Aleksey

Dell are only good computers if you wants something equivalent to P2, because at their advertising price they sell stuff that can't really do too good. For example, they give 128 MB shared RAM - not very good. Shouldyou try to do any modification - just to raise it to 256, the price jumps to twice as much.

HP on the other hand are very consistent. This summer I got a HP Notebook with 512 RAM 2.66 P4, 60GB HDD, and a 64MB vcard, for $1700. When I tried getting something similar on dell it ended up being over $2100.
I know many people hate HP's and Compaq's, but I think all they need is just a little customization, and they'll work fine, particularly Compaq's. They work best with AMD's 1800+ and 512RAM at least.

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zkiller

i disagree on what you say about dell. dell is a company where you get what you pay for, literally!

HP makes descent notebooks and the desktops are "ok" for a first tier company. however, in my honest opinion they aren't of very high quality (the desktops, that is).

compaq lukily was aquired (or did they merge) by HP and since has raised the bar to where HP stands. older compaq desktops were horrible and nearly impossible to work on. i haven't actually had the chance to a compaq notebook, so i really can't comment on that part of there product line.

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Rick G

Hey you forgot that wonderfull Dell support that comes straight from India

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zkiller

so? india has some of the most highly qualified IT professionals in the world! seriously...

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Lol! Yeah - India is pretty well off for Computer specialists.

I'd have to go for Dell - HP make nice Printers and Ok Scanners; but they should have stopped there!

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Willson13

Okay, I want a bottom line opinion on this. Which computer company would you suggest buying from? HP, Dell, Gateway, Mac?

SFR

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Originally Posted by Rick G Hey you forgot that wonderfull Dell support that comes straight from India

I have been buying dell computers for more than a few years.

I have bought 2 myself and my father is currently on his third.





I have needed technical support more than once on hardware and software issues(most recently I was having a problem with my media center)



I spent about 55 minutes the first time and an Indian lady was unable to help me. I was given the number of a media center technician from (I think) Australia and he was able to wrap up the issue within 45 minutes.



Lets be honest, in todays world, one and a half hours is NOT a long time for customer service.

I have nothing bad to say about Dell. You get a reliable machine with customers service - while you might not like the accent of the voice on the other end, the customer service - is still every good.





An acquaintance of mine who (way past his warranty) upgraded the bios on his notebook and fried the damn thing.



He sent the notebook in on a Thursday, they got the notebook on Friday, fixed it, and he got it back on Monday FREE of charge. (He might have had to pay shipping on the way to HP)





I personally have no qualms about either company. I love HP's servers and laser jets and Dell's workstations..

...yeah so I guess I just wasted my time with this post...



... hmmm I guess I should just press the Submit Reply button.

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5 mins. of customer support is too long in my opinion. i hate talking on the phone, especially to people i can't understand or who always leave me hanging while they go ask somone else for the answer. online forums are MUCH more helpful for me, or jsut searching Google or some other search engine. If my mom has a problem with her compaq, i am her customer support (along with forums and google).

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well that is how I ended up finding out about this forum originally...



but there are times when technical support is a must (I.E. I had a problem with a motherboard a few years back and it was still under warranty and I needed to get it replaced.... while Praetor is amazing.... Praetor cant send me a new MOBO.) I spent about an hour on the phone and everything was taken care of.


I guess the problem is.. our generation has no PATIENCE.


I am a poker player and there is what we call the THREE P's Power, position and PATIENCE. In my opinion the way to get what you want out of a situation usually revolves around PATIENCE. Acting too quickly etc...


With a little patience I am usually able to solve almost any problem I face.


With reguard to customer service... a little patience never hurt.... hopefully all of us will live 80+ years... Out of over 42 million minutes ... is 60 really that important? ... ... ... ....

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