I'll give it a try... first build... help selecting parts...

SonnieP · 07-16-2005, 08:52 AM

I think I'm ready to build. I've put together what I think I'd like in a system but want to make sure I'm not missing out on anything or forgetting something. Suggestions, advice, comments, (good or bad) are welcome and appreciated. Don't let me mess up.... PLEASE!

This system will be used for piddling... fun... I don't do games but who knows, I might try a game or two. I've been through the game phase a couple of times and got hooked (wife can't stand me with my game mode on). More than likely this will be an experiment build computer for show. I'm trying to keep this under $1000 without the monitor... I'll decide on the monitor later although Dell has there digital 19" ultrasharp flat panel at $299 shipped (with coupons)... very nice monitor (I have one).

So... here we go... (all prices are rounded up to nearest dollar)... (all descriptions are linked to Newegg for more info)...

RAIDMAX Astro ATX-268WB Black Computer Case With Side Panel Window - Retail $30

XG PSVG-500 500W Power Supply - Retail $49

Raidmax Blue Sound Activated Cold Cathod Light, Model YF-630B - Retail $11

GIGABYTE GA-K8NF-9 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail $98

AMD Athlon 64 3000+ 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Processor - Retail $146

CORSAIR XMS 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Dual Channel Kit System Memory - Retail $122

Western Digital Raptor 74GB 3.5" Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM $166

NEC Silver IDE DVD Burner Model ND-3540A - OEM $44

GIGABYTE GV-RX30128D RADEON X300 128MB DDR PCI Express X16 Video Card - Retail $65

COOLMAX 18-Inch, SATA ( SERIAL ATA 150 ) Cable, 2-Head, BLUE - OEM $4

COOLER MASTER IDE Blue UV Clear Round Cable - Retail $6

Scythe 2-Tone Wired Keyboard - Retail $5

Total cost shipped = $800

Notes:

The Raidmax case (which I really like) and silver Nec DVD burner are out of stock so I may have to change these or go elsewhere to buy these if Newegg does not stock them within a reasonable time.

I have not included mouse (probably Logitech's MX-1000 @ $55 from ZipZoomFly), floppy (not sure if I want/need one yet + hard to find true silver color), media reader/display panel (looking at the Logisys combo panel). I really haven't decided on these yet, however I have ~$200 to spare for these items as of right now.

**apj101** · 07-16-2005, 11:54 AM

That psu only has 19amps on the 12v rail, not too good. Try reading psu101
PSU 101

not too sure about the need for all the extra cables, most of the time the case/mobo/sata/ide devices would come with all the cables you need

SonnieP · 07-16-2005, 05:47 PM

10/4... I'll check out the PSU 101 thread and see what I can learn.

The extra cables are more for show... round and colored. Not a necessity but a possible desire.

XHotxEx791 · 07-17-2005, 12:28 AM

AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice Socket 939 Processor-146
Arctic SIlver Premium Photosynthetic Silver Thermal Compound Arctic Silver 5-8
DFI LANPARTY nF4 SLI-DR Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX AMD Motherboard-208
OCZ Enhanced Latency 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Copper Heatspreader Model OCZ4001024ELDC-K-128
NEC Beige IDE DVD Burner Model ND-3520A BG-41
Microsoft Windows XP Home w/Service Pack 2-92
Mitsumi USB2.0 Digital Card Reader/Writer W/FD INTERNAL, Model FA404A/404M-20
eVGA 6600GT 128MB DDR3/PCI-E/TV-Out/Dual-DVI-169
Western Digital Raptor 74GB 3.5" Serial ATA150-166
ENERMAX Whisper II EG465P-VE FMA(24) ATX12V 460W Power Supply-76

Total $1054 + your $50case, lights,keyboard,satacabe = 1104
If you don't need the os, than your budget would be met, but $12 more. The retail mobo comes with all cables, but if you want round cables, than its your choice. Not sure if sata cable is INCLUDED so i added that too.

Seagate Barracuda 7200.8 ST3250823AS 250GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive-123
COOLER MASTER KHC-L91-U2 92mm Ball Cooling Fan/Heatsink-44
Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Gamer Edition-113

These last 3 items are something you might want to look into when you have more money.

StasysPC · 07-17-2005, 06:21 AM

If they don't get that case back in stock, check out Rosewill's R114A-BLK case. It looks similar and has decent airflow as well. Plus it has drive covers (including 3.5") so you don't have to worry about matching that floppy drive color

SonnieP · 07-17-2005, 07:15 AM

I'm not sure why I would step up to that MB... I don't need SLI and I don't need SATA II. Since I want round cables to spiff up my case the cables won't benefit me. Any particular reason I should spend over twice the amount of the Gigabyte board?

