Proper cooling

lynx6200 · 07-13-2005, 03:58 PM

System specs are below, it's an AMD 3400+ and I get temp readings of about 43c idle, around 48-51 on a small load (playing music and such), and 55-60 something on heavier loads, games and such.

These temps are a bit warm as Ive seen people say, and i would like to bring them down without investing a lot money in more equipment.

Im using 1 80mm fan on the side panel for exhaust, and two 80mm fans at the back of the cpu (under the psu) for intake. The psu also has a fan, but I thinks its specificly for that, and blows into the case. If you think this setup should could be changed around at all to make a difference, please let me know.

**jancz3rt** · 07-13-2005, 05:08 PM

There are some things I would worry about:

1. Temperature of the CPU (Too high for an Athlon 64).
2. Maybe a badly applied HSF?
3. Direction of the airflow within the case. I woud have it like this:
4. I am worried abot the direction the PSU is blowing. It should really be taking air out of the case and not blow it in.

------------------ front of the case
E-----------------
E-----------------
----- I------------
------------------
------------------
------------------
-----------------I
------------------

I = intake
E =exhaust

JAN

**apj101** · 07-13-2005, 06:11 PM

maybe condsider upping those fans to 120mm if you case will support them.

tweaker · 07-13-2005, 06:17 PM

Yeah start with flipping all your fans, also what is you ambient room temp & make of HSF?

lynx6200 · 07-13-2005, 06:25 PM

Im not positive about the psu fan blowing outwards, but it is this one, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817189003
and the fan is on the bottom.

I think I will change the two fans on the back of the case to exhaust like jancz recommended (i can't fit a 180mm fan), and the middle, side fan for intake, and buy another for intake on the front, do you guys reccomend any fans to fit on front in the case in the 5 1/2 in. or 3 1/2 in. drive bays?

I could try a new heatsink if you reccomend on, Im just using the stock one, socket 939.

Thanks

Edit: Its the middle of summer in DC, so it gets pretty hot, im sure that doesnt help, but the AC is usauly on, and my room is probably around 75 -85 F most of the time.

jjsevdt · 07-13-2005, 06:33 PM

If you want it cooler, are you willing to try a liquid cooling system?

lynx6200 · 07-13-2005, 06:39 PM

Well, i would, but dont know anything about liquid cooling, and like i mentioned, id like to keep my budget low.

**dragon2309** · 07-13-2005, 07:22 PM

good cooling at a respectable price eh??? sounds like a job for copper heat pipe to me, do some research on it and post back

lynx6200 · 07-13-2005, 08:18 PM

I checked out what you mentioned dragon, and that looks kind of interesting, but bulky, and would be about $50, dont know if it would fit in my case. Otherwise, I found this link, with a bunch of spu cooler for socket 939, but not having any expertise on the stuff, or even knowledge that these would be any better than the stock cooler I have now, I thought maybe I could get some recomendations on what people think.

Thanks guys.

j0hn00 · 07-14-2005, 03:54 PM

If you're looking into something with heatpipes, then check out Thermalright.

http://www.thermalright.com

Zalman's coolers would be a good alternative too.

http://www.zalmanusa.com

07-13-2005, 03:58 PM	#1 (permalink)
lynx6200 Platinum Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NC Age: 26 Posts: 791	Propper cooling System specs are below, it's an AMD 3400+ and I get temp readings of about 43c idle, around 48-51 on a small load (playing music and such), and 55-60 something on heavier loads, games and such. These temps are a bit warm as Ive seen people say, and i would like to bring them down without investing a lot money in more equipment. Im using 1 80mm fan on the side panel for exhaust, and two 80mm fans at the back of the cpu (under the psu) for intake. The psu also has a fan, but I thinks its specificly for that, and blows into the case. If you think this setup should could be changed around at all to make a difference, please let me know. __________________ [size=2][size=1][color=DarkGreen][color=Navy] CoolerMaster Case Asus A8N SLI- Deluxe AMD athlon 64 3400+ 1GB Ultra DDR ram XFX 7600 GT 256mb videe 230GB SATA HD Combo drive Last edited by lynx6200; 07-13-2005 at 04:14 PM.

