dept. in the past has been positive. I'd get my machine back in a few days. If I buy direct from VM's site, and if something goes wrong... well, I don't really want to put myself through that. Their 'on site' (someone comes to my house) repair option is at *their own discretion*, and I've heard they usually *don't* send anyone. I'm just at the point in my life (I'm definitely what you'd call an 'older gamer') that I want as few problems as necessary. And money is not quite as much a concern as when I was younger. Oh, it's a concern alright - just not what it used to be...

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Thanks to all for your responses.

The cpu's are all the same, just the clockspeed more or less. You can overclock the i7 920 to sleeps the same as the 975. You want to have the best gpu possible though, as any of the i7 cpu's are not going to bottleneck a current gpu.

Warmskin · 07-02-2009, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bomberboysk

The cpu's are all the same, just the clockspeed more or less. You can overclock the i7 920 to sleeps the same as the 975. You want to have the best gpu possible though, as any of the i7 cpu's are not going to bottleneck a current gpu.

Thanks, problem is, I cannot find a retail store that offers a GTX295 in any of their PCs.

Is the GTX 275 that much slower than the GTX295?

funkysnair · 07-02-2009, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike pyne

Hi Warmskin,
I would like to recommend on System #2: i7-950, GTX295, 6GB DDR3, Well if you are looking for gaming machine why don't you try for AMD Xenon, it support great gaming.

Regards
Mike

950? that is complete overkill, you do realise that the i7 920 is far more than anyone would need

it would take a massive gpu for the a i7 920 to become a bottle neck

amd dont do a xeon chip intel do and its a server cpu (expensive)

stick with a i7-920, 295gtx and 6gig ddr3-that is plenty power seriously

**bomberboysk** · 07-02-2009, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warmskin

Thanks, problem is, I cannot find a retail store that offers a GTX295 in any of their PCs.

Is the GTX 275 that much slower than the GTX295?

The GTX295 is two gtx275's on one board. How good are you with computers? Have you ever thought about building your own? Its not very difficult, and we can help you with a parts list

How to Build a Computer - Step by Step (With Photos)

Fatback · 07-02-2009, 10:14 PM

Like boomer said it would be better to build you own system it really easy to do. No the GTX 275 is no where near the GTX 295. 2 GTX 275=1 GTX 295 so you could get 2 GTX 275s or 2 ATI Radeon 4890s. The 950 does not have that much more power then the 920and is not worth the extra $300. Have you thought about using AMD at all.

07-02-2009, 01:00 AM	#1 (permalink)
Warmskin New Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 5	Which is Better? - Thanks All things else being equal, which would be a better system for gaming: System #1: i7-975, GTX275, 12GB DDR3 System #2: i7-950, GTX295, 6GB DDR3 Just trying to find out if that GTX295 nVidia would make up for the obvious better specs of sys #1... Thanks a lot.

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mike pyne Bronze Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 55	Hi Warmskin, I would like to recommend on System #2: i7-950, GTX295, 6GB DDR3, Well if you are looking for gaming machine why don't you try for AMD Xenon, it support great gaming. Regards Mike __________________ PC Rental Server Rental

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Fatback Diamond Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Kannapolis, NC Age: 18 Posts: 2,387	You don't need a i7-950/975 a 920 with a GTX 295 with 6GB RAM will play anything you won't don't spend that much on a CPU you don't need. __________________ Display: 40" Polaroid LCD TV Mobo: ASUS M4A78-EM CPU:AMD Phenom X3 8650 @2.6Ghz RAM: 4GB OCZ Blade Series @908Mhz GPU: XFX HD 4850 512MB PSU: 400w Corsair HDD: OS:250GB Seagate 7200.10/Storage:WD Caviar Blue 320GB OS: Windows Vista Home Premium 32bit/Linux Ubuntu 32bit Fatback Definition

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Fatback Diamond Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Kannapolis, NC Age: 18 Posts: 2,387	Like boomer said it would be better to build you own system it really easy to do. No the GTX 275 is no where near the GTX 295. 2 GTX 275=1 GTX 295 so you could get 2 GTX 275s or 2 ATI Radeon 4890s. The 950 does not have that much more power then the 920and is not worth the extra $300. Have you thought about using AMD at all. __________________ Display: 40" Polaroid LCD TV Mobo: ASUS M4A78-EM CPU:AMD Phenom X3 8650 @2.6Ghz RAM: 4GB OCZ Blade Series @908Mhz GPU: XFX HD 4850 512MB PSU: 400w Corsair HDD: OS:250GB Seagate 7200.10/Storage:WD Caviar Blue 320GB OS: Windows Vista Home Premium 32bit/Linux Ubuntu 32bit Fatback Definition

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