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NyRoN · 07-10-2005, 06:11 AM

why don't you just go all out and go with the LCD

NyRoN · 07-10-2005, 06:12 AM

but you need to find an LCD that goes below 8ms...then you'll be all set

**Praetor** · 07-10-2005, 06:58 AM

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i think the 939 ASUS performs better than that DFI..

too bad it doesnt.

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should i get an lcd or crt?

new topic = new thread... keeps things clean

@shiwen
1. whats the system used for?
2. you can get the logitech z-640 5.1 speakers for cheaper
3. other ram you might want to consider are the OCZ vx and mushkin redline series
4. id avoid lg for optical drives, some ideas at CD/DVD 101.

Shiwen · 07-10-2005, 07:23 AM

lol...i am only 15 years old.And I have changed the case, thrown out the separate psu, and chosen a 8ms lcd, got the mx-518 and elite kb, changed the speakers. The psu in the case is 400W. Is this enough for my rig? Australian dollars remember

Part Cost Company

CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 939 $255.00 msy.com.au

HDD: Seagate Barracuda 120Gb 7200 8Mb cache SATA Hard Disk $105.00 msy.com.au

VGA: Leadtek 6600GT 128MB SLI $270.00 msy.com.au

Ram: G.Skill F1-4800DSU2-1GBFR 1GB (2x512MB) PC4800 Samsung TCCD $355.00 pccasegear.com.au

Motherboard: DFI LanParty UT nF4 ULTRA D $215.00 pccasegear.com.au

Case: R201 Case $129.00 pccasegear.com.au

Keyboard: Logitech Elite $54.00 centre.net.au

Mouse: Logitech MX-518 $70.00 citysoftware.com.au

Monitor: LCD-BenQ-17" FP71E+ Silver 8ms $330.00 custo.com.au

DVD: LG GSA-4163BBK Dual Layer 16x DVD+R/-R/RW/RAM/DL Writer BLACK $72.00 msy.com.au

Floppy: 1.44Mb Floppy Disk Drive $16.10 Centre Com

Speakers: LOGITECH Z-640 $99.00 cworld.com.au

Total: $1970.10

EDIT: I can't find any ocz on the net in australia. I twill be for work but gaming as well. I'll search around for something non-lg then. btw whats wrong with lg?

**Praetor** · 07-10-2005, 07:27 AM

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, and chosen a 8ms lcd

1. if you dont need/want a lcd then dont jump on the bandwagon to get one
2. you only need the low timings of that lcd if yer into gaming (even then you gotta consider the videocard+native resolution etc)... which is why i aksed what the intention was

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got the mx-518 and elite kb

very nice setup

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the PSU in the case is 400w. is this enough for my rig?

i have a quick PSU 101 here but the just of it is "the wattage doesnt matter if the power is being delivered on the wrong rail"

i wont mention again but i'd seriously advise you avoid lg for opticak drives. CD/DVD 101.

Shiwen · 07-10-2005, 07:42 AM

Ok, I can't find any ocz ram on the net in australia. The pc will be for work as well gaming.
And I have chosen the NEC, which was listed second on your dvd writers list. By the way, what's wrong with lg?

Part Cost Company

CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 939 $255.00 msy.com.au

HDD: Seagate Barracuda 120Gb 7200 8Mb cache SATA Hard Disk $105.00 msy.com.au

VGA: Leadtek 6600GT 128MB SLI $270.00 msy.com.au

Ram: G.Skill F1-4800DSU2-1GBFR 1GB (2x512MB) PC4800 Samsung TCCD $355.00 pccasegear.com.au

Motherboard: DFI LanParty UT nF4 ULTRA D $215.00 pccasegear.com.au

Case: R201 Case $129.00 pccasegear.com.au

Keyboard: Logitech Elite $54.00 centre.net.au

Mouse: Logitech MX-518 $70.00 citysoftware.com.au

Monitor: LCD-BenQ-17" FP71E+ Silver 8ms $330.00 custo.com.au

DVD: NEC 3520A ND-3520A $103.00 scorptec.com.au

Floppy: 1.44Mb Floppy Disk Drive $16.10 Centre Com

Speakers: LOGITECH Z-640 $99.00 cworld.com.au

Total: $2001.10

**Praetor** · 07-10-2005, 07:44 AM

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Ok, I can't find any ocz ram on the net in australia. The pc will be for work as well gaming.

