Going back to Quad Core.

Bootup05 · 10-20-2009, 08:43 AM

Hey guys.

I used to have a Q6600 @ 3.6GHz. Now have a E5200 @ 3.6GHz, obviously now have a FPS drop due to the bottleneck.

I've heard Q8200's are bad overclockers.
I have 6GB of RAM (2x1GB+2x2GB) that will not do anything over 400MHz (ish) Different brands etc.

I need a Quad with a high multi because of that reason.

I like to play my games at 1920 x 1200 4AA/16AF if possible.

I have either the option of buying a 4GB kit of PC8500 and a quad with low multi (Q8xxxx)

OR

Get a quad with high multi & stick with my current 6GB of ram.

I can pick Up a Q8200 & 4GB of PC8500 for £135. Which I doubt will get me very far OC wise?

I could alternatively pick up a Q6700 for £135. 10 Multi is good for my 400FSB.

Can someone give me some approximate clocks of a Q6700? I use a TRUE in push/pull.

What would you guys do?

Get some faster, less capacity ram with a smaller die, slower quad with less chance of an OC, whilst at the same time having a 10% advantage clock for clock because of the chip size.

or

Stick with my 6GB of slower ram, pick up a Q6700 with a high multi and try my best with it?

What is the best option?

I'm more inclined to go with the Q67 right now.

BTW. Q67 over Q66 as the Q67 is now cheaper.

Stepping will be G0.
Reviews on the page, one guy has his at stock VCORE 3GHz.
Others on increased voltage have 3.4-3.9GHz stable.

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Fans for a TRUE. Mine are unequal, I did have equal fans (some enermax's, 70CFM @ 18dB.) Until one broke, now I have unequal fans, pressure and speeds.

What are the best fans for a TRUE? Bomberboysk did mention some in another thread but I can't find it right now. I know I need certain fans because of the way the TRUE is orientated.

Nevakonaza · 10-20-2009, 08:48 AM

In your situation id go for the Q6700...i think you will get a better overclock....also to mention that the Q6600-6700 HAS double the l2 cache of the Q8200.

I honestly dont know wht you sold your Q6600 in the first place

,I love mine.

Bootup05 · 10-20-2009, 08:50 AM

Headphones man!

I spent £140 on some AKG's that I thought were gonna be awesome! Didn't know I had to have an amp. Sold them on for something like £80

Anyway, thats the past

Q6700 1
Q8200 0

Nevakonaza · 10-20-2009, 08:58 AM

ohh man thats some expensive headphones

You could also consider one of these?

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9400 Socket 775 2.66GHz 1333FSB 6MB Cache
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/168134

But i dunno...i still think the Q6700...extra 2mb cache.

Bootup05 · 10-20-2009, 09:04 AM

I would at £13 extra. BUT.

Q9400 has a multi of 8x.

Max I can achieve OC wise is 8 x 400MHz. (ish) (3.2GHz)

Take in to account the die shrink and we're talking 3.5GHz when compared to a 65nm counterpart.

That is pretty much the low average of a Q6700 on decent air cooling.

Going out on the Q9400 I'd be loosing cache, £13 & maybe some overclockability.

I have been thinking over this for soem time, which is why I think the Q6700 is the best choice

maroon1 · 10-20-2009, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevakonaza

ohh man thats some expensive headphones

You could also consider one of these?

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9400 Socket 775 2.66GHz 1333FSB 6MB Cache
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/168134

But i dunno...i still think the Q6700...extra 2mb cache.

Even though it has 2MB L2 less cache, it performs better even at stock speeds

Yorkfield have more enhanced architecture

maroon1 · 10-20-2009, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bootup05

I like to play my games at 1920 x 1200 4AA/16AF if possible.

I recommend to changing your GPU if you want to play a those settings

Bootup05 · 10-20-2009, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maroon1

I recommend to changing your GPU if you want to play a those settings

That is next on my upgrade list

I can still get away with it with many of my games

Is there any comparisons to show the difference between a Q9400 @ 3.2GHz & a Q6700 @ 3.5GHz?

For me the Q67 is still slightly edging it

Bootup05 · 10-20-2009, 02:52 PM

Been looking over the multi's of all the 45nm chips.

Cheapest one I can go with for without spending ANY more money is the Q8200, get some decent ram for it, but it would still struggle to OC. I've heard maybe 1 or 2 people get it over 3.2GHz.

