ETSA

This is just silly if you ask me.

http://consumerist.com/2009/11/smoki...-warranty.html

Dena [from Jobs' office] did advise me that nicotine is on OSHA's list of hazardous substances and Apple would not require an employee to repair anything deemed hazardous to their health. However, OSHA also lists calcium carbonate (found in calcium tablets), isopropyl alcohol (used to clean wounds), chlorine (used in swimming pools), hydrogen peroxide (also used to clean wounds), sucrose (a sugar), talc (as in powder), etc... as hazardous substances.

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Bodaggit23

I'll add this to the list of reasons I'll never buy a Mac.

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PabloTeK

Not pleasant stuff to use, I've done it and it really is bad!Chlorine is most definately dangerous in high concentrations!Again, wrong concentration = nastiness.
Not sure on this one, I guess i's again to do with quantities.
Amazingly Talcum Powder is dangerious if you breathe it in enough!

I'd say the real reason is that the drives don't like smoke. The PS3 & Wii (and any other slot loader in fact) will have issues as there's no protector. Nintendo I think are quite funny about replacing smoke-damaged consoles...

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Nevakonaza

ohh this is pathetic....apple what are you doing!

How the hell can smoking void warrenty...and how could they tell that smoke causes the problems?

Id expect this from M$...but not you apple!

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Bodaggit23

I don't think they're saying smoke causes the problems.

I think they're saying, they don't want their precious Apple
employees to be exposed to the various chemicals while they're
working on the junk.

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tlarkin

As some of you probably already know, I was a warranty repair tech for several years (6 years total) before moving on to better jobs. During that time I have seen so many nasty, smelly, and yes damaged computers from smoke. Tar builds up all over the circuit boards, fans cease to run, it causes over heating, and it also attracts moisture.

Yes, it can damage your machine, and yes I have seen it. I have had nasty chain smokers come into the shop back in the day and you could smell their computer from across the shop. I mean you could literally see the tar build up.

It damages the components, it is gross, it smells like ass, and yes it should void the warranty. No company should be held liable if you chain smoke in front of your computer 24/7 and it causes damage.

I admit I have seen more gross things than a machine covered in 2nd hand smoke during my time as a repair tech, but it is up there and it is pretty damn gross.

That is why I always tell everyone I know, if you smoke, smoke outside. Not only will it damage your electronics but it also gets in your furniture, and soak into the walls and damage your home.

I could care less if you smoke, that is your personal choice, but it does damage electronics so I recommend you do not smoke around them. If you must, do it in extreme moderation.

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Jet

Hah! Mac haters you all.

Why in the world do coffee cups have "Warning, may be hot" on the side? It's for those silly people who sue for silly reasons.

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Bodaggit23

Yes, we've all heard about your extensive computer experience. Practically every time you post.

Anyway, I am a smoker and I sit right in front of my computer and smoke, and I always have.

You're exaggerating a bit here. You make it sound like tar drips off the board.

Maintenance is the key here. I blow out my machines every month, whether they need it or not.

How about someone that has pets and never blows their machine out? Pet hair also causes fans to cease running, and overheating.

Should their warranty be void also?

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tlarkin

http://www.squidoo.com/cigarette-smoke-computer-damage

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Pets can also be a problem. You are right about maintaining it clean. The problem is, I know smokers that don't pop their cases open and clean them out. I have nothing against smoking as I will have a smoke from time to time myself, but I never smoke inside my own home. It just does too much damage.

My mom bought a house a long time ago and the people she bought it from were smokers. Every time you took a shower in the upstairs bathroom, and the walls got covered in moisture there would be lines and marks of tar all over. The tar actually soaked into the wood itself and would resurface. We scrubbed that house down clean, stripped it down and even replaced some of the drywall in certain areas and you could still see tar forming around the vents whenever the air got moist in that bathroom. You could still smell it too. It is obvious smoke does cause damage to things over time.

I have seen some nasty computers. Now, I always did the work on them. I think that a lot of times the Apple employees are lazy, at least that is what I get from listening to the people I know that work at Apple stores and the people I have worked with that used to work at Apple stores. I think they are just being cry babies.

However, smoke does in fact cause damage, and even if you clean it out a lot the tar will eventually build up. The dust can be blown out with a can of air, but once it starts to build up tar you would have to physically scrub it.

I used to take pics of them and put them on the company server for documentation of how nasty the machine was when it came in. This is not exclusive to any brand, or electronic as I have seen some nasty ass TVs come through the shop too that had smoke damage done to them.

unrelated, but awesome pic:

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