Wiring

Deus Ex Machina · 06-29-2005, 07:55 AM

Damn, oaky, one step at a time.

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Please post links to the stuff if you can...

Everything look ok so far. Definetly enough RAM! Check the mobo. Mine came with 4 SATA cables and at least one IDE cable...

I'll try to get links up if I can. Since I posted, I've downgraded to 1 gig of Corsair XMS, because I can add more later if I have to, but I realized that my X800PRO only had 12 pipelines. With the money saved from the RAM, I upgraded to a X800XL and saved 50 bucks. At the same time, I'm tempted to just take the hit and buy 2 gigs of Corsair XMS, because well.. it would be awesome.

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The only thing you may need to check is that the PS has enough power connections to be able to plug in all of your stuff. You can get a Molex double adaptor form a PC shop to give you an extra power socket.

Good to hear about the supplied cables, I should be good there. I am worried about my PSU now.. I think I remember reading that the Zalman had lots of hookups, but I can buy one of those adaptors just in case.

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youll prolly need the heatsink glue stuff to install your proc/heatsink assembly

A retail processor should come with that, no? If not, can anyone reccomend a good one?

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I don't think your ready for this.It's not that simple or easy. Pay the price for a while and let an expert do this.

Negatory. I tinker around in this POS pretty regularly, and I have two experienced friends nearby who have agreed to come if I need the help.

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Umm... just checking as you never know but...do you have a monitor, keyboard & mouse too?

Yep, just need a tower for now. Looking to upgrade my CRT to a 19" LCD in the future and get a nicer keyboard, but that's minor.

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That being said though, you should be fine as long as you do a little bit or reading first... Do a search of this forum for other First Time Builders so that you can see what problems they had and thus avoid experiencing them firsthand.

Been doing that for the last couple weeks, I'm pretty confident that it will turn out okay.

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What is your choice.
A better mbd.cpu and AGP for my happy ATI 9000 Pro
or a newer ? PCI x system ? and buying a new video card. ?

Even though you're hijacking my thread..

From what I've read, PCI-Express, even if it doesn't totally replace AGP, is the way of the future. I don't really care personally, but there usually isn't much added cost for using PCI-E vs AGP, so why not be safe?

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wiring is a pain in the ass, at first my rig is so clean and neat and when i added more fans and stuff it gets all mess up. the psu that came with case case has like choke molex connectors to begin with LOL. i had to use some bending and red ribbons.

Yeah, i'm going to have to get some cable-ties, because I'm really obsessive about my box being neat, even though it won't have any tacky windows or anything.

bluto2 · 06-30-2005, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Deus Ex Machina

Damn, oaky, one step at a time.

I'll try to get links up if I can. Since I posted, I've downgraded to 1 gig of Corsair XMS, because I can add more later if I have to, but I realized that my X800PRO only had 12 pipelines. With the money saved from the RAM, I upgraded to a X800XL and saved 50 bucks. At the same time, I'm tempted to just take the hit and buy 2 gigs of Corsair XMS, because well.. it would be awesome.

Good to hear about the supplied cables, I should be good there. I am worried about my PSU now.. I think I remember reading that the Zalman had lots of hookups, but I can buy one of those adaptors just in case.

A retail processor should come with that, no? If not, can anyone reccomend a good one?

Negatory. I tinker around in this POS pretty regularly, and I have two experienced friends nearby who have agreed to come if I need the help.

Yep, just need a tower for now. Looking to upgrade my CRT to a 19" LCD in the future and get a nicer keyboard, but that's minor.

Been doing that for the last couple weeks, I'm pretty confident that it will turn out okay.

Even though you're hijacking my thread..

From what I've read, PCI-Express, even if it doesn't totally replace AGP, is the way of the future. I don't really care personally, but there usually isn't much added cost for using PCI-E vs AGP, so why not be safe?

Yeah, i'm going to have to get some cable-ties, because I'm really obsessive about my box being neat, even though it won't have any tacky windows or anything.

Have you seen these new cables,I got mine over 2 years ago.
Neato.

But anything but a mid tower or larger will be cramped.
Don't get a mini .

alanuofm · 06-30-2005, 07:12 AM

are you really 71?

bluto2 · 07-01-2005, 05:36 AM

Why would i lie.Have i ever lied to you before ?

Why do you hide yours ?

j0hn00 · 07-01-2005, 06:55 AM

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Lian Li PC-60USB B2 Silver Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

I've got the same case and can tell you that Lian Li did a superb job in making the wiring user friendly.

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NEC Silver IDE DVD Burner Model ND-3520A SILVER - OEM

Why not the ND-3540A? It's actually cheaper at Newegg.

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ZALMAN ZM400B-APS ATX 400W Power Supply - Retail

That PSU only has 12V@18A... and at that price, I'd look for something better. Check out PSU 101 for recommendations.

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A retail processor should come with that, no? If not, can anyone reccomend a good one?

The included stock HSF will have a thermal pad on it. No need to get thermal grease.

bluto2 · 07-01-2005, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by kof2000

wiring is a pain in the ass, at first my rig is so clean and neat and when i added more fans and stuff it gets all mess up. the psu that came with case case has like choke molex connectors to begin with LOL. i had to use some bending and red ribbons.

Have fun.

**Praetor** · 07-01-2005, 08:38 PM

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Am I going to need to order a SATA cable for my hard drive since it's OEM

No: it should come with the mobo

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What about my DVD-R drive (also OEM)?

Again, no. Buy everything now, worst case you go and grab a cable from the corner electronics store for like $5

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Please post links to the stuff if you can...

No need dude .... he listed out the exact parts

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youll prolly need the heatsink glue stuff to install your proc/heatsink assembly

It comes preapplied to the stock heatsink

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I don't think your ready for this.It's not that simple or easy.Pay the price for a while and let an expert do this.

What would you know about expert? I dont think ive had you as a customer before

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I've been at this for 16 years and am undecided wether my next MB and cpu xpress will restrict me to buying a new video card to use it.
What is your choice.
A better mbd.cpu and AGP for my happy ATI 9000 Pro
or a newer ? PCI x system ? and buying a new video card. ?
They don't give you a choice,i wonder why.Don't you ?

Well for someone who's been at it for 16 years you dont seem to know that "cpu express" is just plain silliness and that PCIX and AGP (and hell PCIE and AGP) can coexist)

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but I realized that my X800PRO only had 12 pipelines. With the money saved from the RAM, I upgraded to a X800XL and saved 50 bucks

Something you might consider is unlocking the extra 4 pipes on the X800Pro: its a very common route chosen

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A retail processor should come with that, no? If not, can anyone reccomend a good one?

Retail comes with it

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Even though you're hijacking my thread..

Better he get confused with where he;s posting rather than confused on which side of the highway to drive....

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From what I've read, PCI-Express, even if it doesn't totally replace AGP, is the way of the future. I don't really care personally, but there usually isn't much added cost for using PCI-E vs AGP, so why not be safe?

Yeah minor error: he mentioned PCIX not PCIE

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Its not a pain in mine.

Yeah but how about arthritis?

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