Whoa ... no OCz ram down-under??? Whoa. In either case your current RAM is pretty good.

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And I have chosen the NEC, which was listed second on your dvd writers list. By the way, what's wrong with lg?

LG drives have a lower than average lifespan as well as a less robust featureset

Shiwen · 07-10-2005, 07:47 AM

I did a quick search for ocz ram on staticice search...but maybe i didn't look hard enough...I'l go look again. Is ocz good overclocking ram? ANd is it better to get 1*1gig stick or 2*512mb sticks?

EDIT: ok, I found it.

OCZ EL DDR PC4000 Dual Channel Gold VX

It costs $22 australian dollars more. Is it worth changing to it?

Features of ocz ram:

* 500 MHz
* CL 2-3-3-8 at 2.6V(400MHz)
* CL 2-2-2-8 at 3.3V(500MHz)
* (CAS-TRCD-TRP-TRAS)
* Available in 1GB (2x512) Dual Channel Optimized Kit
* Unbuffered
* Gold Mirrored Copper Heatspreader
* Lifetime Warranty
* 3.3 Volts
* 184 Pin DIMM
* Optimized for Athlon 64 based motherboards

Features of G.Skill:

# Package : 1024MB kit (2x512MB) dual channel pack
# IC Spec : Samsung TCCD
# CAS Latency : 2.5-4-4-8 (PC4800) 2T
# Test Voltage : 2.7~2.9 V
# PCB Board : 6 Layers PCB
# Speed : DDR 600 MHz (PC4800)
# Type : 184-pin DDR SDRAM
# Error Checking : Non-ECC
# Registered/Unbuffered : Unbuffered
# Quality Control : Comprehensively tested in pairs in a dual channel environment
# Warranty : Lifetime

**Praetor** · 07-10-2005, 07:53 AM

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is OCZ good overclocking ram?

have a look at OC 101 and RAM 101
OCz make all sorts of ram from their low end value stuff to their fancy 3200 stuff and their new VX stuff (which is what i suggeseted). If you want to get VX make sure you get active cooling for your RAM (which means essentially a simple fan)

Shiwen · 07-10-2005, 08:22 AM

Could you tell if its worth getting the ocz...the specs are in my above post

07-10-2005, 06:11 AM	#11 (permalink)
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07-10-2005, 06:12 AM	#12 (permalink)
NyRoN Silver Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Guyana Age: 18 Posts: 112	but you need to find an LCD that goes below 8ms...then you'll be all set __________________ Gateway 5200XL P4 530 3Ghz Intel 915G 512MB DDR400 200Gb S-ATA DVD+-RW DL Ati Radeon X300SE :(