I think for the price, and potential, the higher cache, and known overclockability makes me say. I'm going to buy a Q6700!

I think....

Bootup05 · 10-20-2009, 03:06 PM

Ordered

Forgot to say what I actually ordered! lol

Q6700

I know its old tech, last, or, 2 generations old, but it's still a powerfull cpu! So It'll do me fine, for now at least

I'm also happy with the price I payed for it.

Beats the £350 I spent on a Q6600 a few years back!

10-20-2009, 08:43 AM	#1 (permalink)
Bootup05 Diamond Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: South East England Age: 18 Posts: 2,660	Going back to Quad Core. Hey guys. I used to have a Q6600 @ 3.6GHz. Now have a E5200 @ 3.6GHz, obviously now have a FPS drop due to the bottleneck. I've heard Q8200's are bad overclockers. I have 6GB of RAM (2x1GB+2x2GB) that will not do anything over 400MHz (ish) Different brands etc. I need a Quad with a high multi because of that reason. I like to play my games at 1920 x 1200 4AA/16AF if possible. I have either the option of buying a 4GB kit of PC8500 and a quad with low multi (Q8xxxx) OR Get a quad with high multi & stick with my current 6GB of ram. I can pick Up a Q8200 & 4GB of PC8500 for £135. Which I doubt will get me very far OC wise? I could alternatively pick up a Q6700 for £135. 10 Multi is good for my 400FSB. Can someone give me some approximate clocks of a Q6700? I use a TRUE in push/pull. What would you guys do? Get some faster, less capacity ram with a smaller die, slower quad with less chance of an OC, whilst at the same time having a 10% advantage clock for clock because of the chip size. or Stick with my 6GB of slower ram, pick up a Q6700 with a high multi and try my best with it? What is the best option? I'm more inclined to go with the Q67 right now. BTW. Q67 over Q66 as the Q67 is now cheaper. Stepping will be G0. Reviews on the page, one guy has his at stock VCORE 3GHz. Others on increased voltage have 3.4-3.9GHz stable. -------------------------------------- Fans for a TRUE. Mine are unequal, I did have equal fans (some enermax's, 70CFM @ 18dB.) Until one broke, now I have unequal fans, pressure and speeds. What are the best fans for a TRUE? Bomberboysk did mention some in another thread but I can't find it right now. I know I need certain fans because of the way the TRUE is orientated. __________________ Intel Q6700 @ 3.7GHz Gigabyte UD3P P45 6GB DDR2 800MHz Asus 4890 @ 975/4500 750GB Samsung Spinpoint - 320GB WD Caviar - 160GB Seagate USB Belinea 26" Wide LCD SoundBlaster Live 24bit USB - Acoustic Energy Aego M Thermaltate Ultimate Extreme Back in Push Pull Tagan 600W 48A Quad Rail Win 7 x64 RC

10-20-2009, 08:48 AM	#2 (permalink)
Nevakonaza VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: UK Age: 21 Posts: 12,759	In your situation id go for the Q6700...i think you will get a better overclock....also to mention that the Q6600-6700 HAS double the l2 cache of the Q8200. I honestly dont know wht you sold your Q6600 in the first place ,I love mine. __________________ Desktop= Core 2 Quad Q6600 GO @ 3.4Ghz\|MSI P35 Neo-F\|[5GB OCZ Vista Gold Series -6400 oc.\|XFX HD 4890 XT 1GB GDDR5 \| X-Fi Xtreme Fidelity 7.1\|Coolermaster Dominator 690 Black (Modded)\|OCZ ModXStream Pro 600w Modular\| 250Gb & 500GB Sata2 Avermedia Volar HDTV Tuner\|Windows 7 Home X64 Asus X58 Laptop Intel M575 2Ghz \|120GB Sata HDD \|Crucial 2GB DDR2 800mhz \|15.4 inch Widescreen display]\|Intel GM965\|Vista Basic 32Bit\|DVD-RW Last edited by Nevakonaza; 10-20-2009 at 08:51 AM.