07-13-2005, 05:08 PM	#2 (permalink)
jancz3rt Moderator - F@H Guru Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Czech Republic Age: 23 Posts: 4,009	Hey There are some things I would worry about: 1. Temperature of the CPU (Too high for an Athlon 64). 2. Maybe a badly applied HSF? 3. Direction of the airflow within the case. I woud have it like this: 4. I am worried abot the direction the PSU is blowing. It should really be taking air out of the case and not blow it in. ------------------ front of the case E----------------- E----------------- ----- I------------ ------------------ ------------------ ------------------ -----------------I ------------------ I = intake E =exhaust JAN __________________ A64 3700+ @ 2.65Ghz ::: 7300GT @ 600/1500 ::: 2GB RAM @ 440Mhz www.CZ3RT.com ::: FOLDING FOR THE GOOD OF MANKIND ::: F@H Team 44358 Last edited by jancz3rt; 07-13-2005 at 05:11 PM.

07-13-2005, 06:11 PM	#3 (permalink)
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07-13-2005, 06:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
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07-13-2005, 06:25 PM	#5 (permalink)
lynx6200 Platinum Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NC Age: 26 Posts: 791	Im not positive about the psu fan blowing outwards, but it is this one, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817189003 and the fan is on the bottom. I think I will change the two fans on the back of the case to exhaust like jancz recommended (i can't fit a 180mm fan), and the middle, side fan for intake, and buy another for intake on the front, do you guys reccomend any fans to fit on front in the case in the 5 1/2 in. or 3 1/2 in. drive bays? I could try a new heatsink if you reccomend on, Im just using the stock one, socket 939. Thanks Edit: Its the middle of summer in DC, so it gets pretty hot, im sure that doesnt help, but the AC is usauly on, and my room is probably around 75 -85 F most of the time. __________________ [size=2][size=1][color=DarkGreen][color=Navy] CoolerMaster Case Asus A8N SLI- Deluxe AMD athlon 64 3400+ 1GB Ultra DDR ram XFX 7600 GT 256mb videe 230GB SATA HD Combo drive Last edited by lynx6200; 07-13-2005 at 06:27 PM.

07-13-2005, 06:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
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07-13-2005, 06:39 PM	#7 (permalink)
lynx6200 Platinum Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NC Age: 26 Posts: 791	Well, i would, but dont know anything about liquid cooling, and like i mentioned, id like to keep my budget low. __________________ [size=2][size=1][color=DarkGreen][color=Navy] CoolerMaster Case Asus A8N SLI- Deluxe AMD athlon 64 3400+ 1GB Ultra DDR ram XFX 7600 GT 256mb videe 230GB SATA HD Combo drive

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07-13-2005, 08:18 PM	#9 (permalink)
lynx6200 Platinum Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NC Age: 26 Posts: 791	I checked out what you mentioned dragon, and that looks kind of interesting, but bulky, and would be about $50, dont know if it would fit in my case. Otherwise, I found this link, with a bunch of spu cooler for socket 939, but not having any expertise on the stuff, or even knowledge that these would be any better than the stock cooler I have now, I thought maybe I could get some recomendations on what people think. Thanks guys. __________________ [size=2][size=1][color=DarkGreen][color=Navy] CoolerMaster Case Asus A8N SLI- Deluxe AMD athlon 64 3400+ 1GB Ultra DDR ram XFX 7600 GT 256mb videe 230GB SATA HD Combo drive

07-14-2005, 03:54 PM	#10 (permalink)
j0hn00 Gold Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 324	If you're looking into something with heatpipes, then check out Thermalright. http://www.thermalright.com Zalman's coolers would be a good alternative too. http://www.zalmanusa.com

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