PCI Express!!! What???

arclite20 · 06-29-2005, 01:38 AM

I am thinking about getting a new board. Alot of the new boards have PCi express slots. I have built 4 computers so far i never messed with PCI express. PCI express X1 and PCI express x16 could someone explain and should i look for a new board with these slots instead of regular 1 agp and 5 PCI

elmarcorulz · 06-29-2005, 01:55 AM

pci express is for graphics cards. and are faster than agp so it would be worth investing in them. but of course, it means a new graphics card

LittleHoov · 06-29-2005, 05:21 AM

the cards themselves are not faster than AGP, but PCI-Express allows for much more bandwidth than AGP, making it faster....so yes PCI-E is the way to go...x1 and x4? are not used for video cards, they are used for things like network cards and the like..x16 is used for video cards...i have a feeling AGP will linger around for a while longer, but it is more or less being phased out.

Clearion · 06-29-2005, 03:26 PM

PCi-E is the way of the future

soon agp will dissepear from the market so if you buy a board whith agp you will be having problems when you want to upgrade your system, also the PCI-E is a bit faster so that would be a much better choice

elmarcorulz · 06-29-2005, 03:36 PM

but buying pci express, means an upgrade of mobo and cpu.

CBizzle · 06-29-2005, 07:27 PM

Another thing to do with PCI-e is SLI. I currently have an AGP card and it works pretty good for most games, but I would like it to run a lot better and also for upcoming games I don't know how it would hold up. SLI allows for TWO graphics cards to be used and I assume this just means twice the amount of video RAM? (Maybe someone could go into a little further on this?) If your'e going to buy one of these, yes its a little more expensive for the motherboard, but not too bad at all, around $150 USD. If your'e going to PCI-e anyway, I would rather spnd an extra 30 on the motherboard so in the future it makes for easier and "cheaper" upgrading...

Modoman · 06-29-2005, 09:09 PM

pci-e cards, ive noticed, are sometimes cheaper than their agp cousin...

[-0MEGA-] · 06-29-2005, 09:23 PM

there is about an 80% performance difference when you have 2 video cards, and ya, pretty much everything just gets doubled (ram, speeds, pipelines, etc). GO with PCI-E, and try to find one with 2 of them, so you can SLI in the future.

aramp1 · 06-29-2005, 09:43 PM

The PCI-Express X1 slot is useless. I bought my mobo before I really got into computers not really knowing what to get. I decided to go with the a mobo that had 1 PCI-E x16 slot for the video card 4 PCI-E x1 slots and 2 regular PCI slots. So, now I have 4 empty spaces that I wish I would have had regular PCI slots. I could have at least added IDE or SATA connections, but with the PCI-E, no one makes any cards for them.

**apj101** · 06-29-2005, 09:46 PM

Quote:

but buying pci express, means an upgrade of mobo and cpu.

you dont have to change your cpu, and you would only get a pci-e graphics card if you already had or where getting a new motherboard that supported it

06-29-2005, 01:38 AM	#1 (permalink)
arclite20 New Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: South Florida Posts: 17	PCI Express!!! What??? I am thinking about getting a new board. Alot of the new boards have PCi express slots. I have built 4 computers so far i never messed with PCI express. PCI express X1 and PCI express x16 could someone explain and should i look for a new board with these slots instead of regular 1 agp and 5 PCI

06-29-2005, 01:55 AM	#2 (permalink)
elmarcorulz VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Age: 22 Posts: 6,033	pci express is for graphics cards. and are faster than agp so it would be worth investing in them. but of course, it means a new graphics card __________________ C2D E6300 @ 2.6Ghz Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 2GB DDR2 667 1TB (1x500GB 2x250GB HDD) BFG 8800GTS 320MB PFC Til I Die

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LittleHoov Gold Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Climax Springs, Missouri Age: 21 Posts: 311	the cards themselves are not faster than AGP, but PCI-Express allows for much more bandwidth than AGP, making it faster....so yes PCI-E is the way to go...x1 and x4? are not used for video cards, they are used for things like network cards and the like..x16 is used for video cards...i have a feeling AGP will linger around for a while longer, but it is more or less being phased out. __________________ ZTSystems Notebook Intel Core Duo 2 TS5450 1.66ghz 3GB DDR2 RAM 250GB Hard Drive Nvidia 8600M GT OCed at 600/430 plus a host of other goodies.

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Clearion Bronze Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Åland Age: 17 Posts: 49	PCi-E is the way of the future soon agp will dissepear from the market so if you buy a board whith agp you will be having problems when you want to upgrade your system, also the PCI-E is a bit faster so that would be a much better choice __________________ I am an unreal fanatic and i'm proud of it:)

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06-29-2005, 07:27 PM	#6 (permalink)
CBizzle Bronze Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati Age: 19 Posts: 70	Another thing to do with PCI-e is SLI. I currently have an AGP card and it works pretty good for most games, but I would like it to run a lot better and also for upcoming games I don't know how it would hold up. SLI allows for TWO graphics cards to be used and I assume this just means twice the amount of video RAM? (Maybe someone could go into a little further on this?) If your'e going to buy one of these, yes its a little more expensive for the motherboard, but not too bad at all, around $150 USD. If your'e going to PCI-e anyway, I would rather spnd an extra 30 on the motherboard so in the future it makes for easier and "cheaper" upgrading... __________________ AMD Athlon 64 3500+ ClawHammer ABIT AV8 (K8T800 Pro) 1 gig Kingston valure RAM (2x512) ATI Xtasy 9600 256MB SB Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro 80 GB Seagate HDD X-Dreamer II case Zalman 7700-Cu 120mm CPU fan Last edited by CBizzle; 06-29-2005 at 07:29 PM.

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06-29-2005, 09:23 PM	#8 (permalink)
[-0MEGA-] VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Concord, NH Age: 20 Posts: 27,389	there is about an 80% performance difference when you have 2 video cards, and ya, pretty much everything just gets doubled (ram, speeds, pipelines, etc). GO with PCI-E, and try to find one with 2 of them, so you can SLI in the future. __________________ Core 2 Quad Q9550 @ 4.1GHz Asus Rampage Formula X48 ATI 4870X2 2GB GDDR5 (800/1900) 4GB (2x 2GB) DDR2 960 (6-6-6-18) 750GB SATAII w/32MB Creative SB X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty SilverStone 750W +12V@60A 3DMark06: 22605

06-29-2005, 09:43 PM	#9 (permalink)
aramp1 Silver Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Age: 33 Posts: 205	The PCI-Express X1 slot is useless. I bought my mobo before I really got into computers not really knowing what to get. I decided to go with the a mobo that had 1 PCI-E x16 slot for the video card 4 PCI-E x1 slots and 2 regular PCI slots. So, now I have 4 empty spaces that I wish I would have had regular PCI slots. I could have at least added IDE or SATA connections, but with the PCI-E, no one makes any cards for them. __________________ ARAMP1 Gigabyte GA-8GPNXP Duo Motherboard Intel LGA 775 P4 640 3.2GHz Processor Corsair WMS Extreme DDR PC-3200 Memory Leadtek NVIDIA GeForce 6800 256 MB Video Western Digital Raptor 74GB 10K RPM Harddrive Plextor PX-716SA/SW 16X Dual Layer DVD+/-RW Mitsui USB digital card reader/floppy

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