AMD Athlon 64 x2 Dual Core

Livzz · 06-25-2005, 02:47 PM

Geez... i was looking through newegg.com, and saw an ad for an amd dual core processor! the price of the 4800+ model seems to be similar to that of the current FX55 (only a guess at converting to AUD), but i'm interested to know what you people think of it... If i was planning to buy an FX55, should i get that or a high-end athlon64 x2??

i've read in other posts that a high L2 cache can effectively slow the processor down... the new dual cores from amd have up to 2Gb (1Gb + 1Gb). Will that mean that they are a bit "slow"??

joshj · 06-25-2005, 04:26 PM

It all depends on what you need. Are you going to be doing just one program at a time, or are there times that you'll have two or more running? I would personally go with the X2, because it will be a little more responsive. btw, the cache is 2MB, not 2GB.

**apj101** · 06-25-2005, 06:20 PM

for a better understanding of cpus, and the architecture
read
Cpu 101]

as for my opinion it really all hinges on what you're going to be using the machine for. the FX55s are for high end gaming rigs and are still a waste of cash for that. The dual X2 are good and have a good boost in a multi thread environment. if budget was no option i would go with the X2 4800+ toledo core more than enough for gaming and my work. But then i dont have that much money

Livzz · 06-26-2005, 12:36 PM

yeh, it is for gaming... and probly a bit of multitasking (i hate my computer when its burning cds/dvds because it cannot do ANYTHING else...)

essentially i want to get a deliberately over the top gaming computer... so would an FX55 or athlon64 x2 4800+ be better?

and my bad about the Gb cache!! but even with 2Mb, will that effectively slow it down, or lower its performance? i had a look at the CPU101 post from praetor, that said that it wont be too noticable in AMD processors...

**jancz3rt** · 06-26-2005, 12:43 PM

The X2 is considerably better when you consider MULTITASKING (Running many different tasks at once). The FX55 is a better performer I would suppose when it comes to pure GAMING and other single tasks. If I were you I would have a look here and see what the performance of the Athlon X2 4800+ is.

http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20050603/index.html

JAN

kof2000 · 06-26-2005, 01:49 PM

looks like amd is winner. i would like one of those cases they use but they dont sell them.

Livzz · 06-26-2005, 02:25 PM

what cases?

mgoldb2 · 06-26-2005, 05:58 PM

In most of today games the athlon fx-55 most likly will be the better performer. I not so certain about future games like UT:2007. That because games like that going to be made mutithreaded. This I would think gives a advantage to the dual core cpu because it can handle 2 threads at the same time.

kof2000 · 06-26-2005, 08:15 PM

the cases they put intel and amd stress test.

06-25-2005, 02:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
Livzz Gold Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Australia Age: 21 Posts: 297	AMD Athlon 64 x2 Dual Core Geez... i was looking through newegg.com, and saw an ad for an amd dual core processor! the price of the 4800+ model seems to be similar to that of the current FX55 (only a guess at converting to AUD), but i'm interested to know what you people think of it... If i was planning to buy an FX55, should i get that or a high-end athlon64 x2?? i've read in other posts that a high L2 cache can effectively slow the processor down... the new dual cores from amd have up to 2Gb (1Gb + 1Gb). Will that mean that they are a bit "slow"?? Last edited by Livzz; 06-25-2005 at 02:53 PM.

06-25-2005, 04:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
joshj Silver Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 19 Posts: 176	It all depends on what you need. Are you going to be doing just one program at a time, or are there times that you'll have two or more running? I would personally go with the X2, because it will be a little more responsive. btw, the cache is 2MB, not 2GB. __________________ Athlon64 3700+, EPoX EP-9NDA3+, 1GB 2-3-2-5 DDR400, BFG 7800GS OC @ 505/1.46, 250GB, 160GB, 120GB, DVD, CD-RW, 570W Skyhawk PowerOne, WinXP Pro

06-25-2005, 06:20 PM	#3 (permalink)
apj101 Administrator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London Age: 26 Posts: 9,147	for a better understanding of cpus, and the architecture read Cpu 101] as for my opinion it really all hinges on what you're going to be using the machine for. the FX55s are for high end gaming rigs and are still a waste of cash for that. The dual X2 are good and have a good boost in a multi thread environment. if budget was no option i would go with the X2 4800+ toledo core more than enough for gaming and my work. But then i dont have that much money __________________ What did one snow man say to the other? can you smell carrot? The fight is won or lost far away from witnesses - behind the lines, in the gym, and out there on the road, long before I dance under those lights. How you do anything, is how you do everything! Last edited by apj101; 06-25-2005 at 06:37 PM.

06-26-2005, 12:43 PM	#5 (permalink)
jancz3rt Moderator - F@H Guru Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Czech Republic Age: 23 Posts: 4,009	Yeah The X2 is considerably better when you consider MULTITASKING (Running many different tasks at once). The FX55 is a better performer I would suppose when it comes to pure GAMING and other single tasks. If I were you I would have a look here and see what the performance of the Athlon X2 4800+ is. http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20050603/index.html JAN __________________ A64 3700+ @ 2.65Ghz ::: 7300GT @ 600/1500 ::: 2GB RAM @ 440Mhz www.CZ3RT.com ::: FOLDING FOR THE GOOD OF MANKIND ::: F@H Team 44358

06-26-2005, 01:49 PM	#6 (permalink)
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06-26-2005, 12:36 PM	#4 (permalink)
Livzz Gold Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Australia Age: 21 Posts: 297	yeh, it is for gaming... and probly a bit of multitasking (i hate my computer when its burning cds/dvds because it cannot do ANYTHING else...) essentially i want to get a deliberately over the top gaming computer... so would an FX55 or athlon64 x2 4800+ be better? and my bad about the Gb cache!! but even with 2Mb, will that effectively slow it down, or lower its performance? i had a look at the CPU101 post from praetor, that said that it wont be too noticable in AMD processors...

06-26-2005, 02:25 PM	#7 (permalink)
Livzz Gold Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Australia Age: 21 Posts: 297	what cases?

06-26-2005, 05:58 PM	#8 (permalink)
mgoldb2 VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Age: 25 Posts: 1,259	In most of today games the athlon fx-55 most likly will be the better performer. I not so certain about future games like UT:2007. That because games like that going to be made mutithreaded. This I would think gives a advantage to the dual core cpu because it can handle 2 threads at the same time. __________________ Acer A11912B 19"montior Aspire x-superalien case Asus k8t800 pro motherboard athlon 64 fx-55 2GB(2 of 1GB) of Geil DDR ram Geforce 6800 ultra 2 Seagate 200GB 7200RPM Model ST3200822A configure as RAID 0 1 DVDRW and 1 CDRW 3.5 drive sound blaster audigey2 zs logitech 2300 thx certified 2.1 speakers

06-26-2005, 08:15 PM	#9 (permalink)
kof2000 Diamond Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Oahu Age: 26 Posts: 6,273	the cases they put intel and amd stress test. __________________ QX9650@4.2 swiftech \|9600@3.0 9700 nt 780i \| 790fx 8gb ddr1200 \| 8gb ddr1200 2x150gb 3x1tb \|2x250gb 3x8800gtx \|3x2900xt 1gb 2x20xdvdrw \|2x20xdvdrw 15in1 card reader \|15in1 card reader ng15/g9 \|ng15/g9 1200w psu \|1200w psu 2x28" LCD \|2x28" LCD

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