I don't want a beige DVD in a silver/black case. I'll assume you mean't silver though.

I have WinXP Pro so I'm set on OS.

I'll add the thermal compound... thanks.

I think I'd rather upgrade to this PS: XG VORTEC PSVO-500 ATX 500W Power Supply 115/230 V UL, FCC, UR, TUV, and NOM - Retail $82. 34AMP @ 12V. It has the nicer wire covers.

SonnieP · 07-17-2005, 07:21 AM

Thanks StasysPC... I really like that Rosewill case and I won't have to worry about if the silver matches silver with the DVD or Floppy/Media Panel.

Looks like it would be a safe bet to replace that power supply.

StasysPC · 07-17-2005, 02:28 PM

no prob... i use that case for several customers and all are very pleased

Modoman · 07-17-2005, 11:11 PM

that dfi board is not for the first time builder either... lots of options and little documentation. no need for all the fancy overclockers-dream options

SonnieP · 07-18-2005, 03:15 AM

Yeah... I'm gonna stick with the Gigabyte MB... from what I've read it's pretty painless for the installation.

07-16-2005, 08:52 AM	#1 (permalink)
SonnieP Silver Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: L. A. (Lower Alabama) Age: 46 Posts: 130	I'll give it a try... first build... help selecting parts... I think I'm ready to build. I've put together what I think I'd like in a system but want to make sure I'm not missing out on anything or forgetting something. Suggestions, advice, comments, (good or bad) are welcome and appreciated. Don't let me mess up.... PLEASE! This system will be used for piddling... fun... I don't do games but who knows, I might try a game or two. I've been through the game phase a couple of times and got hooked (wife can't stand me with my game mode on). More than likely this will be an experiment build computer for show. I'm trying to keep this under $1000 without the monitor... I'll decide on the monitor later although Dell has there digital 19" ultrasharp flat panel at $299 shipped (with coupons)... very nice monitor (I have one). So... here we go... (all prices are rounded up to nearest dollar)... (all descriptions are linked to Newegg for more info)... RAIDMAX Astro ATX-268WB Black Computer Case With Side Panel Window - Retail $30 XG PSVG-500 500W Power Supply - Retail $49 Raidmax Blue Sound Activated Cold Cathod Light, Model YF-630B - Retail $11 GIGABYTE GA-K8NF-9 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail $98 AMD Athlon 64 3000+ 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Processor - Retail $146 CORSAIR XMS 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Dual Channel Kit System Memory - Retail $122 Western Digital Raptor 74GB 3.5" Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM $166 NEC Silver IDE DVD Burner Model ND-3540A - OEM $44 GIGABYTE GV-RX30128D RADEON X300 128MB DDR PCI Express X16 Video Card - Retail $65 COOLMAX 18-Inch, SATA ( SERIAL ATA 150 ) Cable, 2-Head, BLUE - OEM $4 COOLER MASTER IDE Blue UV Clear Round Cable - Retail $6 Scythe 2-Tone Wired Keyboard - Retail $5 Total cost shipped = $800 Notes: The Raidmax case (which I really like) and silver Nec DVD burner are out of stock so I may have to change these or go elsewhere to buy these if Newegg does not stock them within a reasonable time. I have not included mouse (probably Logitech's MX-1000 @ $55 from ZipZoomFly), floppy (not sure if I want/need one yet + hard to find true silver color), media reader/display panel (looking at the Logisys combo panel). I really haven't decided on these yet, however I have ~$200 to spare for these items as of right now. __________________ ... SonnieP ... Cedar Creek Cinema Home Theater Shack ...

07-16-2005, 11:54 AM	#2 (permalink)
apj101 Administrator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London Age: 26 Posts: 9,052	That psu only has 19amps on the 12v rail, not too good. Try reading psu101 PSU 101 not too sure about the need for all the extra cables, most of the time the case/mobo/sata/ide devices would come with all the cables you need __________________ What did one snow man say to the other? can you smell carrot? The fight is won or lost far away from witnesses - behind the lines, in the gym, and out there on the road, long before I dance under those lights. How you do anything, is how you do everything!

07-16-2005, 05:47 PM	#3 (permalink)
SonnieP Silver Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: L. A. (Lower Alabama) Age: 46 Posts: 130	10/4... I'll check out the PSU 101 thread and see what I can learn. The extra cables are more for show... round and colored. Not a necessity but a possible desire. __________________ ... SonnieP ... Cedar Creek Cinema Home Theater Shack ...