07-10-2005, 07:23 AM	#14 (permalink)
Shiwen Silver Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 185	lol...i am only 15 years old.And I have changed the case, thrown out the separate psu, and chosen a 8ms lcd, got the mx-518 and elite kb, changed the speakers. The psu in the case is 400W. Is this enough for my rig? Australian dollars remember Part Cost Company CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 939 $255.00 msy.com.au HDD: Seagate Barracuda 120Gb 7200 8Mb cache SATA Hard Disk $105.00 msy.com.au VGA: Leadtek 6600GT 128MB SLI $270.00 msy.com.au Ram: G.Skill F1-4800DSU2-1GBFR 1GB (2x512MB) PC4800 Samsung TCCD $355.00 pccasegear.com.au Motherboard: DFI LanParty UT nF4 ULTRA D $215.00 pccasegear.com.au Case: R201 Case $129.00 pccasegear.com.au Keyboard: Logitech Elite $54.00 centre.net.au Mouse: Logitech MX-518 $70.00 citysoftware.com.au Monitor: LCD-BenQ-17" FP71E+ Silver 8ms $330.00 custo.com.au DVD: LG GSA-4163BBK Dual Layer 16x DVD+R/-R/RW/RAM/DL Writer BLACK $72.00 msy.com.au Floppy: 1.44Mb Floppy Disk Drive $16.10 Centre Com Speakers: LOGITECH Z-640 $99.00 cworld.com.au Total: $1970.10 EDIT: I can't find any ocz on the net in australia. I twill be for work but gaming as well. I'll search around for something non-lg then. btw whats wrong with lg? Last edited by Shiwen; 07-10-2005 at 07:27 AM.

07-10-2005, 07:47 AM	#18 (permalink)
Shiwen Silver Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 185	I did a quick search for ocz ram on staticice search...but maybe i didn't look hard enough...I'l go look again. Is ocz good overclocking ram? ANd is it better to get 11gig stick or 2512mb sticks? EDIT: ok, I found it. OCZ EL DDR PC4000 Dual Channel Gold VX It costs $22 australian dollars more. Is it worth changing to it? Features of ocz ram: * 500 MHz * CL 2-3-3-8 at 2.6V(400MHz) * CL 2-2-2-8 at 3.3V(500MHz) * (CAS-TRCD-TRP-TRAS) * Available in 1GB (2x512) Dual Channel Optimized Kit * Unbuffered * Gold Mirrored Copper Heatspreader * Lifetime Warranty * 3.3 Volts * 184 Pin DIMM * Optimized for Athlon 64 based motherboards Features of G.Skill: # Package : 1024MB kit (2x512MB) dual channel pack # IC Spec : Samsung TCCD # CAS Latency : 2.5-4-4-8 (PC4800) 2T # Test Voltage : 2.7~2.9 V # PCB Board : 6 Layers PCB # Speed : DDR 600 MHz (PC4800) # Type : 184-pin DDR SDRAM # Error Checking : Non-ECC # Registered/Unbuffered : Unbuffered # Quality Control : Comprehensively tested in pairs in a dual channel environment # Warranty : Lifetime Last edited by Shiwen; 07-10-2005 at 07:53 AM.

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07-10-2005, 07:42 AM	#16 (permalink)
Shiwen Silver Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 185	Ok, I can't find any ocz ram on the net in australia. The pc will be for work as well gaming. And I have chosen the NEC, which was listed second on your dvd writers list. By the way, what's wrong with lg? Part Cost Company CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 939 $255.00 msy.com.au HDD: Seagate Barracuda 120Gb 7200 8Mb cache SATA Hard Disk $105.00 msy.com.au VGA: Leadtek 6600GT 128MB SLI $270.00 msy.com.au Ram: G.Skill F1-4800DSU2-1GBFR 1GB (2x512MB) PC4800 Samsung TCCD $355.00 pccasegear.com.au Motherboard: DFI LanParty UT nF4 ULTRA D $215.00 pccasegear.com.au Case: R201 Case $129.00 pccasegear.com.au Keyboard: Logitech Elite $54.00 centre.net.au Mouse: Logitech MX-518 $70.00 citysoftware.com.au Monitor: LCD-BenQ-17" FP71E+ Silver 8ms $330.00 custo.com.au DVD: NEC 3520A ND-3520A $103.00 scorptec.com.au Floppy: 1.44Mb Floppy Disk Drive $16.10 Centre Com Speakers: LOGITECH Z-640 $99.00 cworld.com.au Total: $2001.10

07-10-2005, 08:22 AM	#20 (permalink)
Shiwen Silver Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 185	Could you tell if its worth getting the ocz...the specs are in my above post