10-20-2009, 08:50 AM	#3 (permalink)
Bootup05 Diamond Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: South East England Age: 18 Posts: 2,660	Headphones man! I spent £140 on some AKG's that I thought were gonna be awesome! Didn't know I had to have an amp. Sold them on for something like £80 Anyway, thats the past Q6700 1 Q8200 0 __________________ Intel Q6700 @ 3.7GHz Gigabyte UD3P P45 6GB DDR2 800MHz Asus 4890 @ 975/4500 750GB Samsung Spinpoint - 320GB WD Caviar - 160GB Seagate USB Belinea 26" Wide LCD SoundBlaster Live 24bit USB - Acoustic Energy Aego M Thermaltate Ultimate Extreme Back in Push Pull Tagan 600W 48A Quad Rail Win 7 x64 RC

10-20-2009, 08:58 AM	#4 (permalink)
Nevakonaza VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: UK Age: 21 Posts: 12,759	ohh man thats some expensive headphones You could also consider one of these? Intel Core 2 Quad Q9400 Socket 775 2.66GHz 1333FSB 6MB Cache http://www.ebuyer.com/product/168134 But i dunno...i still think the Q6700...extra 2mb cache. __________________ Desktop= Core 2 Quad Q6600 GO @ 3.4Ghz\|MSI P35 Neo-F\|[5GB OCZ Vista Gold Series -6400 oc.\|XFX HD 4890 XT 1GB GDDR5 \| X-Fi Xtreme Fidelity 7.1\|Coolermaster Dominator 690 Black (Modded)\|OCZ ModXStream Pro 600w Modular\| 250Gb & 500GB Sata2 Avermedia Volar HDTV Tuner\|Windows 7 Home X64 Asus X58 Laptop Intel M575 2Ghz \|120GB Sata HDD \|Crucial 2GB DDR2 800mhz \|15.4 inch Widescreen display]\|Intel GM965\|Vista Basic 32Bit\|DVD-RW

10-20-2009, 09:04 AM	#5 (permalink)
Bootup05 Diamond Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: South East England Age: 18 Posts: 2,660	I would at £13 extra. BUT. Q9400 has a multi of 8x. Max I can achieve OC wise is 8 x 400MHz. (ish) (3.2GHz) Take in to account the die shrink and we're talking 3.5GHz when compared to a 65nm counterpart. That is pretty much the low average of a Q6700 on decent air cooling. Going out on the Q9400 I'd be loosing cache, £13 & maybe some overclockability. I have been thinking over this for soem time, which is why I think the Q6700 is the best choice __________________ Intel Q6700 @ 3.7GHz Gigabyte UD3P P45 6GB DDR2 800MHz Asus 4890 @ 975/4500 750GB Samsung Spinpoint - 320GB WD Caviar - 160GB Seagate USB Belinea 26" Wide LCD SoundBlaster Live 24bit USB - Acoustic Energy Aego M Thermaltate Ultimate Extreme Back in Push Pull Tagan 600W 48A Quad Rail Win 7 x64 RC

10-20-2009, 02:52 PM	#9 (permalink)
Bootup05 Diamond Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: South East England Age: 18 Posts: 2,660	Been looking over the multi's of all the 45nm chips. Cheapest one I can go with for without spending ANY more money is the Q8200, get some decent ram for it, but it would still struggle to OC. I've heard maybe 1 or 2 people get it over 3.2GHz. I think for the price, and potential, the higher cache, and known overclockability makes me say. I'm going to buy a Q6700! I think.... __________________ Intel Q6700 @ 3.7GHz Gigabyte UD3P P45 6GB DDR2 800MHz Asus 4890 @ 975/4500 750GB Samsung Spinpoint - 320GB WD Caviar - 160GB Seagate USB Belinea 26" Wide LCD SoundBlaster Live 24bit USB - Acoustic Energy Aego M Thermaltate Ultimate Extreme Back in Push Pull Tagan 600W 48A Quad Rail Win 7 x64 RC

10-20-2009, 03:06 PM	#10 (permalink)
Bootup05 Diamond Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: South East England Age: 18 Posts: 2,660	Ordered Forgot to say what I actually ordered! lol Q6700 I know its old tech, last, or, 2 generations old, but it's still a powerfull cpu! So It'll do me fine, for now at least I'm also happy with the price I payed for it. Beats the £350 I spent on a Q6600 a few years back! __________________ Intel Q6700 @ 3.7GHz Gigabyte UD3P P45 6GB DDR2 800MHz Asus 4890 @ 975/4500 750GB Samsung Spinpoint - 320GB WD Caviar - 160GB Seagate USB Belinea 26" Wide LCD SoundBlaster Live 24bit USB - Acoustic Energy Aego M Thermaltate Ultimate Extreme Back in Push Pull Tagan 600W 48A Quad Rail Win 7 x64 RC Last edited by Bootup05; 10-20-2009 at 05:02 PM.

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