07-17-2005, 12:28 AM	#4 (permalink)
XHotxEx791 Gold Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hawaii Age: 18 Posts: 318	AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice Socket 939 Processor-146 Arctic SIlver Premium Photosynthetic Silver Thermal Compound Arctic Silver 5-8 DFI LANPARTY nF4 SLI-DR Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX AMD Motherboard-208 OCZ Enhanced Latency 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Copper Heatspreader Model OCZ4001024ELDC-K-128 NEC Beige IDE DVD Burner Model ND-3520A BG-41 Microsoft Windows XP Home w/Service Pack 2-92 Mitsumi USB2.0 Digital Card Reader/Writer W/FD INTERNAL, Model FA404A/404M-20 eVGA 6600GT 128MB DDR3/PCI-E/TV-Out/Dual-DVI-169 Western Digital Raptor 74GB 3.5" Serial ATA150-166 ENERMAX Whisper II EG465P-VE FMA(24) ATX12V 460W Power Supply-76 Total $1054 + your $50case, lights,keyboard,satacabe = 1104 If you don't need the os, than your budget would be met, but $12 more. The retail mobo comes with all cables, but if you want round cables, than its your choice. Not sure if sata cable is INCLUDED so i added that too. Seagate Barracuda 7200.8 ST3250823AS 250GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive-123 COOLER MASTER KHC-L91-U2 92mm Ball Cooling Fan/Heatsink-44 Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Gamer Edition-113 These last 3 items are something you might want to look into when you have more money. __________________ damasta55r-computing.net tech-forums.net cnet gamespot computerforum.com (banned account)

07-17-2005, 06:21 AM	#5 (permalink)
StasysPC Bronze Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Murphy, VA Age: 20 Posts: 55	If they don't get that case back in stock, check out Rosewill's R114A-BLK case. It looks similar and has decent airflow as well. Plus it has drive covers (including 3.5") so you don't have to worry about matching that floppy drive color __________________ Stasys PC Power SE AMD Sempron 3100+ OC'ed to 2.4GHz 512 MB RAM FX5200 GPU 80 GB HDD Acer TravelMate 8104 intel Pentium M Sonoma 2GHz/Centrino 1 GB RAM X700 VPU 100 GB HDD

07-17-2005, 07:15 AM	#6 (permalink)
SonnieP Silver Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: L. A. (Lower Alabama) Age: 46 Posts: 130	I'm not sure why I would step up to that MB... I don't need SLI and I don't need SATA II. Since I want round cables to spiff up my case the cables won't benefit me. Any particular reason I should spend over twice the amount of the Gigabyte board? I don't want a beige DVD in a silver/black case. I'll assume you mean't silver though. I have WinXP Pro so I'm set on OS. I'll add the thermal compound... thanks. I think I'd rather upgrade to this PS: XG VORTEC PSVO-500 ATX 500W Power Supply 115/230 V UL, FCC, UR, TUV, and NOM - Retail $82. 34AMP @ 12V. It has the nicer wire covers. __________________ ... SonnieP ... Cedar Creek Cinema Home Theater Shack ...

07-17-2005, 07:21 AM	#7 (permalink)
SonnieP Silver Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: L. A. (Lower Alabama) Age: 46 Posts: 130	Thanks StasysPC... I really like that Rosewill case and I won't have to worry about if the silver matches silver with the DVD or Floppy/Media Panel. Looks like it would be a safe bet to replace that power supply. __________________ ... SonnieP ... Cedar Creek Cinema Home Theater Shack ... Last edited by SonnieP; 07-17-2005 at 07:28 AM.

07-17-2005, 02:28 PM	#8 (permalink)
StasysPC Bronze Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Murphy, VA Age: 20 Posts: 55	no prob... i use that case for several customers and all are very pleased __________________ Stasys PC Power SE AMD Sempron 3100+ OC'ed to 2.4GHz 512 MB RAM FX5200 GPU 80 GB HDD Acer TravelMate 8104 intel Pentium M Sonoma 2GHz/Centrino 1 GB RAM X700 VPU 100 GB HDD

07-17-2005, 11:11 PM	#9 (permalink)
Modoman Platinum Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 553	that dfi board is not for the first time builder either... lots of options and little documentation. no need for all the fancy overclockers-dream options __________________ X2 3800+ Toledo @ 2.0GHz w/ Zalman 9500 2GB OCZ DC EL Plat. 2-3-2-5 2T MSI K8N-Neo4 2 x WD 36GB SATA Raptors eVga 7800GT @ 470/1200 FSP AX500-A 500w

07-18-2005, 03:15 AM	#10 (permalink)
SonnieP Silver Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: L. A. (Lower Alabama) Age: 46 Posts: 130	Yeah... I'm gonna stick with the Gigabyte MB... from what I've read it's pretty painless for the installation. __________________ ... SonnieP ... Cedar Creek Cinema Home Theater Shack ...

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